Whatever CNN is paying Scott Jennings, it's not enough. On Wednesday evening, the conservative commentator found himself sitting at the table with writer and podcast host Toure, battling allegations that President Donald Trump is "shredding the Constitution." That discussion took place within the context of the role of the federal bureaucracy, which multiple left-wingers at the table insisted was to oppose the president's actions.

An observant person might be asking exactly what Trump has done to garner such an allegation, and Jennings, being the observant type, offered the chance for further explanation. Watch in awe as Touré and Alencia Johnson say one thing and then moments later insist they never said it while still saying it.

If you're confused, you're not the only one. Jennings should get hazard pay given the risk of him suffering brain damage from having to listen to these people.

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I spend most of my time repeating back to liberals their own words and ideas, only to have them - seconds later - deny ever saying them. It’s truly astonishing. This convo on @cnn 👀 pic.twitter.com/xVNSPOFbBN

— Scott Jennings (@ScottJenningsKY) February 27, 2025

TOURE: Can we be real for a moment that DOGE is not about cutting money, right? It's not about spending. It's about shrinking government so that it will be too small to stop Trump with whatever else is in his plan. 

JENNINGS: Why would the government stop Trump? Isn't he the head of the government? You're saying the government would be too small to stop Trump. If Trump's the president, why would the government, the bureaucry be actively trying to stop him? 

TOURE: Because he's shredding the Constitution...

JOHNSON: Because they want to uphold the Constitution...

TOURE: ...and creating an authoritarian dictatorship.

I could write an entire piece just on that exchange because it says so much about the left's view of government. Let's accept the ludicrous premise that Trump is "shredding the Constitution." He's not, and as you'll see momentarily, Toure and Johnson have no real examples to provide, but let's say it's true. Which part of the United States Constitution invests authority in the unelected federal bureaucracy to be the remedy to that? 

That is the question that cuts right to heart of the issue. It doesn't matter what hysterics someone like Toure proclaims about Trump, there is no constitutional role for the burearucy to bring correction to the President of the United States. Any matters of legality would be handled by the court system, not employees embedded deep in some government agency. That fact alone disqualifies Toure's argument. 

Continuing with the next part of the clip, we see Johnson reiterate the same argument and then something amazing happens. Jennings repeats their argument back them almost verbatim only for both to insist they didn't say that. 

JOHNSON: And no matter who was in office, I'm going to hold them accountable, but more importantly, I'm going to make sure the goverment is working for the American people.

(...)

JENNINGS: Both of the made an interesting point, which is that, you're view is that Trump is shredding the Constititon. I'd like to hear more about that, but it seems to me that you all both believe that the unelected part of our government, the federal bureaucracy has a responsiblity to resist the political leadership. Is that your view?

JOHNSON: That's not actually what we said...

TOURE: That's not at all what I said.

JOHNSON: We said they are upholding the Constititoin, the pirincipals for the Constititon, and at times that we have seen...

For clarification, that is what they said. Toure specifically cited the federal bureaucracy being used to "stop" what Trump wants to do as president, while Johnson reiterated the same point. There is no working difference between the word "resist," which Jennings used, and "stop" in this context, and it's laughable to see both scoff at what was an accurate description of their argument. 

Here's the best part of the entire exchange, though. As I've said countless times over the years, the easiest way to make left-wingers in the media melt is to not accept their premises. Jennings smartly challenges the base idea that Trump is "shredding the Constitution" by asking for examples. Pay attention to how dumbfounded Toure and Johnson are, with the former clearly having no idea what is constitutionally controlled by the White House. 

JENNINGS: How is Trump shredding the Constition?

JOHNSON: My God, uh, look at what, should we go through the list?

(Johnson turns and looks at Toure to save her) 

TOURE: I mean, seriously? Do we have to give you a civics lesson? That we've, we've put all the power in the executive branch. The legislative branch, the FBI, now we're in control of the military, silencing media. This is what you do in a dictatorship.

(Crosstalk)

JENNINGS: Are you suggesting that the president is not the commander in chief of the military?

TOURE: I'm suggesting that the president is going to put in charge somebody who is going to contravine the Constitution, and in some near point, this conversation will look very silly for you because it will be obvious. Right now, you're gaslighting, but when we get to actual rubber of the road, it will be clear.

JENNINGS: I'm interested in this conversation. He's going to put someone in charge who will contravine the Constitution? Like who? What do you mean by that? The president is in charge of the military, is he not? You said he's going to put someone in charge.

PHILLIP: I mean, the president is in charge of the military. That is how it works.

Trump has certainly not commandeered control of the legislative branch, as Toure claims. Still, he does control the FBI and military because that's exactly how our constitutional government works. This is a common theme among left-wingers. They take completely normal actions by Trump and spin them as gross power grabs that threaten democracy. It is Trump's job to control the FBI, the military, and every single bureaucratic agency. He is not "shredding the Constitution" by exerting power over those entities, and only a moron would suggest otherwise. 

I'm not sure what credentials Toure brings to the table, but it's an argument against credentialism. He is clearly out of his league when it comes to discussing even the basics of the United States government. He's lucky Abby Phillip was there to call a timeout and save him from the rhetorical decapitating Jennings was performing.