During an interview broadcast on today’s edition of “Fox News Sunday,” Kellyanne Conway who was President-elect Donald Trump’s campaign manager, told host Chris Wallace that “the gravy train is about to have its wheels blown off” when Trump assumes the presidency.  Conway emphasized that shakeup will happen regardless of whom is appointed to key roles in the Trump administration.

Trump’s presidential Campaign was built around his outsider status. And Trump pledged to “drain the swamp” of Corruption. Some take the fact that Trump’s transition team includes familiar politicians like former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani and Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), along with some lobbyists to be entirely contrary.

Conway said Trump will stay true to his swamp-draining campaign promises. These people are talented and have done this before. You can’t just appoint novices, you have to have people who know what they’re doing:

Finally, the voters got what they wanted, what they’ve been begging for 30 years, which is give us the opportunity, give us a person who actually represents the outsider, non-Washington, business-experienced type of profile, somebody who goes to Washington owing nobody anything.

The gravy train is about to have its wheels blown off and its engine completely ripped from its bearings because there is just no reason to keep this consultant-lobbyist axis at such – a-x-i-s — at such a level where people feel like their interests are not being served.

You can Watch Conway defend the use of some insiders in the Trump Administration in the following video:

Transcript:

WALLACE:  But, Kellyanne, the leaders of the transition team that Mr. Trump has put together are all familiar politicians and the staff includes lobbyists who are weighing in on who is going to run the agencies that oversee the industries that those lobbyists represent.  Those are the folks that are going to drain the swamp?

CONWAY:  Yes, they are.  If they want to be part of the Trump administration, they are, Chris.

Look, these are people who are talented and have done this before. You can’t just appoint novices, you have to have people who know what they’re doing.  But at the same time moving forward, this is an administration that’s going to run very differently than typical Washington.

Finally, the voters got what they wanted, what they’ve been begging for for 30 years, which is give us the opportunity, give us a person who actually represents the outsider, non-Washington business experienced type of profile, somebody who goes to Washington owing nobody anything.

And I will tell you at the Trump campaign, none of us got rich off the Trump campaign, and I’m telling you that will continue into the way he runs his government.  The gravy train is about to have its wheels blown off and its engine completely ripped from its bearings because there is just no reason to keep this consultant lobbyist axis, at such a-x-i-s, at such a level where people feel like their interests are not being served.

Part of the rigged, corrupt system that he was giving voice to so often is the one we heard from voters.  They don’t appreciate all the organs and adjuncts of Washington, D.C. working against them.  This is an administration for the forgotten man and the forgotten woman.  Nobody thinks of lobbyists and consultants as the forgotten man and the forgotten woman.

Draining the swamp is an integral part of Trump’s Contract With the American Voter — his plan for the first hundred days of his presidency. The contract includes four items related to draining the swamp, or as Conway put it today, ending the corruption gravy train. First there are three things Trump’s contract says he will do on day one of his presidency:

• FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service;
• FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government;
• SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.

In addition, one of the 10 bills he will have introduced during the first 100 days is the Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. That legislation will enact new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.