than to listen to someone for whom I have the deepest respect and affection say things like “there’s no chance of getting this thing repealed”.

When upwards of 70% of the electorate is opposed to an piece of legislation then there is NO EXCUSE for a member of the United Sates Senate to surrender without so much as a whimper.

Senator Hatch’s problem is that he is just too nice a guy to take on his “Liberal Friends” in the opposition party let alone his own party. Well if HE won’t take them on the electorate SHOULD take them on. If Barney Frank’s district can vote for Scott Brown then there is NO reason that we cannot purge the Congress of their most liberal members.

Unless the federal government is restored to it originally intended limited status this nation is doomed to become another Europe or worse.

The question was of repeal in the 111th Congress. This is important; this will be the congress under the (hopefully) lame duck Obama. In the 112th Congress, when we consolidate our majorities and throw this piece of Communist trash we call a president out of the White House, then repeal will be possible, and, I believe, probable.

back in the day when he had his runnin’ buddy, Wyoming’s Alan Simpson for support.

There is no “fight” to be had here. You need to override a presidential veto of any legislation you might pass, which would be impossible unless you had control of the house and the senate.

To override a veto requires a 2/3 vote in each house. Suffice to say, this cannot be repealed until there is a Republican president who will sign repeal legislation that is passed by a congress controlled by Republicans so they can bring the legislation to the floor for a vote. As long as Democrats control any one of those three things, repeal is not possible.

And that is not happening until at least 2013 if a Republican manages to oust Obama and Republicans also hold both houses of congress.

So Hatch was simply being realistic, I think that is what conservatives value most. And no, I’m no Hatch fan, being from Utah, but I’m very encouraged by how active he has been since he realized Bob Bennett was done. He’s acting like an adult, I appreciate that, aren’t you sick to death of all the damn spoiled children talking pie in the sky nonsense 24/7 in our current administration? Anyone talking like an adult these days is a breath of fresh air.