Donald Trump appeared on the Glenn Beck program Tuesday for a 40-minute interview to discuss voter fraud, the disastrous Biden-Harris Afghanistan withdrawal, and the threat of nuclear war. He also addressed the question on so many of our minds: who exactly is running the country, since Joe Biden is clearly mentally incapacitated and Kamala Harris is incompetent?

One thing is for sure, the former president said—it isn’t Old Joe:

"I think it's actually a committee of people, and they might not even know who the committee is. They may not even know themselves," Trump said, indicating a siloed and stratified shadow governance structure. "It's a group of people that are in different levels of D.C., and they surround a man [Biden] that  was not the most capable person. 

By the way, never was, but certainly not any more."

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Who's ACTUALLY the president right now? Biden and Harris are clearly not calling the shots. @realDonaldTrump tells me: "I think it's a COMMITTEE of people and they might not even know who the committee is. It's a group of people in different levels of DC." pic.twitter.com/LaWWYQHREI

— Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) October 15, 2024

Trump told Beck that it didn’t matter who the figurehead was, the “cabal” would use whoever they needed to cling to power.

Trump told Beck that even prior to President Joe Biden's unceremonious ouster as the party candidate, the 81-year-old Democrat was effectively little more than a figurehead for a "committee" of unnamed bureaucrats.

The Republican nominee told Beck that the same cabal operating around Biden will work to hold on to power via Kamala Harris, whom he called a "believer." His comments echo his new ally, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who recently criticized his old party for once again voting for an "apparatus" to run the state instead of an actual president.

He also said they’re a nasty bunch:

"It's a nasty government. It's a mean government. They weaponize government," said Trump. "It's interesting because the people aren't very smart — you know, the people on top."

While these figureheads are cognitively lackluster, Trump said that the people who surround them are alternatively "smart and they're vicious, and they're fascists and everything else you can be. It's a nasty group of people."

The question of who exactly is in charge is an important one as we face war in the Middle East and Ukraine, a pugnacious China, and persistent inflation. The worry for most thinking people is, if Joe Biden isn’t competent enough to run a reelection campaign and had to be forcibly shoved aside by his own supposed “allies,” how on earth is he fit to be commander in chief?

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Meanwhile, with every appearance by Kamala or her running mate, Tim "Great Walz of China," they embarrass themselves and prove that they’re not in charge and are in no way capable of leading the nation.

It’s high time we got rid of this behind-the-scenes “cabal” and put an actual leader in the Oval Office. 

Here’s the full interview: