Water Cooler 03/08/18 Open Thread; California There Is No Secession

Jeff Sessions To California: Secession Was Settled in 1865

The administration is ratcheting up the rhetoric and action with regard to California trying to be a rogue state. Attorney General Sessions fired the latest shot across the bow.


“I understand that we have a wide variety of political opinions out there on immigration. But the law is in the books and its purposes are clear and just,” Sessions said during a speech to the California Peace Officers’ Association in Sacramento on Wednesday.

“There is no nullification. There is no secession. Federal law is the supreme law of the land. I would invite any doubters to go to Gettysburg, to the tombstones of John C. Calhoun and Abraham Lincoln. This matter has been settled,”

–The Hill

Sessions and the DOJ are suing in federal court to block three of the  states sanctuary laws. These laws prevent employers from cooperating with the federal government enforcing immigration law, prevent California officials from providing information about incarcerated illegals to federal officers, and the last tries to set up California as regulator immigration enforcement.  An extreme take on state’s rights from a state that is usually using the federal government to bend other states to their perverse desires.

The DOJ’s line of reasoning for their lawsuit is violation of the supremacy clause of the constitution


The DOJ said the laws are invalid because they violate the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, which establishes that federal law generally takes precedence over state laws.

“The Supremacy Clause does not allow California to obstruct the United States’ ability to enforce laws that Congress has enacted or to take actions entrusted to it by the Constitution,” DOJ argued.

On Wednesday, Sessions argued that California’s laws are harmful to the state’s residents, and prevent law enforcement officers from doing their jobs.

–The Hill

The ongoing situation in California and the other sanctuary states underlines the hypocrisy of the left. In California’s case they have positively demonstrated they care nothing about labor rights, poverty or income inequality except maybe they really like income inequality and poverty because they let them feel good about themselves,  and the conditions of labor are only important when they are trying to put a business out of business.

California now has the highest poverty rate in the country, by and large by their wholesale importation unskilled labor that can’t work legally in the country.  If you live in California and you aren’t making money off these people, your political betters are using the states welfare system to steal from you and make money from them.


Overall these would not be problems. To a certain extent federalism is meant to allow for a little crazy. If the state wasn’t exporting them to the rest of the country it wouldn’t be a problem. Once here the illegals travel affecting the whole country. You can gripe about the President’s campaign statements all you want, but immigration is a federal issue, controlled at the federal level, expressly because it matters to the whole country, and one crazy state can damage the entire country.


Drink up That’s it for the Watercooler today. As always it’s an open thread


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