Marble Halls & Silver Screens With Sarah Lee Ep. 92: The 'Juneteenth, Bo Burnham, and ScarJo's Shameful Sexiness' Edition

Scarlett Johansson would like the world to know that while she has made a lot of money looking sexy and fierce as Black Widow, she is not comfortable with it. Now. That she’s evolved.

Speaking about the character’s evolution, the actor said she was treated like “a piece of ass” at first.

“And Tony [Stark, played by Robert Downey Jr] even refers to her as something like that at one point. What does he say? ‘I want some’.

“Yeah, and at one point calls her a piece of meat and maybe at that time that actually felt like a compliment. You know what I mean?”

Look, I like ScarJo. She’s made some interesting films and I’m a big fan of the album she cut of Tom Waits’ songs. And I understand our industries are very different inasmuch as what gets you ahead in Hollywood is not really the same thing that gets you ahead in DC (although using sex is definitely a shared value).

But I get so nauseatingly tired of women who, once they’ve achieved the things they set out to do — often aggressively and with an ambition like a middle finger — then start preaching about the lessons they’ve learned along the way. Particularly about how they wouldn’t have shown their breasts quite as much if they only understood what being treated like a piece of meat meant.

I mean, really, spare us.

I’m guilty of “do as I say, not as I do” (I’m even guilty of it in today’s show — see if you can figure out where…), but claiming I engage in that kind of thing because I’ve evolved is a bridge too far. I engage in it because I’m human and, like ScarJo, prone to hypocrisy.

Just own it, girl.

I talk about it, of course. In a tired, lazy, Southern kind of way. And I offer my thoughts on “Bo Burnham: Inside” (loved it), as well as Juneteenth (which I hope becomes a flag-flying celebration the nation over. Thanks, Texas).

Tune in, won’t you?

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