To answer any question economic, foreign policy or political regarding President Obama one must only answer one question: What is good for Obama?
President Obama coughed up his birth certificate today. So, the question is: How is this good for Obama?
It has been my view that the “birther” issue turned bad for President Obama some time before the latest round in the press brought the issue to a head.
Here’s the thing about rumors: If people like you, they won’t believe even the most vicious gossip. Like a besotted lover, who refuses to see faults, a political supporter will just see all rainbows and bunnies.
When people start to dislike you, though, they’ll believe every spurious and outrageous claim. Why? Because they’re looking for evidence to support their changed belief.
Americans are looking for evidence to support their changed belief about President Obama. They once looked at their President adoringly. No Jeremiah Wrights, Bill Ayers, lack of college transcripts, lack of scholarly writing, lack of record, or lack of any sort of meaningful resumé would dissuade the public (and certainly not the lapdog press) from their devotion.
But it only takes so many smacks to the head at the gas pump and grocery store and job and bank to make people stop digging the guy who promised them everything. And I mean everything.
Liberals should know what playing with this sort of fire is like. They used it to great effect themselves. Remember the “Bush Lied, Babies Died!” chants? Yeah, well, to their chagrin, the ranting and raving didn’t work at first and President Bush got reelected.
And then President Bush’s second term came around. The press had hounded him (unlike how they cover for President Obama–who would have no approval ratings whatsoever, if the press were honest). The mantras started to work. People started believing that President Bush had lied about weapons of mass destruction. Worse, people believed that President Bush had knowledge of, or even planned the destruction wrought on 9/11. And many on the left still believe this. Why? They want to believe it–to justify their feelings about him.
Facts don’t matter in the political world at the point when people want to believe ill of you. I’ll repeat: Facts Do Not Matter.
People will add stupid evidence to smart evidence to substantial evidence. What they’re looking for is evidence.
Americans, even people who would normally not fall for a rumor that President Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii, started asking, “Yeah, why won’t the President just release the stupid birth certificate? I have a birth certificate. This is no big deal. Why is he making a big deal?”
It is easier to ask outrageous questions about the President than it is to admit making a mistake about electing him to begin with. It’s easier to believe you’re deceived than to make a stupid decision.
President Obama is nothing if not a political beast. He knows, and has known, for a while now, that the birth certificate issue is not fun for him anymore. When he was wink winking away at his buddies in the media (winky wink Jounolist!), it was delicious making people look like fools. Aren’t those right wing crazies crazy? Tee hee!!
President Obama was treating the issue like a juvenile. Unsurprising. He presides as a child.
The last two months, though, have been less fun. With his poll numbers diving and people wanting to be mad at him, President Obama decided to come out today.
Today is as good as any. He had more important information to stomp on–you know high level placements like Leon Panetta at the Defense Department whose first goal is cutting the budget. And even more interesting, David Petraeus moves to the CIA.
Even Politico questions the timing:
To say the timing was curious is an understatement — Obama thoroughly stepped on the news that he was nominating a new secretary of defense (Leon Panetta) and CIA chief (Gen. David Petraeus) by making an announcement that he could have made any time in the past two years or in the near or distant future.
Details. Andrew Malcolm elaborates:
So, here you go. Talk amongst yourselves about this birth certificate thing. While the president and his wife fly Air Force One all the way out to Chicago for the singular purpose of repaying a syndicated television show host who helped them in the crucial early campaign days of 2007.
And then, while you’re still poring over the certificate and the silliness of the entire issue, the president will be flying Air Force One all the way back to New York City tonight for not one, not two, but three Democratic fundraisers. Including one that costing attendees more than 35G’s.
To demonstrate his equanimity, Obama will also likely make a joke during those remarks about the silly birther issue, which will make him seem like a good-natured victim of these superficial clowns who’ve been chasing him to do what he well knew all along they would want him to do lo these many months.
Tah-dah!
What did President Obama talk about to the press today? His birth certificate. He could have stopped the nonsense at any time. He didn’t because it served his purposes.
He put his birth certificate out there today. Why? It served his purposes. The birth certificate rumors no longer help President Obama.
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wolfgang Wednesday, April 27th at 7:05PM EST (link)Exactly the same thing was going on between The OMessiah and the Right’s birther element. He probably had an entirely different moment and a different opportunity to take advantage of planned for the Right before he was to release it. Fortunately, that moment is now gone. Its up to the Right to get its act together, coordinate and plan a way to cook this arrogant little man whose nose is always in the air’s goose in a pot of our choosing.
This is hurting Obama, that's why he didn't milk it longer.
Common_Cents (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 10:29AM EST (link)He couldn’t.
He would have loved to milk it all the way up to before sometime before the election.
“bush is dumb” chants hurt Bush. Obama’s birth issues are hurting Obama.
This will lead into more pressure on the rest of his background as well.
Maybe people will even find out who Ayer’s and Co are and that he wasn’t “just a guy in Barry’s neighborhood”.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
Here's why he did it now
teridavisnewman (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 1:00PM EST (link)1. Corsi’s book is coming out soon and he wanted to hurt sales of the book.
2. The certificate is being questioned as to authenticity by graphic art experts and they are saying it is manufactured.
3. Why would he spend millions to hide this if he had it all along? Either he’s crazy or he finally had to have it manufactured and it took a while to find the experts he could trust to fake it and keep their mouths shut.
4. It’s very convenient that the doctor is dead and there are still no records (billing or otherwise) at the hospital.
5. He never would have produced it if Trump hadn’t really turned up the heat. He defended God knows how many lawsuits rather than show this piece of paper.
6. I’ve seen pictures of Barack Obama Sr. and Junior looks just like his daddy and the other members of his family, so I have no doubt it’s his daddy.
7. In 1961 Jim Crow America, they wouldn’t have used African as his father’s race (which actually was his nationality) they would have used the term “Negro”.
I don’t know what to think about this at this point. The CIA manufactures documents all them time for their operatives all over the world. It’s easy to fake and the numbers don’t match up and I still have a lot of questions. Time will tell.
Teri Davis Newman
2010 Republican Nominee for Congress
2012 Candidate for Congress
12th Congressional District of Illinois
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You should ask for this to be edited out
Juggernaut (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 5:01PM EST (link)If you want to win an election I’d stay away from this controversy and ask a mod to edit your contradicting points 1,2,3 and below. The birther issue ended over 2 years ago for the majority. who trust the former republican Governor Linda Lingle of HI.
“I don’t know what to think about this at this point. The CIA manufactures documents all them time for their operatives all over the world. It’s easy to fake and the numbers don’t match up and I still have a lot of questions. Time will tell.”
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism – please feel free to use is as often as possible…….it will kill his campaign.
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.
Why such an obvious fraud?
larry_hagedon Thursday, April 28th at 9:47PM EST (link)The serious fotoshop errors in the doc are so obvious, I think they intended for us to see that it is fraudulent.
I believe they want to keep us pounding away at it, wasting our energy.
Obama can keep on calling is crazy fools and the MSM will accept the doc without any verification.
larry hagedon
5, Teri nt
20jan2013 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:22PM EST (link)http://archive.redstate.com/stories/the_parties/republicans/mitt_romney_lies_about_abortion
It was a bait and switch tactic all along
gemimail Thursday, April 28th at 1:58PM EST (link)Obama made a big deal about not releasing his long form birth certificate to keep conservatives haring after his foreign born status to cover up the real issue that he still is not a natural born citizen. Because his father was not a U. S. citizen, he is only native born but not natural born as required by the Constitution. There was an article predicting that Obama would release his birth certificate leaving the right wing with “an omelet on their faces” once he was convinced that his not being natural born even though he was born in Hawaii would never get to court. See h ttp://www.marstonchronicles.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=557&Itemid=1380.
And this birth cert is such an obvious fraud...
larry_hagedon Thursday, April 28th at 9:49PM EST (link)Conservatives will keep on pointing out the fraud and Obama and the MSM will keep on laughing at us.
larry hagedon
G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:51PM EST (link)Yup. We still ban birthers.
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Nicely said and well written. NT
powertothepeople (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:09PM EST (link)Yes!
msabul Thursday, April 28th at 10:28AM EST (link)Absolutely agree. Solid, mature, compelling and balanced writing. Engaging while intellectually honest. Two thumbs up, Melissa!!
Notice how the "m" in male doesn't curve down with the line below it?
nvrepub (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:11PM EST (link)Got me wondering…
you are not suggesting he is a woman are you?
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:16PM EST (link)that is all we need lol.
Molon Labe!
Haha, no...
nvrepub (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:18PM EST (link)But someone on the radio pointed this out, and I looked for myself, and he was right – the typed letters (like “male”) don’t curve down with the left side of the page. I have no way of explaining this.
Typewriter malfunction?
Juggernaut (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 5:03PM EST (link)I see it as pointless by radio jocks to ramble on. I’ll wait for the Wikileak from within the government before I take this seriously, again.
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism – please feel free to use is as often as possible…….it will kill his campaign.
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.
Spot on.
frankieb (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:14PM EST (link)n/t
Books … the most exotic, least expensive vacation: www.DelphiBooks.us
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Claire McCaskill goes in so many directions, it’s amazing she hasn’t drawn and quartered herself. www.TruthAboutClaire.com
Two other advantages with today's announcement...
Diogenes314 (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:38PM EST (link)1) He takes the spotlight off of Bernakne’s press conference.
2) He promotes Trump.
Especially #2. Neutralizing the nuttiness of Trumps ‘birther’ pandering and elevating a protectionist dilettante to (the DNC hopes) being a ‘serious’ candidate can only be good for The Planet Healer.
Trump-promotion was my thought too.
toothpick (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 8:10PM EST (link)As you point out, this elevates Donald Trump. Obama no doubt would love to face Trump in Nov 2012, and even if he doesn’t, I’m sure he would be pleased if Trump put up a fierce fight and did some damage to the eventual nominee.
i would say #1
westbrook348 Thursday, April 28th at 1:50AM EST (link)except he doesn’t really have to take the spotlight off it.. most Americans have no idea who Bernanke is.
There’s also #3, as explained by Ace of AOSHQ.. Obama would rather release the birth certificate than release the grades/test scores. One of his favorite pastimes is demonizing the birthers (& the GOP by extension), which IMO is why he didn’t release the long form before now. But he’ll neuter that hobby in a second if it means he can avoid providing definitive proof that he’s not a super genius.
Of course, his whole 2 years in office are proof of that already.. who needs transcripts at this point? Yet our insecure president couldn’t bear the thought of people knowing he barely passed the SAT/LSAT.
Despite where Trump is on my list, this would be fun
Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 10:04AM EST (link)Despite where Trump is on my list (the bottom with Pailn, Huckabee, and Guiliani) due to his social beliefs (regardless of what he says they are now), I’m not convinced that Trump as a nominee (now stripped of the birther baggage) is a losing candidate.
We need a debate on economic issues and we need someone to fix economic things and Trump sure has the name recognition as the face of American business (even if that’s false).
What we really need is the old HP boss Mark Hurd … he could cut the bowels out of any operation, even the government. (I’d pick Carly but Mark actually knew what he was doing, even if he was doing it on the back of employees).
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Trump is still a buffoon.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 10:23AM EST (link)No protectionist is going to come close to winning the GOP nomination.
Trump actually has to demonstrate he understands
Juggernaut (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 5:16PM EST (link)the role of a presidential candidate let alone a wannabe. Thus far Trump has lacked specifics pertaining to how he would fix the economy, create jobs and deal with foreign policy just to name a few. 6 plus weeks and its birther this and that and small talk while the other candidates focused on real issues. Trump has a lot to prove and he still has to explain 3 bankruptcies at his casino which calls into question whether he could run the government any better. I’m open minded but thus far all I’ve seen is a sideshow.
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism – please feel free to use is as often as possible…….it will kill his campaign.
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.
Trump has a solid economic/jobs plan.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 5:28PM EST (link)Trade war with China.
Because it worked so well in the 1930s, you know.
That's good. And Trump admits he buys from
Juggernaut (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 5:42PM EST (link)China all the time so he’s got so spaining to do, buying cheap isn’t good enough if he wants to be potus. What we need are tariffs to counter the tariffs Americans pay to export to other countries.
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism – please feel free to use is as often as possible…….it will kill his campaign.
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.
Oh look, someone shilling for taxes
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:52PM EST (link)Very well Comrade.
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Makes sense to me
jaykali (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:48PM EST (link)I thought when Trump started spouting off ab it on all the talk shows that it was going to force Obama’s hand, I’m surprised he got it out of him this early. I know Trump is a cartoon character but he is a smart guy and he was able to make normal people say, geese why doesn’t Obama show his birth certificate? I just learned ab this whole illegal deal in Hawaii thing today which is funny bc I thought I was up to speed on the whole deal. I had no idea you couldn’t photo copy your own birth certificate. It seems reasonable now to me that he hadn’t gone to the trouble to release it, plus it made right wingers look crazy.
Anywho I’m happy Trump forced the issue bc now it is settled. The only people left who will believe its a forgery will be your super-crazies that are 9-11-truther-ish that no one will pay attention to.
I have been sick of this issue bc it’s been tied to the Tea Party by the MSM. Now that this is settled they will have to rely on old faithful “Racism” (closet Racism, I mean just look at them they’re white! They have to be racist!). Make no mistake, Tavis Smiley has alrighty started the conversation, 1 cheap tactic in the next election will be “vote for Obama or you’re a racist.” They didn’t really have to use this much last time, but hey anything that works.
Obama blew it. He now just looks like a fool.
Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 7:49PM EST (link)The document he released will not satisfy the birthers and, in fact, will just add fuel to their fire as they attack every nit. As such, I doubt we will see much change in the polling on the issue.
Further, in that the document released doesn’t appear to have anything that would have precluded it from being released a long time ago, Obama just looks like a fool for allowing it to balloon into a legitimate political issue. Legitimate in the sense that the issue finally rose to be part of his political persona.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
To you really believe it was his intention to satisfy the hardcore birthers?
randy streu (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 8:02PM EST (link)Come on. Birthers are just gonna keep making themselves look stupid. I’m pretty sure that’s the plan.
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Randy, you seem to be rather a dull bulb.
Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 10:32PM EST (link)“To you really believe it was his intention to satisfy the hardcore birthers? ”
How did you get that inference out of my post? Advertise for someone with a modicum of comprehension skills and an extensive two syllable vocabulary who can read and explain my post to you.
As for people making themselves look stupid, you seem to have opened a lead.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
"The document he released will not satisfy the birthers and, in fact, will just add fuel to their fire as they attack every nit. "
randy streu (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 6:13AM EST (link)Really? Just gonna jump right into the insults because I disagreed with you?
Wow. Keep it up. You’re making yourself look really smart.
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You didn't disagree with me,
Tbone (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 10:06AM EST (link)you created a position for me out of thin air. Where did I say he released the document to satisfy anyone? Where? No, dummy, I said exactly the opposite. What part of, “The document he released will not satisfy the birthers…” can’t you understand?
Nope, you are so busy posting all over these threads that you didn’t even take time to read and understand. That is stupid and foolish. Try not to be in the future.
As for your feeling insulted, I am pleased that you at least have that level of cognition. Good for you, there may be hope.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
If you read the title of my above post, you'll see that I quoted you.
randy streu (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 10:16AM EST (link)My point was, simply, that it wasn’t Obama’s INTENTION to satisfy anyone. So, no, it won’t, but that wasn’t the point. Your post inferred that it WAS his point, and that he failed at it.
But no, I don’t honestly feel insulted. I’m too familiar with your general tendency to be an asshat to be insulted by you.
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I thought that it was you on which I was sitting.
Tbone (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 10:41PM EST (link)Thanks for the confirmation.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Come up with that all by yourself, did you?
randy streu (Diary) Friday, April 29th at 6:09AM EST (link)Or did you have help?
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My best advice to you Randy is to hire Moe
Tbone (Diary) Friday, April 29th at 4:12PM EST (link)to write some witty retorts. Now, you may have the last word, lame though it will be.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Come on. Birthers are just gonna keep making themselves look stupid. I’m pretty sure that’s the plan.
daledor Thursday, April 28th at 5:59PM EST (link)Consider this, why did Obama not do what has been done by all other presidents called – following Constitutional LAW??? Why hold up and play with a critical part of the Constitution?? Schwarzenegger and Kissinger both said that they could not be president because they were natural born citizens!!!!!
Is Obama above the law and can he ignore standard procedures. Speaking of that, Adolph Hitler placed ‘non-elected’ and ‘non-scrutinized’ officials in charge of government posts (NAZI’s – National SoZialists) . These CZARS that are pushing Congress around, did not have the required ‘FBI background search and Congressional approval as other presidents were required. In all fairness, recent presidents may have violated this protocol also. No man is above the law or should act above the law!!! (with more and more socialists in the Supreme Court, perhaps law is now an absurd thing and we might as well quit trying to do what is right and let the Socialists lead us to anarchy??? Not on my Watch!!
Double fool!
skorrent1 (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 8:32PM EST (link)Had this been done in ’08 there would have been no “birther” movement.
No birthers means no discussion over “native-born” vs “natural-born”, no dual-citizenship discussion.
Birthers unearthed the Barry Saetoro registration as an Indonesian.
Birthers questioned the missing passport to Pakistan, the missing school records.
So, NOW he gives up the recorded BC, which he could have done any time, and the other questions are supposed to go away?
The Donald says no. Go, Donald!
Why did o spend upwards of 2 million
renny (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 8:36PM EST (link)defendibg against showing a nornal birth certificate? Freedom Warch is suing o for using campaign funds in these defense suits.
Now Trump says he wants the school records.
I think Trump now needs a program like the energy sector and not more records, altho’ anyone who cossets his past so that no one can tell his legitimacy is paranoid or genuinely hiding something he fears.
He didn't.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 8:57PM EST (link)And Trump and his groupies are still nothing but useful idiots.
Useful for The Planet Healer, of course.
He did
edingerb Thursday, April 28th at 11:22AM EST (link)I have read that on numerous sites. Since we are all just passing around figures that others are using, renny makes a valid point.
No, he didn't
sandbun (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 11:52AM EST (link)http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-claims-obama-has-spent-2-million-lega/
He paid 1.7 to a law firm for various matters, given how little traction the birther suits got it’s obvious the vast majority of that money wasn’t spent to hide his certificate. In comparison McCain, who took public financing and therefore didn’t have as many legal issues with fundraising to worry about, spent 1.3 on his campaign law firm.
A rumor on the internet, no matter how many crackerjack sites, is still not fact.
If anyone is fighting lawsuits its friends of Obama
Juggernaut (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 5:47PM EST (link)because every president has people who will go t bat for them to deal with buffoonery and legal issues the white house doesn’t want to deal with. Clinton had people dealing with women from his past, then he stained a dress and the rest is history.
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism – please feel free to use is as often as possible…….it will kill his campaign.
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.
Probably the same reason
aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 9:41PM EST (link)that Trump spent a stack of money on his private investigators: it was politically advantageous.
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
But who are those investigators and do they have
Juggernaut (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 5:50PM EST (link)birth certificates and why won’t Trump release the names of his rvate dicks? Not that the certifiacte issue is over the media shall press Trump to produce the so called evidence. If he refuses they will not let it go, the media still suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome, now the media are Trump carriers so don’t touch the media or let them breathe on you. LOL .
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism – please feel free to use is as often as possible…….it will kill his campaign.
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.
Right Arm!
daledor Thursday, April 28th at 5:23PM EST (link)I love your logos for one reason – the left considers anything right of them as “Extreme Right-Wingers”. It is the only posture the Socialist Left can use to demonize anyone who disagrees with them. They are the real extremists.
“People are not DIGITAL.They are ANALOG!!! The Socialist Left and a few Right Wingers are the only people who are extremist. If you are going to be extreme then be extreme in following God’s Written Word rather than Socialist Propaganda (twisting everything to conform to their twisted views so that they can have power, control of people, and all the money).
Lost in the blog
daledor Thursday, April 28th at 5:32PM EST (link)The motto was:
“Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.”
An interesting aside
Right Reason (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 8:03PM EST (link)A large part of the reaction seems to be. “there’s nothing there. So why didn’t he do this sooner?” This is coming even from the left. This tells me that even they believed that there was something in the birth certificate that needed to be hidden. They didn’t truly believe in their own messiah.
Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
- Winston Churchill
Liberal snobbery sums it up best
Juggernaut (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 8:14PM EST (link)Both Obama and the liberal media snob their noses at issues they call sideshows. Obama has been called out for the fool he is and now Obama has been weakened by Trump. When a president gets called out by a potential candidate it weakens him. Screw liberals and the media zealots. George W. Bush had to answer to the draft dodger allegations during the election. Obama should have settled this as should the media who should have investigated and reported in detail during the election. Instead they all snobbed their snot noses at it. In so Obama has been weakened, its his fault!
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism – please feel free to use is as often as possible…….it will kill his campaign.
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.
I hate to break the news, it's not just them.
Diogenes314 (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 9:01PM EST (link)The rest of us are laughing at The Donald and his groupies as well.
Question:
daledor Thursday, April 28th at 5:43PM EST (link)” Why did it take hammering and hammering Obama to get him to do what all Presidents before him had done and is required by the Constitution – proving he is an American Citizen?????”
Yes, he is president but he is no better a person and has no more constitutional rights than you or I.
I remember when a police man pulled Hillary over and how she responded rudely and crudely to the officer, as if she was above the LAW.
Obama is not above the law either and has only the rights of his position as president to have any special privileges. He is not a KING but a president. I never would ‘bow’ before any president but try to honor the position of president, no matter who holds the post temporarily.
Obama is merely a man who was given, justly or unjustly, his position as president. That is all! Under the Constitution, he and all the government are supposed to serve the people – not lord over all the people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[RNC Contest!]
morris21654 Wednesday, April 27th at 9:08PM EST (link)Keep harping on birth certificates, Obama’s religion, his schools records, etc. You few, you wacky fools, you brand of botherers will hasten the reelection of Obama in 2012 because most of the rest of the electorate will think, “How can we vote for a candidate that these nuts support?” To paraphrase a famous Republican, “You can fool all the people some of the time, some of the people all the time, but you can’t fool all the people all the time.” Lincoln is spinning in his grave because of the shambles you have made of the Republican Party.
Obama also possibly released the long form to head off other requests for his paper trail.
SoFiMil (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 9:19PM EST (link)Now he can say to those requesting his State Senate papers, “professor” papers, law review papers (if any), and college transcripts, that he’s tired of the nonsense, and won’t release anything else. The only nonsense request was indeed for his birth certificate. The rest are very legitimate and relevant questions.
He’ll still have to fend off the natural follow-up question of why he won’t release other records, since he released his long form birth certificate. This was his best hand to play, and for a total fraud, he played it as well as he could.
Excellent diary. No one’s fainting from staring into his dreamy eyes anymore. Whoever provided the LA Times with the video of him toasting Rashidi Khalidi might even have had enough and give the go-ahead to release the videotape.
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well said
westbrook348 Thursday, April 28th at 1:52AM EST (link)couldn’t agree more
I think you're exactly right
bk (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 6:38AM EST (link)For everything else, he’ll say “here we go again!” and how it’s more of the same garbage that was already shown to be a bunch of lies. Very convenient.
Don't dismiss the state birther bills
sandbun (Diary) Wednesday, April 27th at 9:35PM EST (link)I think that’s the most like reason. My first thought when I hear he was doing it was to wonder why he gave up his best way of making the right look crazy. It could be the birther issue was starting to be worse for him than the GOP, though I have my doubts that that is the case. But now just recently several birther bills are looking like they will soon become law in certain states. Therefore he had to do it sooner or later to be on the ballot in those states, and by doing it sooner it doesn’t look like state GOPers forced him, he did it of his own free will, or at least it looks that way. The only one who can claim victory is Trump, and he’s no threat to Obama.
Obama Birth Certificate Scam?
mjs_pa Thursday, April 28th at 12:10AM EST (link)h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c
Birfer alert [nt]
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Good Grief
powertothepeople (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 12:42AM EST (link)you birthers would not stop if God himself came blasting out of the skies and screamed loudly that this was a legitimate form.
That video was absolute nonsense and it is sad just how many fools are buying into it. Why quit even when one of your tin foil conspiracies are blown away, grab another no matter how stupid it is.
On the other hand, it is somewhat amusing to watch a tactic of the left turned against the left
bk (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 6:42AM EST (link)They love to do two things (other than raising taxes):
1. No matter how much the GOP compromises on an issue, say it’s ‘a good first step’ and demand more.
2. When the GOP breaks down and answers some ridiculous lie of a charge, continue the lie by saying that they raised more questions than they answered.
We’re seeing a lot of #2 (so to speak).
But its not getting turned against the left
powertothepeople (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 8:34AM EST (link)it is being turned against us. The left is not getting hurt by these nut jobs, we are. They find it more amusing than you do.
Can't believe I'm doing this
Tavern Keeper (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 12:38AM EST (link)Caveat – I believe, for the reason that his mother was an American citizen, that the President is “natural born.”
I apologize if I missed a post, but WHY are there layers in the PDF that the WH produced? In the very least it looks like some manipulation occurred (whether it was malicious or not, not judging either way. Just seems strange that the “manipulation” factor would even come into play.
I work for a marketing company. Lots of experience with various image working software. It is just very interesting.
SO the question is why – since it is clear to me through his mother’s lineage – that President Obama is an Natural Born Citizen – why would these anomalies be witnessed in this electronic release?
I’m treading on very thin ice here, I know. And for the record, I’m not questioning the “Natural Born” issue. I’m just wondering outloud if this could be, for whatever reason, an assembly job.
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What part of "it doesn't matter" don't you get?
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 12:44AM EST (link)There is absolutely nothing that could be done if we had verified film of Obama being born on the moon of Mexican Muslim parents.
Get over it. Concentrate on something that matters. This doesn’t. Concentrate on something that we can actually do something about. This ain’t it.
Oh, and neither are his college transcripts.
I can't pragmatically argue with that
Tavern Keeper (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 12:48AM EST (link)A little something in me still things we have a constitutional question. But like I said, by virtue of his mother’s citizenship, I believe he’s a citizen. Just funny how they leave room open that this this “could be tampered with” type deal. Could be a trap, or a software issue. Just saying its curious. Anyway I know that in the big picture, its a distraction.
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OK, so it's a Constitutional question.
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:52AM EST (link)And for argument’s sake, we’ll assume the the bc is proven to be false and Obama admits it’s false. And goes on to note that he really WAS born in Kenya.
Now what? Be specific please.
Oh, and this (and the transcripts) have ALWAYS been nothing more than a distraction for small minded, ignorant people.
Please take a moment to read this from one you classify as small minded and ignorant.
controse Thursday, April 28th at 2:49PM EST (link)To stand for election you must be a natural born U.S. citizen. He presented himself thus. If he is not he was not eligible to be elected. If he wasn’t eligible his election is null and void. The other guy won by default because he did not have a legal opponent. mbecker908 either you believe in the rule or law or you don’t. Well, do ya, punk?
Mr. President, show us your papers! [pass it on]
Ahhh, a dyed in the wool birther.
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 2:53PM EST (link)And, I note that while blathering like a fool about his BC, you didn’t bother to answer my question. I’m not surprised.
His short form BC from Hawaii was exactly what he needed to satisfy the Constitutional requirements.
And yes, you are a small minded, ignorant fool and, I suspect, not to be with us for long.
It appears we missed you in the past.
Bill S (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 3:00PM EST (link)The birther crackdown continues. You can email the contact link if you aren’t really a birther and are simply misunderstood…
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Fine work bs.
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 3:03PM EST (link)Nice wrist action with the blam stick.
It's a copy of a copy
mspector (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 7:16AM EST (link)If I were dealing with this document in the context of a trial and contesting whether it was admissible in evidence I would be challenging provenance.
On the face of it seems obvious that this document is on a modern form used in Hawai’i and is not in the format actually used in 1961 (simple comparison with LFBCs posted online show that much of a difference). So, how did this document come into being? Is it actually what it is purported to be?
The attestation stamp is dated 4/25/11, which most likely means that is the date the document was generated. The document is in the modern format used by Hawai’i, not the format of the original hospital form from 1961. However it was done, the person(s) who prepared this document copied entries from the original form and “pasted” them in here. OK, that does not mean that the entries are fraudulent, but if the issue is authentication and provenance, this means I would be entitled to see the actual copy the entries were taken from.
I could also raise the challenge that about a week ago Hawai’i announced that nobody, not even Mr Obama, could obtain that actual copy. Yet somebody clearly has done so. So I would be entitled to put the person who signed the attestation on the stand to inquire as to who got access to that copy, what was done, by whom and how, and to compare the actual copy to this document.
That’s what I could do as a lawyer. Ultimately I think the document would be established and Obama would be shown to have been born in Hawai’i. It is his misfortune that he took so long to do this and presented it in an entirely peevish way (“silliness”, “sideshows and carnival barkers”), all of which just contributes to perhaps the more important perception that he does all he can to avoid being forthright with the American people. That’s the real harm done to Obama in this situation, and I don’t think it is something he will easily overcome, if at all.
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They might well be playing with the birthers
littlehouse18 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:16AM EST (link)by deliberately doctoring up the document and only releasing one page, thinking they are oh so funny. They’re such juvenile snobs that I wouldn’t put it past them.
Surprise: There's an answer
petrarch Thursday, April 28th at 12:04PM EST (link)It would appear that scanning an image and converting it to PDF will in fact create “layers” much like those seen in the file the WH released. National Review tried it with one of their covers and that’s what happened.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding
We can all doff the tinfoil hats now.
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Excuse me folks, but I am a so-called "birther"...
qurys Thursday, April 28th at 5:31AM EST (link)although I don’t agree with any of the hypotheses that he was born in Kenya or Canada, it did seem reasonable to me that a candidate for Senate or Congress or President be asked to provide a birth certificate that contains the same information that anyone else is asked to provide. That’s it. They work for me. I am tired of being labeled something as if I had two heads and an IQ of 12. Why should we not determine what a US citizen is and what a natural born citizen really is? I don’t care who it helps/hurts/promotes/antagonizes/patronizes etc etc. The scoffing and mocking yesterday from the POTUS to the conservative media was really something to behold. I cannot count the number of times it was called anything from silly to unimportant to radical. Nor the number of times I heard “I told you so”. So much for our constitutional framework.
So, you think he was born in Indonesia? [nt]
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G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:55PM EST (link)Since you admit it, it’s easy.
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satan the master of all lies and DECEIT
johntvalentine Thursday, April 28th at 5:53AM EST (link)When is our beloved America ever going to learn that satan is the master of all lies and deceit. This nobama hates America’s GOD given CONSTITUTION. This same nobama spent millions of hardworking taxpayers dollars for lawyers to keep his paperwork from being transparent. Is this a NATURAL course of action. NO, it’s pure dispicable deceit. This specimen nobama, is absolutely no leader of the greatest nation on earth. This nobama taking our beloved America to war in Libia alone, should cause action of TREASON brought against him. WAKE UP AMERICA.. WAKE UP.
John T. Valentine
Certificate Still Invalid
pookie1097 Thursday, April 28th at 6:52AM EST (link)I looked at a copy of Mr. Obama’s birth certificate as provided in a PDF on Yahoo and noted that it was a record of his name as it CURRENTLY stands. it was not a record of his original birth certificate. His name was not Barack Hussein Obama II at birth. It was Barry something or other which he later changed to his current name. Anyone could concoct an “official” birth certificate AFTER a change in name, which is a legal process. It would seem that the court records would have required a copy of his original birth certificate when he changed his name from what it was at birth to what it is today. Yet, as far as anyone knows, no such record exists. Therefore, i would submit, for those who really care whether Obama is an “American” or a “foreigner trying to be American”, that this current release just isn’t good enough and is no more valid than any previous statement or argument made by the Obama camp. If you really, really care, then get out and vote and make sure he does not get reelected. Then, it really won’t make any difference.
wrong.
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"foreigner trying to be American"
jlsankot Thursday, April 28th at 7:10AM EST (link)If he was trying to be American, he wouldn’t be destroying America as he is. He has absolutely no intention to keep the United States exceptional in the eyes of the world. His purpose is to destroy and that is exactly what he is doing–and it’s amazing as to how easily and quickly he is able to do it when he has the cooperation of the RINOs.
I know what you are saying, but just had to get in my 2 cents worth
funny
gunslingr45 Thursday, April 28th at 7:43AM EST (link)he still has everyone talking about it. QUICK where is his left hand?
Exactly where it's always been
randy streu (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 8:22AM EST (link)Still in my pocket.
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Ann_W (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:09AM EST (link)“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.”
— Milton Friedman
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Here's something you don't want to hear
renny (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 7:51AM EST (link)Small points: If little o is named after his father in the second generation, he is NOT Barack II. He is JUNIOR. The grandson is II.
Today, it might be a slip of a clerk because genealogical niceties are not characteristic of today’s ill educated young people, but in 1961, women were still not going grocery shopping without accompanying matching hats, shoes, and purses no such error would be tolerated.
There would be no comma before II.
“Black” was not a term used in 1961 or on documents for at least a decade or more. The proper term was “Negro,” which was considered formal and liberal.
No well disciplined young (prob.) woman clerk who had taken office practice in her high school would make such blunders on an important document like a birth cert. She would get fired.
Untrue.
randy streu (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 8:02AM EST (link)It’s entirely up to the parents.
Sincerely, Randall D. Streu II.
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Don't make me ban you, renny.
Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 8:25AM EST (link)In case you haven’t noticed, we’re cracking down on this hard.
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lunaticrex Thursday, April 28th at 11:14AM EST (link)I logged in just to say that is an outstanding sig, Moe.
There have been far too many words written about this, but to stay on topic, my main concern about this issue has always been the damage that could be done to our utterly unique system of government if the birthers were to actually be proven correct. As satchman3 notes below “Throwing the president out on a technicality would be a pyrrhic victory. Elections matter.”
In fact, the 2008 election is all that matters in this instance.
That said, Aaron did pique my interest…Trig Palin. Who knew?
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Birth Certificate Proves He is NOT Eligible
EaglesFlight Thursday, April 28th at 9:13AM EST (link)The founders wanted to prevent dual citizenship (dual allegiance) from anyone occupying the White House, especially as Commander in Chief. Hence they used the term “natural born citizen” which was defined in the “Law of Nations” which they used and often referred to. Read Vattel’s treatise about native and natural born citizens.
One must be born on a Country’s soil by parents (Plural) who are citizens of that country. His father was a Kenyan, which was a British Crown Colony at the time. So Obama’s father was a British subject, totally disqualifying him for the Presidency. NOTE: He was also later adopted and in order for him to attend school in Indonesia h had to be a citizen of Indonesia, which he was by virtue of the adoption. So at that point he lost any claim to American citizenship as well as his British citizenship. That alone would disqualify him as well.
It has never been about the Birth Certificate….it is not even about Obama…
It has always been about the CONSTITUTION. The Constitution either means what it says or it means nothing at all. If you choose to ignore one part of it then you can throw the thing away because nothing will matter.. Call me what you will: Birther, Racist, whatever. I know that I am a “Patriot”. I believe in the Constitution. I have sworn an oath on 4 occasions to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic. I am trying to do just that. We have a Usurper in the White House as Commander in Chief who is actively working to destroy America. He has no allegiance to America. He did not grow up with an American experience. Instead he grew up and has surrounded himself ever since with people who hate America, who want us to become part of a One World Government which is socialistic in nature. He does not believe in Free Enterprise or American exceptionalism. He chastises the US abroad and bows before our enemies. Yes, I am a Patriot and I will fight for this Country and against the Usurper until my last breath. He is NOT Eligible…period.
Had this argument. Still a birther.
randy streu (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:24AM EST (link)Did you really sign in just to do that?
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OK, you're a birther.
Bill S (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 10:31AM EST (link)And you’re gone.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Very astute piece. Bravo.
barleycorn (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:51AM EST (link)I signed into Redstate today for the purpose of making the point that conservatives still don’t grasp all the rules of the game. This post saved me a lot of writing.
As the writer states in other words, in politics facts only matter to the extent the voters “want” them to matter. The Bush analogy was one I planned to use. GWB became as unpopular as he was because lies were told about him over and over and over. Even Republicans came to cringe at his visage, not so much for policy reasons, but because he was so viciously DEFINED by his enemies.
For these reasons I believe many conservatives have been off base in their attempts to shut down the “birthers” with ridicule. Redstate’s ban on “birtherism” is understandable and correct because the site would not benefit from the association, but the cause of conservatism does benefit from that which tarnishes Obama’s undeserved sheen of respectability, competence, and knowledge.
BDS is back, not Bush Derangement Syndrome
Common_Cents (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 11:47AM EST (link)but Birther Derangement Syndrome.
Obama’s sealed opaque past matters, because people are now increasingly wanting it to matter. Fringe groups have taken up the vetting job that should have been done during the campaign and it has caught on. There will be many fits and starts but seeking the truth and the facts is a noble goal. Are there nuts out there ? Of course. But there are plenty of credible people discussing hard facts that can have a reasonable discussion.
There arose a couple videos of self claimed experts doing a video analysis that sounds pretty factual and rational. If there is a rational explanation to these inconsistencies then I’d love to hear them in search of the truth. Instead, there is only name calling in response. Sounds real defensive to me.
This doesn’t have to be an integral part of main stream politics and RS as obama’s policies are disastrous. But the level of toxicity of the Birther Derangement Syndrome here is not helping. People are reduced to calling names, sticking fingers in their ears and yelling na na na, I can’t hear you. I’ve seen people just commenting on the effect of the situation called birthers. A few at RS have come down with BDS and the toxicity is now just carrying water for Obama himself. It is turning away good conservatives from this site.
RS is getting off track in demanding voter purity rather than candidate purity, not just in the BDS category but many other areas. There is a disturbing streak of people playing “Who’s smarter than a RS stater?” in an attempt to outdo each other. That is serving to exclude rather than include, counterproductive to circling the wagons and winning in 2012
My personal view is about fact finding and the truth. Put your hand on the Bible and/or look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if you and America has been given the honest to God truth about Obama?
I have no problems with various groups investigating and discussing issues in a rational manner. I totally agree that drive by birthers are irritating and not helping, but neither are BDS’ers calling names and telling people, who can discuss facts rationally, to get over it.
Not sure how anyone can deny that Bush Derangement Syndrome didn’t cause great trouble for conservatives, and that BDS was based on repeating “Bush is Dumb”. Similarly birth issues have grown and forced Obama’s hand early, otherwise he would’ve tried to milk it to much closer to the election.
Here is what is important. Birth issues, legit or not, are the catalyst. This will be a stepping stone.
Citizen or not, Obama himself created the doubt, and will be vetted, but I am more interested in this leading to exposing Obama’s past documented radical associations, all the stuff that was never really vetted by the MSM. Bill Ayers just a guy in the neighborhood? Yeah right.
Obama started it, American citizens will end it.
Circle the wagons, or circular firing squad? A choice for RS.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
BC Fraud
wpeterkin Thursday, April 28th at 10:50AM EST (link)The truth is that this “Birth Certificate” everyone seems giddy over would not be accepted by the U.S. Passport Office for issuing a standard passport. A Certificate of Live Birth is NOT an official Birth Certificate. The federal government made my wife and I write to the place of our birth and obtain, for a fee, an original, certified, Birth Certificate to obtain a passport in 1999. The kind of document released by Obama (and known about for a long time) was NOT acceptable as proof of citizenship by our own government. This whole thing is an amusing fraud. I have asked my legislators to push legislation to require that every presidential contender offer real, official proof of citizenship, a certified Birth Certificate, before placing anyone’s name on a future ballot, beginning in 2012. This sad debacle should never be allowed to happen again.
Ok, here's the truth wpeterkin... Obama's real father is Trig Palin. It's complicated, just accept it. BIRFER nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 11:01AM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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Ann_W (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 11:06AM EST (link)“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.”
— Milton Friedman
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What is the point of your nastiness? nt
jbben Thursday, April 28th at 12:00PM EST (link)To mock conspiracy theorists. What's your point? nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 12:08PM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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Reading some comments here
ohtimtim (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 5:33PM EST (link)is like reading a Leftist blog
YES! the truth in a nutshell
jbben Thursday, April 28th at 11:58AM EST (link)As you said, wpeterkin, “A Certificate of Live Birth is NOT an official Birth Certificate.” This small pesky truth seems to evade the rest of this group. Thank you for bringing it up.
And conversely jbben, just because your posting privileges
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 10:27PM EST (link)have not as yet been revoked does not by any stretch of the imagination mean you are not an idiot.
G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 12:10PM EST (link)We still ban birthers.
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Why now? Maybe he's exhausted
satchman3 Thursday, April 28th at 10:50AM EST (link)Exhausted that this issue continues to linger. I know I am tired of it.
Throwing the president out on a technicality would be a pyrrhic victory. Elections matter.
Great piece
Sheila_Frush (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 11:09AM EST (link)Well done, Melissa!
The president is playing games… his actions continue to make America look bad.
Like him or not Trump called him on the carpet and the president caved.
The fact that he enjoys playing these little games is not a good thing for the country, and shows how shallow he is.
It was a sad day when Americans were duped by “hope and change” and an “historic presidency”… we are now paying the price.
Very good Post, Melissa.
realskinny (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 11:15AM EST (link)You pretty well covered it. Something I don’t understand is why the so-called birthers don’t move on. It doesn’t matter where he was born–which is almost certainly Hawaii–He’s the President of the USA. There is no way the Democrats or the courts would remove him under ANY circumstances. Our job is to see he is not re-elected.
As Ann Coulter said last night, no conservative organization or media outlet has claimed BO was not born in the USA. It is the Left-wing media that has been obsessed with and kept this story in the headlines. They have done this for their usual nefarious purposes. We have better things to do.
How about cataloging the statements by BO and his appointees wanting higher oil/gas prices…..The numerous actions taken to restrict the supply of oil over the last thirty years by Democrats…..The numerous violations of the law by this administration? Wait, Michelle Malkin wrote a whole book on that last one. Anyway, you get my point. This is the worst, most corrupt administration in history. We should be talking about that.
As for Trump, we already have a narcissist in the White House. How has that been working out? He has given most of his support to Left-wing Democrats. Why would anyone think he would not continue once he was President? IMO his motive is to ensure the re-election of B. Hugo Obama and rest is just an ego trip.
"Birther" nonsense a diversion from real Obama Danger.
bryankdonnelly (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 11:21AM EST (link)As a lifelong conservative-libertarian going all the way back to the Barry Goldwater campaign in 1964 when I was kid I defer to NOBODY in my opposition to the Marxist Obama and his policies. He’s in the process of destroying my country in order to turn it into a socialist hell on earth. That is why it is so important to focus on the REAL danger of Obamaisim; real issues.
The whole “birther” issue was nonsense from day one. Regardless of WHERE Obama was born geographically (Biloxi Mississippi, Honolulu Haawii, or Timbuktoo) he was born to a MOTHER who, though a loony Marxist, was an AMERICAN CITIZEN. John McCain was born in Panama but was as much an American as Abraham Lincoln. The operative word is CITIZEN and his mother WAS. It is the womb from which he emerged NOT where that womb was at the time located.
Thus he is qualified for the presidency, disaster though he is. Perhaps we may now forget this diversion into conspiracy theory worthy of the 9-11 “truthers” who believe that G W Bush either caused, or knew in advance about the attack on the USA and focucs on the deficit, destruction of our free market economic system, destruction of our constitutional republic and our liberties, not to mention the hideous Obama economy. THAT will defeat the Obama Marxist Democrat-socialists next year, NOT obsessions about birth certificates that only make the conservative Tea Party movement look like nut cases; which the leftist media exploit to the fullest.
Perhaps we may also, providentially, see the end of the loopy Donald Trump “campaign.” “The Donald,” posessor of the world’s most massive comb over, is NOT a conservative and is playing to the ignorant anti-trade populism ever popular on both right and left fringes. Trump would be a greater threat to the nation if he actually WERE elected than his candidacy is to the GOP. See Michelle Malkin’s great column on Trump as an imminent domain (property grabbing) politically connected urban contractor.
Now on to defeat Obama, take over the Senate, abolish Obamacare and restore our republic!
Bryan
OK, I get it
jbben Thursday, April 28th at 12:07PM EST (link)Constitutional requirements for being the President do not matter. It’s just a minor glitch. Does the Constitution matter at all? I confess to being stupid enough to think that what the Constitution requires was important. So you’re right. Let’s just drop it since the “document” just produced is the same old worthless piece of paper that won’t get you or me a drivers license. No big deal.
What a marvelous idea.
Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 12:18PM EST (link)You first.
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Apparently I needed to be clearer.
Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 12:25PM EST (link)Blam.
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My (combined) wish list.
Good one, J!
Sheila_Frush (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 12:20PM EST (link)And right on!
Excellent Analysis
kennyg53 Thursday, April 28th at 2:25PM EST (link)I have to deal with people’s motivations on a daily basis and I think you have hit this as close to the mark as any person can.
It will be extraordinarly hard for any supporter of our President to admit that they were wrong about his character, politics or capabilities, because to do so would be an adission that they have something personally wrong with them. I run across this problem with people all the time. They equate making a simple analytical mistake with something being wrong with their personhood.
It is only when a person can change an erroneous belief that they personally grow. This is at the core of the problem with the typical modern liberal. They come into adulthood with certain erroneous beliefs and cannot find it within themselves to see their error. Therefore they stay stuck. This also explains why so many of them continue to speak and act like spoiled children.
Why don't we let this play out...
AncientTom (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:45PM EST (link)before banning numbers of FredStaters. In other words, simply resist the urge to rush to judgment. I’m sure Jerome Corsi and others will fight this battle to a conclusion – we needn’t fight it here.
Also, I can’t help but ask, is anyone else bothered by the fact that Lt. Col. Terry Lakin is serving a 6-month prison sentence for asking to see the birth certificate? Obama let a military man of conscience go to prison rather than release his birth certificate, but now out of the blue he does.
Because
powertothepeople (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:52PM EST (link)the site has no interest in being a haven for conspiracy nuts or fanatics who buy into every piece of nonsense about Obama that comes their way. There are plenty of sites on the web dedicated to birther, truther, and other such conspiracies. This is an activist site dedicated to furthering the conservative cause and those conspiracy theories and the nuts who believe in it are a distraction and do damage to all of us. That is why the mods ban them on site and will continue to do so.
Lastly, Lt. Col Rankin was not imprisoned for asking for a birth certificate, he was jailed for refusing to follow a lawful command. Obama did not owe Ranking a copy of anything and Rankin had a duty which he refused to do. That is why he is in jail and his career over. The birth certificate thing is only a sidetrack.
G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:56PM EST (link)No, we’ll just let your account play out.
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Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 9:57PM EST (link)Terry Lakin went to jail because he was an oath breaker, and attempted to undermine our military at war. He’s lucky they didn’t hang him.
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I'm personally outraged that Lakin got six months.
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 10:24PM EST (link)He should have gotten 20 to life.
Terry Lakin is slime
rogershru2 (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 10:40PM EST (link)Terry Lakin does not deserve to call himself a soldier, wear the rank of Lt. Col., or claim to be part of the medical corps. As one who deployed to OEF and OIF as a battalion surgeon, it disgusts me to see somebody else weasel out of deployment. Terry, while you are objecting to deployment on the basis of birtherism, there are soldiers, airmen, sailors, marines, and others who are being injured and whom you could have helped.
“We used to have the best infrastructure in the world here in America. We’re the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad …” – President Obama
This is in no way settled...
ATGinCT (Diary) Thursday, April 28th at 11:46PM EST (link)/sarcasm on/
Clearly he is from another planet with an advanced society that is dependent on hydrocarbons, hence his insistence that we not use any of the oil located here in the US.
Early on, he was able to use his telepathic ability to lull people into mindlessly following him, it’s why he has such huge ears, they are the transmitters. But now that so many of us know we need to wear our tinfoil hats, the jig is up and soon we will all be herded into death camps through the use of Obamacare panels. The fact he’s an out of this world alien is the only reason we don’t get to see his health records, see that, makes sense right?
After all of us that oppose him are dead or have received brain implants, so we are compliant, then the mother ship will come down and suck up all the oil.
Makes much more sense as all the birther stuff right?
/sarcasm off/
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lylem Saturday, May 14th at 9:26PM EST (link)with a Certificate of Live Birth.