screengrab from https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1090657473218920448
The past few days have seen the mask of humanity ripped right off the rotting, animated corpse of the pro-abort movement.
This is the sequence of events. Virginia Delegate and devoted infanticide Kathy Tran testified in favor of her bill to remove virtually all restrictions on late term abortion. This is how she handled some questions about the bill, via my post WATCH. Virginia Abortion Bill Allows Abortion While Delivery Is Underway.
Virginia Democratic Del. Kathy Tran is the sponsor of The Repeal Act, which seeks to repeal restrictions on third-trimester abortions. The bill — which was tabled in committee this week — has the support of top Democrats in the state, including Gov. Ralph Northam.
The bill would remove a number of restrictions currently in place regarding late-term abortions, including doing away with the requirement that two other physicians certify a third-trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman’s death or impairment of her mental or physical health. The third trimester lasts until 40 weeks.
Todd Gilbert, the Republican House majority leader, questioned Tran about the bill during a hearing Monday. He asked Tran if a woman who has physical signs she is about to give birth could request an abortion if a physician said it could impair her “mental health.”
“Where it’s obvious that a woman is about to give birth. She has physical signs that she is about to give birth. Would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so-certified — she’s dilating,” he asked.
“Mr. Chairman, that would be … a decision that the doctor, the physician and the woman would make at that point,” Tran replied.
“I understand that,” Gilbert replied. “I’m asking if your bill allows that.”
Tran replied: “My bill would allow that, yes.”
Please note that this bill does not even mention babies with fatal birth defects or some kind of deformity which could limit their life. It is an abortion bill designed to remove all state interest from abortion.
Eliminates the requirement that an abortion in the second trimester of pregnancy and prior to the third trimester be performed in a hospital. The bill eliminates all the procedures and processes, including the performance of an ultrasound, required to effect a woman’s informed written consent to the performance of an abortion; however, the bill does not change the requirement that a woman’s informed written consent be first obtained. The bill eliminates the requirement that two other physicians certify that a third trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman’s death or impairment of her mental or physical health, as well as the need to find that any such impairment to the woman’s health would be substantial and irremediable. The bill also removes language classifying facilities that perform five or more first-trimester abortions per month as hospitals for the purpose of complying with regulations establishing minimum standards for hospitals.
Yesterday, Bill Kristol-endorsed “moderate” Democrat governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, was on the radio to defend the Democrats push for legalizing abortion up until the literal moment when the baby is born. Or so we thought. As it turned out, he was actually endorsing infanticide.
This is from my post Virginia’s Moderate Governor Admits Abortion Bill Allows Babies To Be Killed After Birth.
Virginia Democratic Del. Kathy Tran is the sponsor of The Repeal Act, which seeks to repeal restrictions on third-trimester abortions. The bill — which was tabled in committee this week — has the support of top Democrats in the state, including Gov. Ralph Northam.
The bill would remove a number of restrictions currently in place regarding late-term abortions, including doing away with the requirement that two other physicians certify a third-trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman’s death or impairment of her mental or physical health. The third trimester lasts until 40 weeks.
Todd Gilbert, the Republican House majority leader, questioned Tran about the bill during a hearing Monday. He asked Tran if a woman who has physical signs she is about to give birth could request an abortion if a physician said it could impair her “mental health.”
“Where it’s obvious that a woman is about to give birth. She has physical signs that she is about to give birth. Would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so-certified — she’s dilating,” he asked.
“Mr. Chairman, that would be … a decision that the doctor, the physician and the woman would make at that point,” Tran replied.
“I understand that,” Gilbert replied. “I’m asking if your bill allows that.”
Tran replied: “My bill would allow that, yes.”
Just when you thought things couldn’t bet worse, Virgina Governor Northam was on the radio and the subject of the bill came up.
VA gov on abortion this morning:
“If a mother is in labor…the infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians & mother" pic.twitter.com/cc15pVLjIQ
— Caleb Hull (@CalebJHull) January 30, 2019
HOST:…no exceptions. There was a very contentious committee hearing yesterday, when Fairfax County delegate Kathy Tran made her case for lifting restrictions on third trimester abortions as well as other restrictions now in place. And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion even as a woman is essentially dilating, ready to give birth, and she answered that it would permit an abortion at that stage of labor. Do you support her measure and explain her answer.
NORTHAM: I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for delgate Tran. But I will tell you, one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers or physicians and the mothers and fathers that are involved. When we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of the mother, with the consent of the physician. More than one physician, by the way. And its done in case where there may be severe deformities, where there may be a fetus that is non-viable.
So, in this particular example, if a mother is in labor I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.
So, I think this was really blown out of proportion, but again, we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions. We want the decisions to be made by the mothers and their providers and this is why, Julie, legislators, most of whom are men, by the way, shouldn’t be telling a woman what she should and shouldn’t be doing with her body.
HOST: And do you think multiple physicians should have to weigh in, as is currently required? She is trying to lift that requirement.
NORTHAM: Well, I think it is always good to get a second opinion, and for at least two providers to be involved in that decision because these decisions shouldn’t be taken lightly. So, I’d certainly support more than one provider.
Northam caught a lot of flak for that gaffe (you know, a gaffe is when a politician accidentally tells the truth) and sent this explanation out to his willing minions and flying monkeys in the press:
https://twitter.com/Susan_Hennessey/status/1090675061617508363
https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1090707530370768902
This, to be very kind and charitable, is a f***ing lie.
1. As stated above, this bill has zero to do with the medical condition of infants. It is solely about when a woman can choose to kill her kid.
2. The situations covered in Northam’s bullsh** explanation are already covered under hospital policies and they are not mentioned in the bill being discussed because they are not abortion. What Northam is referring to is clearly in the context of the question:
And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion even as a woman is essentially dilating, ready to give birth, and she answered that it would permit an abortion at that stage of labor. Do you support her measure and explain her answer.
Going back to Tran’s testimony, there is zero mention made of fetal abnormalities for good reason, they are not included in the bill.
3. Very, very few late term abortions involve babies with fatal birth defects. And for the record, the fact that a baby has a fatal birth defect is not grounds for killing it. This is a pro-abort myth which has been demolished by no less an authority than the pro-abortion Guttmacher institute:
Guess who refutes Gov. Northam's claims about "tragic" circumstances of most/all late abortions? Pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute. pic.twitter.com/hj6DFa5sK7
— Ed Whelan (@EdWhelanEPPC) January 30, 2019
4. Tran’s bill very clearly allows for a baby, any baby, to be killed right up until some point after it leaves the birth canal (I’d guess that you’d have to have cut the umbilical cord before it was no longer a fetus in NewSpeak). Northam obviously contemplates that if the baby was being birthed that it could be killed afterwards.
5. For once, President Trump doesn’t go too far:
https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1090770179255123969
And keep this in mind when you drop by The Bulwark, you know, where conservatism is conserved.
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1090806702050627584
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