The ‘No Internet for you, FCC!’ Saturday Open Thread.


I'm partial to #2, myself.

Reason Hit & Run lays out three reasons why, nice and neat:

…and though I may agree most with #2 I also agree with the #1 & #3 reasons, too*.

Open thread.

Moe Lane*For those without video access, the 3 reasons why you shouldn’t trust the FCC with the Internet:

  1. There’s no actual need for them to regulate it.
  2. The FCC will just muck it up anyway.
  3. They FCC is mostly doing this to continue justifying their existence and expansion.

Crossposted to Moe Lane.


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Government interference

gfwarhol Saturday, June 19th at 11:57AM EST (link)

One huge reason the internet works as well as it does is because there has been little or no government involvement! The FCC will certainly screw it up.

 

Senate Republicans cave (again). Doc Fix kicked down the road (again).

SoFiMil (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 12:27PM EST (link)

This action by Senate Republicans is an endorsement of ObamaCare, and is unacceptable. When I heard this news, I actively checked to see who voted “Yes,” and learned there was *no* roll call vote.

“The doc fix, was approved without a roll-call vote after leaders of both parties agreed to pull it out of a stalled package of tax changes and safety-net spending.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/19/health/policy/19cong.html?src=mv

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No Rep. wants to run as "anti-doctor"

renny (Diary) Friday, June 25th at 10:08PM EST (link)

This ploy was a double whammy–the obots got to subtract the doc-fix from Obamanationcare as a :”savings” but of course it isn’t

and then they got to kick the Reps. in the -uts again if they didn’t vote to pay docs what Medicare promises, despite Medicare’s bankrupt state.

 
 

#3 Mission Creep

lukematthews (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 1:35PM EST (link)

is my most compelling argument against governmental control of the medium. The do-gooding, busybody nature of regulators is especially dangerous. They will ‘just’ regulate this and ‘just’ regulate that until they ‘just’ regulated us into submission. First, they will find a case of some kind of terrible indignity or crime, then they will create a solution for that problem. Once they get their dirty little hands on these problems, they will be loathe to restrain themselves from fixing everything and anything they perceive as troubling. Soon, some content will be perceived as morally repugnant and that content will be controlled. If the content is seen as a community menace, in other words, that which they don’t like, it will be banned.
Dangerous group of authoritarians.

RedState would be banned!

bs61 Sunday, June 20th at 12:11AM EST (link)

Can’t have the truth getting out to the masses.

 
 

Republican Governors Rising

texasgalt (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 10:06PM EST (link)

Republican Governors Rising

texasgalt (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 10:06PM EST (link)

Anybody partial to #3480 ?

Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 10:36PM EST (link)

That’s Senate Bill 3480 to be precise.

Senate Bill 3480 — Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010

A bill to amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and other laws to enhance the security and resiliency of the cyber and communications infrastructure of the United States.

Another agency (The Office Of Cyberspace Policy).

Director appointed by and reports directly to POTUS.

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If you haven’t realized it yet………….. A “National Emergency” to this administration and their owners means there’s still at least one patriotic Republican and/or Conservative typical bitter God-clinging gun owning tea-bagger remaining alive and/or out of prison/FEMA Camp.

Oops.....

Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, June 19th at 10:37PM EST (link)

Go to www.thomas.gov and use the search function for S3480.

 
 

FCC & Internet

jcincy Sunday, June 20th at 12:17AM EST (link)

The internet threatens Fedzilla. That’s the bottom line.

Information is power. Power hungry people both democrat and republican hate the scrutiny and the information that the internet provides to the ‘unwashed’ masses.

The political class prefers a quiet populace, not an educated and engaged populace.

Our schools systems have been dumbed down. Most of the major media outlets sleep very comfortably next to their mistresses in the political class.

The internet represents one our last few defenses against tyranny.

“Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” — John Jay

 

I hate the idea of the FCC getting involved

gearwonk Sunday, June 20th at 12:46AM EST (link)

with the internet, but remember – the reason we have so many laws about every little thing is because there are so many people (and companies) who are just too stupid to do the obvious right thing.

Some people would drive their cars at night with the headlights turned off because they can see well enough, not considering that drivers coming the other direction can’t see them – so we have to have a law about that.

Some restaurateurs don’t see the need to clean rat droppings off the kitchen counters – so we have to have a law about that.

In its present state, the only thing I see about the internet that needs policing are scam & spam artists, phishing for data, etc. Educated people will realize that lies look just as big in type as truth, and fools can’t be helped anyway.

 

Recovery Summer: Fannie and Freddie repo a home every 90 seconds

texasgalt (Diary) Sunday, June 20th at 1:22PM EST (link)

Good times are bustin’ out all over:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/nation/story/E744C01438F6DB698625774700815937?OpenDocument

Bank failures double last year:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/banking/2010-06-19-bank-failure-pace-tops-2009_N.htm

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Recovery Summer: Fannie and Freddie repo a home every 90 seconds

texasgalt (Diary) Sunday, June 20th at 1:22PM EST (link)

Good times are bustin’ out all over:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/nation/story/E744C01438F6DB698625774700815937?OpenDocument

Bank failures double last year:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/banking/2010-06-19-bank-failure-pace-tops-2009_N.htm

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Bill O'reilly is a punk!

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, June 25th at 8:41PM EST (link)

I just saw Geraldo (Jerry Rivers) own Billo over the Mchrystal fiasco. It is funny that a life long liberal and former freak show host knows more about war than the top ranked BS artist on tv.

Geraldo was trying to talk about how the Rolling Stone article affected the war effort; remember lives are on the line. Luffah, was at his smarmiest talking only about how smart he is and how our leaders of men should be more media savvy.

I want to pick a fight with anyone here who thinks Billo is a conservative and in any way someone of relevance. His I am smarter than everyone else act is sad because he actually means it, and doesn’t even find it amusing. Compare that to Rush, there is no comparison. Rush is smarter, funnier, and his act let’s us in, O’reilly is really just a pompous ass.

There may have been a day when Billo was considered conservative compared to the MSM. But he is really just a populist at best. If he has any conservative values, they are the worst of conservatism. He only cares about statism and making everyone act as he thinks they should. He does not believe in liberty, he believes in mimicry, mimicry of Luffah.

I guess it is good people watch him instead of hard left shows. At least that is one good thing he does. But his high ratings should not be considered a good sign for our cause. To me, the average Or’eilly viewer would have been the quintessential LBJ voter.

Molon Labe!

Doc, you seem to agree with me that McChrystal was derelict

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, June 25th at 8:53PM EST (link)

in his duty to the mission in his vain musings that he surely knew would get him fired

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Ordinarily, I'd say that a debate between O'Reilly

Flagstaff (Diary) Saturday, June 26th at 12:25AM EST (link)

and Geraldo is like one between Tweedledum and Tweedledee. Not that they’re dumb, but that they’re about even. I just re-viewed the segment–Doc, you are right, but not that Gerry “owned” BillO. Bill’s point was that Michael Hastings, the writer, intended to do what he did, which was to sandbag McChrystal and perhaps even to bring about his downfall. Gerry’s argument was that Hastings shouldn’t have done it even though he had the ammunition. That presupposes some degree of both patriotism and awareness on the part of Hastings.

Geraldo was on the side of the angels. Hastings should have self-censored
because of the effect he presumably knew the quotes would have, the firing of McChrystal. Bill was the cynic in this case. Hastings intended to get a sensational story, and he tried to do so, and he succeeded.

Then to cap it, Bill said that “Rolling Stone says it ran the quotes by (past) McChrystal. Do you believe that?” To which Geraldo replied, “…if they say they did… I assume that it’s true…. And I have to honor General McChrystal for not trying to sleaze away.” That’s an odd comment in itself, from a guy who moments earlier had said,

…that reporter knows that that statement [Joe Biteme], if it becomes public, has strategic significance, that the President would be forced to do what he did unless he was magnanimous beyond belief….

My point, Bill, is, when it is a strategic issue like that, something of that import to your country, dammit, then you have an obligation to say, “Was that on the record? Do you really want to say that?” You have to put it in context….

Two days before 9/11, two al Qaeda terrorists, posing as journalists, got up to Sheik Massoud, our most valuable ally in Afghanistan; they blew themselves and Sheik Massoud up, a tremendous setback. I maintain, historically, that the removal of General McChrystal at the hands of this free-lance reporter for Rolling Stone has almost comparable strategic significance…. This was a major deal…. To get a statement… like that, an utterance… by one of his over-eager, macho staffers, is something that you have… an honorable obligation to check out before you rush to the press, knowing that what you have done is removing a fine soldier who has risked his life for his country, time and time again.

I say it’s an odd comment, because after all the histrionics, Geraldo seems to say that McChrystal did something honorable by not censoring the direct quotes out of the story. Had he done so, there might not have been the blowup, and the tremendous “strategic” (to use Geralso’s word) setback we have just suffered in Afghanistan would have been avoided. What is “sleazy” (again Geraldo’s word) about that?

We agree that Geraldo is right about what Hastings should have done. But that is like saying the snake shouldn’t have bitten–it’s what snakes do, at least modern-day journalistic snakes that work for Rolling Stone.

I have another bone to pick with Geraldo. His statement that

you have an obligation to say, “Was that on the record? Do you really want to say that?”

is vacuous in itself. If you are adhering to Geraldo’s code of conduct and you’re aware of the significance of the quote, you don’t have to ask. You simply don’t use it.

I’d say they were both right. Hasting did what a snake would do, but he shouldn’t have. I fault the snake, myself.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

good points Flag

Doc Holliday (Diary) Saturday, June 26th at 5:45PM EST (link)

I doubt Mchrystal really had that much time to think about all this. Everyone says he was great at politics with tribe leaders etc. Maybe he was just focused on the life and death issues and slipped up on the Rolling Stone issue.

I think someone, somewhere along the line should have said, do we need to do what is right for the greater good or do we need to play gotcha. When I say down the line I mean all the way up to Obama. In fact, the first thing Obama should have done is find out why the General has such disdain for the Executive Branch leaders sans the president himself.

When lives are on the line, what is worse, the insult or the possibility that the insult is warranted?

Molon Labe!

 
 
 

no GC, I implied nothing of the kind

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, June 25th at 8:59PM EST (link)

you inferred improperly. I am not sure if he musings were vain or not, they could have been simply correct. I do agree he made a mistake, but that was not the point of my post. The point of my post was that people SHOULD (not must) have perspective, they should decide what is more important, the war or a hot magazine issue.

Let me put it this way, if a firefighter is saving your child from an inferno, would you find his bad looking teeth to be important? Remember Patton and the slap? It is about decadence, to me the worst thing that ever happened to Western Civilization, and could be its undoing.

BTW, I have said I have problems with Mchrystal’s/ Obama’s MOE, but that is not relevant to the argument I made.

Molon Labe!

My bad, but I liked your Geraldo line about lives on the line

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, June 25th at 9:59PM EST (link)

which seems consistent with McChrystal’s vanity getting the best of him rather than seeing the mission thru to save the lives on the line.

I agreed with all his magazine comments about ObamaLibs.

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I see your point

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, June 25th at 10:05PM EST (link)

not changing mine, but I see yours. It did take two to tango. But the end result is a brilliant warrior is now out of the war.

Molon Labe!

 
 

Yes, we have become decadent and barbaric (abortion) - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, June 25th at 10:01PM EST (link)

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“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 
 

Moe, Roe, you know what I meant lol

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, June 25th at 9:05PM EST (link)

Rules of Engagement.

Molon Labe!

I hit reply to this I swear

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, June 25th at 9:06PM EST (link)

must be a plot against me.

Molon Labe!