President Donald Trump recently sat down for an interview with Laura Ingraham, and in an interesting turn, he received pushback on some of the policy ideas he espoused. That then made its way into the broader movement, with some larger Trump supporters expressing concern over what they heard.
When the topic of H-1 B visas came up, Ingraham and Trump butted heads, with the president insisting they were only being used to fill jobs Americans can't do.
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BREAKING: Laura Ingraham presses President Trump on H-1B visas:
— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) November 12, 2025
Trump: You have to bring in talent.
Ingraham: We have plenty of talented people here.
Trump: No you don’t. pic.twitter.com/E7bZ5PmVbV
TRUMP: Republicans have to talk about it, Laura.
INGRAHAM: And does that mean the H1-B thing will not be a big priority for your administration? Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.
TRUMP: I agree, but you also have to bring in talent.
INGRAHAM: But we have plenty of talented people here.
TRUMP: No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't
INGRAHAM: We don't have talented people here?
TRUMP: No, you don't have certain talents, and people have to learn. You can't take people off an unemployment line and say I'm going to put you into a factory where we're going to make missiles.
INGRAHAM: Why didn't we ever do that before, when you and I were growing up?
While Trump might be correct in some very niche areas, many would argue that H1-B workers are not the "best and brightest" from other countries, providing talent that America doesn't otherwise have. Rather, they are often low-experience, freshly degreed (from third-world universities) individuals who show up and learn on the job how to do things like low-level coding. There's also the question of abuse. Many fraud schemes have been busted over the years, and because the visa is tied to employment, employers hold leverage that allows them to demand more work for less pay from H1-B holders. Many testimonials exist of American workers actually being forced to train their own H1-B replacements.
Newly released gov't records show the vast majority of H-1Bs approvals are for entry & junior level jobs
— Ron Hira (@RonHira) September 25, 2025
83% at Wage Levels I & II
Way below market salaries
These jobs can and should be filled by unemployed & underemployed American graduates 👇👇👇https://t.co/QGNmXTXol1 pic.twitter.com/mqYjaZ1Rah
Many H1-B holders do not get to the U.S. on their own, either. An entire economy exists of foreign middlemen, especially in India, making a fortune off providing "talent" and then owning that "talent" through kickback schemes.
More evidence that the "best and brightest" #H1Bs are just lower-level participants in a jobs-for-kickbacks C-Suite auction of the careers earned by skilled American professionals.
— Neil Munro (@NeilMunroDC) October 26, 2025
For reasons, board members don't want to see the colossal economic losses.https://t.co/APg2WZ1JTr pic.twitter.com/W77RvVz8TL
Continuing, Trump also reiterated his support for allowing 600,000 Chinese students in on visas, claiming that half of America's universities would go out of business otherwise.
NOW - Trump says 600,000 Chinese students coming to the U.S. is a pro-MAGA stance because "you would have half the colleges in the United States go out of business... I know what MAGA wants better than anybody else." pic.twitter.com/uexYM3Xsgw
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) November 11, 2025
Notably, just one week before this interview, the DOJ arrested multiple Chinese students for conspiracy to smuggle biological materials into the United States. There have also been many prosecutions over the years related to espionage, and those are just the ones that have been caught. Private investigations, such as this one that was conducted at Stanford University, have uncovered disturbing allegations related to Chinese students spying and passing information back to the CCP.
That shouldn't surprise anyone. China is an authoritarian state, and has no incentive to allow any of its citizens to travel to the U.S. as students without getting something in return. That doesn't mean all Chinese students are committing espionage. On the contrary, you would expect most aren't due to the sheer practicalities at play, but the student visa program is used as a cover. When you flood universities with over half a million students from a single country, it gets a lot easier for the actual spies to hide in plain sight. Of course, putting all that aside, I'm not sure conservatives would be very upset with "half" of America's most liberal institutions closing because they can't farm Chinese money anymore.
Whatever you might think about these individual issues, they represent real schisms within the movement. How that plays out, we'll have to wait and see.
Editor’s Note: After more than 40 days of screwing Americans, a few Dems have finally caved. The Schumer Shutdown was never about principle—just inflicting pain for political points.
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