Matt Walsh Interviews a Teammate of 'Transgender Swimmer' Lia Thomas and Delivers Stunning Revelations

“Transgender” swimmer Lia Thomas has become a hot topic over the last year as the biological male has dominated NCAA women’s swimming. That crescendoed after Thomas “won” the national championship in Atlanta, GA earlier in the year.


More recently, the swimmer gave an interview with Good Morning America, presenting a disturbing level of arrogance and narcissism. When you listen to Thomas speak, everything is about Thomas and what makes Thomas feel good. The existence of teammates might as well not factor in, and I’ve long imagined how that must make the women feel.

Well, we don’t have to imagine anymore. Matt Walsh secured an interview with one of Thomas’ teammates for his new documentary “What Is a Woman?” In it, the anonymous swimmer, whose appearance is hidden and voice is distorted to protect her identity, delivers stunning revelations about how far the university has gone to suppress any dissent.

The Daily Wire provides details.

“There was a lot of things we couldn’t talk about that was concerning,” the swimmer told Walsh.

The anonymous athlete explained that even basic concerns about the locker room were not brought up. If they were, she said, it was clear you’d be smeared as “transphobic.”

The woman mentions that Thomas still has male genitalia that is exposed in what should be a women’s locker room. But to be clear, even if surgery was performed to “remove” it, that would not change the biological reality of the situation. Self-mutilation does not turn a man into a woman.


Yet, one of the most stunning things the woman revealed is that UPenn, the university that this is all occurring at, actually brought in psychological help…for the women.

“If you even bring up the fact that Lia’s swimming might not be fair, you’re immediately shut down and called a hateful person, or transphobic,” she continued.

Walsh pressed, “But there’s never any conversation — the coach didn’t sit everyone down and acknowledge what everyone is upset about?”

“So, Penn actually brought in people high up in the athletic department to talk to us, like brought in someone from the LGBTQ center, they brought in someone from psychological services,” the female swimmer started.

That’s simply astonishing. Here, you have a biological man claiming to be a woman while being allowed to dominate women’s swimming at the collegiate level (and probably soon at the Olympics), and the university is like “Do you know who really needs psychological help here? The women on the team.”

And to be clear, the “help” offered wasn’t to take seriously the concerns of the female swimmers. Rather, according to the woman in the interview, it was to essentially beat them down into accepting what was happening. In fact, she goes on to say that nothing was up for discussion. It remains a “comply or get out” situation, where women are subjected to a biological man in the locker room, stealing their opportunities, but are told they are the problem.


“They’ve made it pretty clear, if you speak up about it, your life will be over in some way, you’ll be blasted all over the internet as a ‘transphobe,’ … you’ll never be able to get a job,” the teammate told Walsh.

Walsh promises a lot more in the actual documentary, so be sure to look out for more clips and reports on what else was said.

I’m blown away — and I mean that in the worst way possible — that women are being subjected to something like this simply to feed the narcissism of a biological male. This isn’t right, and I think most Americans know it isn’t right. Yet, they are too scared to speak up for fear of being called bigots. No doubt, the woman who gave this interview to Walsh will be identified soon, and her life will be made a living hell. We use the word “brave” far too often, but in this case, I think it applies.


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