There are bad debates. Then there are massacres. Then there's what happened to Tim Walz as he imploded all over the stage during his debate with JD Vance. 

We've written about the problems Kamala Harris has had with speaking, but Walz was just an utter mess. 

It started off badly, with Walz looking scared to death and like he didn't want to be there. 

Walz looks scared at the Presidential Debate - pic.twitter.com/p3jedg8dcP

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Walz spoke about October 7 and that Hamas terrorists massacred Israelis, and took "prisoners." No, Tim, they took hostages. Not prisoners as in opposing combatants; these were not combatants. Then he tripped over himself and confused Iran and Israel.

Tim Walz is off to a ROUGH start...

Why does he look so scared? pic.twitter.com/mctQFK5wvZ

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Vance was doing great. He even gave a brilliant fact-check of the moderators when they tried to fact-check him. He of course was right. Walz either lied or was ignorant about the CBP One App. 

Vance proved himself over and over again, and that former President Donald Trump made a great choice in picking him to help enunciate the message. 

But Walz didn't settle down. He continued to implode as the debate went on. He wasn't able to give any kind of a reasonable explanation for lying about being in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square massacre when he was actually in Nebraska at the time. He blamed being a "knucklehead" for his comment. Really not a selling point to voters: "Vote for me because I'm a knucklehead." 

The soundbite of the debate.

A knucklehead, indeed!

Thank you very much for the memes, tampon Tim. pic.twitter.com/ctjUW6qfiw

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But even as he was trying to get out from under the former lies, he said again he was in China during the "Democracy protests." But he wasn't. He didn't get there until August -- by which time the "protests" had been suppressed with the massacre in June 1989.

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Walz said a lot of strange things. But one of the strangest had to be when he claimed that he was "friends with school shooters."

"I've become friends with school shooters."

- Tim Walz pic.twitter.com/qPOuSUVXLn

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What the heck? I don't think he had any idea what he was saying half the time, he was so discombobulated. 

People couldn't believe it. 

"Did I say that?" pic.twitter.com/jgyh5R70g3

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But I think it's fair to say the Kamala people have to be tearing their hair out at this point after this performance. 

VP debates generally don't amount to much. When it goes this badly, now people have to be afraid of having such person in the second seat. 

He may have just finished off the campaign, showing how horrible Harris is at her first real decision.