It is also time to stop funding terror, such as the Palestinians, Lebanon (Hezbulla) Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.

It´s time to let them blather away on distant shores without throwing away the US taxpayers money!

Doh!

De-funding the UN is something that is LONG overdue. Should have been done 20 years ago.

The UN is a vital component, as a customer base, of the most vital and entrepreneurial element in New York. What does Red State have against the Working Girls?

If there purpose was ever world peace, and there is no evidence that it ever was, its very clear that now its purpose is solely dedicated to the piecemill destruction of the world’s only superpower.

Everyone needs to go to work on their congressmen to push for this. Any representative that won’t vote for this should be seriously primaried in ’12.

With the new incoming 112th Congress, the new Republican chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee will be Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. Her efforts will be backed up by Rep. Kay Granger who will be the Chair of the House Appropriations subcommittee responsible for appropriating the money for the UN activities.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/incoming-chair-senate-foreign-relations

I don’t know much about these two ladies, but, if they are as tough as I have been reading they will be, it’s an excellent start. Rep. Ros-Lehtinen, according to the above article, recognizes the tremendous problems with North Korea, and their axis of evil partner Iran.

I wanted the UN gone when we were eating Freedom Fries in the run-up to the Iraq War. At that time we were behind on our payments to them. The O caught up with those back payments, and added to them. Hopefully Rep Granger will supply them with only enough funding to make a move to another country. I suggest the outer reaches of Siberia.

Giving them access to NYC office space is a rediculous subsidy. Let Hugo Chavez or Ghadaffi build these dirt-bags an office tower.

Are we not a charter member of the UN among five such nations? If any of five charter members were to leave, wouldn’t that dissolve the charter, and by default, dissolve the UN?

The UN is nothing but a liability to this nation, and with the possible exception of Korea, 50 years ago in its infancy, anything other than that? Somewhere along the line, its member nations got the idea that it can use the UN to dictate policy to other nations. I suggest we remind them who’s boss, and simply say, “You no longer have the power we gave you.”

With the one exception (international treaties approved by Congress), is the Consititution not the supreme law of the land?

What the hell is going on here?

The original goal of the UN, to prevent future wars by providing a common ground where international greivences could be discussed and negotiated, is still laudable. There was a time when the world was new and shiny that we all thought that the UN would bring about a future of worldwide peace and prosperity. Much as I dislike what the UN has (inevitably) become, I think we’re all diminished by the loss of that vision.

I say inevitably because the UN was flawed at its inception by notion that all nations deserve an equal vote has proven to be toxic; it’s hard to imagine anything as sadly laughable as a “democratic” body that represents democacies, dictatorships, thugs, and kleptocrats equally and is answerable to the people of the world only through the most tenuous of connections. Add to that fifty years of mission creep and the tendency of all bureaucracies to degenerate into an organism interested only in maintaining it’s own budget, and you have the nightmare we see today.

Given all that, I’d still like to see some sort of international body with a mission of maintaining international dialog and offering a means of international arbitration, rather than just washing our hands of the UN and walking away. Much as it pains me to say this, I think that John McCain’s idea of a league of democracies is a good starting point. The real challenge would be to structure in in such a way as to prevent it from turning into what the UN has become.

Time to defund the UN? Actually, it’s time we got OUT of the UN and told Donkey Moon and his merry band of kleptocrats to take their menagerie elsewhere.

And, anyone who would run in in 2012, with leaving the UN as a promise, would pick up a lot of independent voters.

The UN is not only the most worthless corrupt organizations but absolutely one of the most intentionally destructive organizations (to the U.S.) on the planet.

A top priority should first be COMPLETE defunding followed by full withdrawal.

We are sorry to inform the rest of the world, but the US is broke and cannot support the UN any longer.

Maybe the Chinese will take the UN building in trade for some of our debt? /sarc

the U.N. is looong overdue. It should be one of the first cuts made when Washington gets serious about the deficit!

Responding to a proposal in 1983 that the UN headquarters be moved out of New York:

“We will put no impediment in your way,” snapped Lichtenstein. “The members of the U.S. mission to the United Nations will be down at the dockside waving you a fond farewell as you sail off into the sunset.”

You know the one that keeps getting shelled. And put other UN stuff onto Taiwan/Taipei/Formosa.

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” –Alexander Hamilton

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(1) Incoming Chair of House Foreign Affairs Committee Wants to Isolate Enemies, Make U.N. Accountable
Thursday, December 09, 2010 By Patrick Goodenough
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/incoming-chair-senate-foreign-relations

‘Illustrating the scale of the change in tone expected from the Republican-controlled Congress when it comes to the U.N., Ros-Lehtinen earned a “C” rating this year from an advocacy group that promotes U.S. engagement with and support for the world body. The Democrat she is replacing at the helm of the committee, Rep. Howard Berman (Calif.), got an “A-plus.”’

On the Senate side, McConnell and Crapo should think about removing Lugar as ranking member of the Senate Committee.

(2) A Short United Nations To-Do List for the New Congress
November 18, 2010 By Brett Schaefer
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/11/A-Short-United-Nations-To-Do-List-for-the-New-Congress

I hope that those in the new Congress will have the courage to follow through and defund the joke that is the UN. It has been a long time coming.

Defunding and leaving the UN would not only be the right thing to do because it would be in America’s national interest, but it just might be the most politically popular action that the GOP could take. Conservatives and Independents would jump on this bandwagon. It might be as popular as actually building the Mexican fence.

Lovely weather for all the equetorial America haters.
It seams most of the countries that hate America are in the warmer climates.
It would make the Global Warmists, err.. Man made Climate Change enthusiasts
think twice.

And just think how much parking space it would leave the true New Yorkers.

…That ObamaCare 26 year-old ne’er do well is to Mum’s health plan. Time to kick his a$$ out on the street!

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On one hand I can definitely understand why you would say that we should just ditch the UN. The organization is involved with issues that it just has no business touching. Nation building is unnecessary and does not serve American interests. Economic aid should be handled through private organizations and not some centralized bureaucracy.

On the other hand it seems necessary to have some global body to tackle fundamentally global issues. The nuclear arms race is one obvious example; there are just too many players involved in modern times to rely only on bilateralism. Even if you sign bilateral agreements with a country like India, they are likely to be violated if third country Pakistan comes along and threatens India’s security. In other words there are issues where tolerance for even one large “cheating” nation is very low.

We could send the UN a bill for the office space and tell them our donations are now a cash contribution equivalence solely in the form of free parking at that location…

Ooooh! Could we just tell the UN we’re broke and will gladly pay them next Tuesday for a resolution today?

We’ve sent enough money down that rat hole. Defund and withdraw.

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Let’s eat, Grandma.

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Need I also remind anyone that the UN rates China as tops in the world for “family planning,” happily funding the policy via UNFPA.

We fund enough evil and incompetence in the US; we certainly don’t need to be funding any more outside our borders.

The monster either grows or dies and monsters do not die easly. The UN is feeding off the US and the only way we can stave it off is starving it. Alas, we may be too late, it may be large enough to consume us. BUT we should try.

It may sound silly, but we gave it to them in perpetuity. They are the enemy, so declare war, walk in, and help them pack.

in NYC. I say we take it away through eminent domain , give it to a big real estate developer (like Donald Trump). NYC could use the same excuse that was used in New London, CT.
The financial benefits that the city and state would reap would be astronomical ( jobs, real estate taxes) not to mention no more traffic gridlock when foreign leaders come into town. And that ends the thousands and thousands of dollars of traffic tickets that are never paid. We also get rid of the slimy diplomats that commit crimes and use diplomatic immunity to get out of being charged.
And that blasted building will no longer be a blight on the skyline of NYC.

It is my opinion that America should stop funding the United Nations and move them out of our country as most of them don’t like us anyway.

number of things, including most definitely the UN. But let’s add Obamacare and any part of the bureaucracy (EPA and FCC, for examples) that engages in end-arounds by issuing overbearing regulations. Excellent thread, btw, and thanks to Neil.

The UN is rotten to the core. It should be invited to leave the United States in favor of a new home. Those blood-sucking UN diplomats have been abusing our hospitality for decades.

Our share of UN expenses should only match the amount provided by the next higher donor nation.

When we had actual men in The CIA, the military, and sometimes even as politicians, we nearly got out in the fifties and early sixties. The wusses won with “It’s the only way we—blah blah blah”.
Logic is always lost on lefties, I can find no instance of the UN actually solving anything, certainly nothing to our benefit, just as I can find no socialist/democrat successful program. I really liked it better when you could smack a guy who disrespected your girlfriend and the cop said, maybe you shouldn’t hit him again. I am glad to be old, the wuss factor is — “shower with your boyfriend in the barracks”

of the UN that truly represents the people of the United States of America. Everyone should be able to vote on whether they want the UN to carry their position to the world. Then each of these whining, Liberal, Progressive Socialists should be assessed their proportion of the UN budget.

If they do not like that, then they can move to France, Cuba, or Iran where their representation in the United Nations is secured. It is a choice, people. I am all about freedom of choice.

Oh – and they give up their US passport when they move to Afghanistan or Russia or any of the countries where their boisterous assertions will be so unabashedly welcome.

The UN has been for several or … many, many … years, of very little use to the US of A and our concerns.

It has gotten our men and women of our armed forces thrown into harm’s way and then tied their hands preventing them from effectively doing their jobs and, in many cases even defending themselves.

The UN in general has become what seems to be a forum where some of the dregs of this world can come to Our Country and be supported in the lifestyle they choose and be protected by us … financially, morally and infrastructurally … while they rant and rave and castigate us and somehow make the world believe that we are the bad guys and they are the milk of human kindness.

The UN’s focus and movement have long since departed from any path that we should wish to be taking. It is well past time to revoke their lease. Revoke their mandate. Move them offshore somewhere and let them protect and provide for themselves.

Maybe Haiti could use their business?

But put it either in Detroit or on the Mexican border.

The UN real estate in NY is too valuable for such an organization.

The UN discussion is long and has a complex history. While I agree that the US investment is imbalanced and frustrating, I don’t think the answer is to completely defund and isolate ourselves from a forum of global discussion. Yes, it is sometimes fun to think about but ultimately not in the US best interest to not play fair in the eyes of the world.

I would suggest that the US should have an internal discussion on what we expect to get out of the UN, and adjust investment to achieve those goals. I also agree that the US should not feel obliged to financially support any UN program that does not directly support US interests.

“Consequence Management Response Force” and “Non-Traditional Missions” According to the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, on July 7, 1994, Larry Pratt, Director of Gun Owners of America, sent the following memo to Don McAlvany: “An actual copy of the questionnaire being administered on a Marine Base in 29 Palms, Ca. has come into our possession. It asks soldiers if they would obey U.N. officers and if they would confiscate firearms from American citizens and shoot those who resist. The latter point is corroborated by several Navy Seals who have personally reported that they have been asked the same questions. Congressman Bob Dornan has been asked to, and is considering launching a full scale investigation into the government using American (or U.N.) troops to disarm civilians.”

Under the heading, “Combat Arms Survey,” the questionnaire stated: “This questionnaire is to gather data concerning the attitudes of combat trained personnel with regards to non-traditional missions.” Two of the questions asked are:

(1) I would swear to the following code: ‘I am a United Nations fighting person. I serve in the forces which maintain world peace and every nation’s way of life, I am prepared to give my life in their defense.’

(2) The United States government declares a ban on the possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. A thirty (30) day amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over to the local authorities. At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to turn over their firearms. Consider the following statement:

`I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government.’

A press release from the Navy says, “The survey is an academic endeavor and does not reflect any government program, policy or initiative.” Sure and the earth is also flat, just ask the Navy.

Have any of you seen this? (Link to: http//:www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ltm3ZrRB8&feature=player_embedded ) I call this piece, “The Price of Freedom”. The price of freedom is never free. And yet, we, America, keep paying it. It’s evidently a thankless task, as it seems no one ever says “Thank You, America”. Not, anyway, anyone in charge of the government whose people we rescue from whatever tyranny or tragedy has befallen them. Whether in and/or external murderous oppression, or some devastating natural disaster, we as swiftly as possible answer their pleas, go in and try and set things aright. Our reward is to be disrespected in the United Nations, voted down at every opportunity and held up for ever more financial gifts masquerading as “Aid”. Adding insult to injury, whatever goods we send are usually relabeled with UN labels so the people who receive our largess are not even aware of the origin of the meager remnants of the UN pilfered aid we send. 

let’s talk about the funding the national arm of all of our social programs and departments. every department has a national base and every state has a redundant office . dismantle every department at the national level . let each state decide for itself what it wants to keep and what they are only keeping because of national requirements . this would not only save our country financially ,but also give back states there rights .

Speaking of how useless the UN is, the link below goes to a video about how China’s aid investment in Africa is frighteningly more effective than the West’s. The video is probably about 15-20 minutes long, but you don’t have to watch it. If you are interested, just listen while you are doing your other work.

Click here:
http://fhp.osd.mil/intlhealth/africomConf/index.jsp?videoID=26
And scroll halfway down the page.

The talk is titled “China in Africa.” It was presented by Dr. Lynn Lawry, Senior Health Stability/Humanitarian Assistance Specialist, US Department of Defense. It was given at AFRICOM’s Health Symposium in January 2009.