We did not lose over 4000 American Soldiers stopping the Whorefiffic HUSSEIN killings and CORRUPTION by his sons and his thugs to just turn the page.
I have found the obama facts are about 10% accurate and his speeches should be treated as such.
See you on NOV 2nd obama and obama crats. Real American will not forget IRAQ and all the GOOD our Soldiers have done NO THANKS to obama.

One of the many things which irked me about the speech last night is that he fails to see the good that regular Soldiers and Marines do when out on patrol. Not every patrol ends up in a shoot out. Many folks fail to understand that when
we are over there, we also contribute to the betterment of their infrastructure and daily lives. There were numerous times when
we’d request toys, clothes, and other items from our family members and support networks which we would turn around and donate to the kids. Or we would help with building and stocking a school. We aren’t only Soldiers, but statesmen as well and our actions have a great bearing on politics.
I’m heading back next year, and I’m thinking more and more he’s setting us up for the sequel to ‘Blackhawk Down’.

Last night MOE LANE commented that at least the speech was short, which I explained as coming from MAObama’s lack of interest in the War On Terror.

He has no interest in anything positive done by America in Iraq or Afghanistan, and uses the negative only as a way to criticize America. Therefore of course he fails to mention the schools built, the water systems built and repaired, etc.

There is no hope for a change in BIG BRObama’s personality.

Declaration of any kind of victory in the war on terror is impossible for democrats. This process would embolden more people to become terrorists in most of their minds. Similar to the arguement that not allowing the GZM will only breed more terrorists. Dems are stuck on this issue with no way out. I completely agree with Mark, it is entirely up the the GOP to show America all the good that has happened in Iraq and to honor our troops accordingly.

achievement. The word victory for the progressive left is more exclusively used when defeating anything Conservative or their real enemy “the people of the U.S.” Now if the military could help out with that, then maybe we would see a victory rally. However, they cannot understand what or why the the American soldier even does what he does because it is out of their realm. To have expected Obo to speak with any passion or pride when referring to the accomplishments in Iraq is delusional thinking. Even in the “good” war (Afghanistan), there will be no victory speeches should the U.S. be able to overcome the insurmountable odds before them (many of which are placed in the way by our own govt).

The O said this is not a victory lap. For the O, there can never be a victory for America any more, or for freedom from terrorism, tyranny and oppression. We can only assume that the example was set when Eric Holder filed suit against someone with the audacity to defend America on it’s southern border. If Obama catches anyone doing a ‘victory lap’, there will be hell to pay.

In principle, I agree, we did win a big victory. But a literal victory parade would be inappropriate. We still have 50,000 troops in Iraq and are knee deep fighting in Afghanistan. Our war isn’t over yet, not for our troops nor ourselves as a nation. This is a solemn victory, not a “finally the war is over” kind of moment as Obama framed it, but not really a joyous one either.

We just don’t seem to have the right terminology to describe “victory” in the Iraq War. Partly this is because different reasons at different times were given for the necessity of the war. The only irrefutable accomplishment is that Saddam Hussein and his two sons are dead; everything else is still open to debate.

…for Obama to deny the troops their ‘victory’. His only sop to the troops was to pledge to maintain their benefits, to perfunctorily thank them for their service and to say he and Sasha and Mahlia and Michelle will continue to provide photo ops.
Surge or no surge, Rumsfeld or Gates, Powell or Mullen, pro-war or anti-war, regardless, does anyone recall how many TENS OF THOUSANDS of U.S. KIA were expected in the initial assault?
The /US military performed admirably and heroically in Iraq and they defeated the enemy.

….at the Corner.

Mark states we should push for a declaration of victory and celebrate unquestioned victory. What exactly does the mean beyond a platitude? Neither this president nor the previous ever defined what victory in Iraq would look like. Yes, Saddam is gone (but there are a few more like him still skulking around) but Iraq is a complete mess with a barely functioning government and military, miserable conditions for its people (yes, far worse than before the war) and likely to descend into civil war in the near term. Iran is a looming threat and now stands as the only real power in that neighborhood. If we are to declare victory, someone needs to say what exactly that is (and it has to be better than “kick their asses” Tomasik ) Failure to heed the words of our first president regarding the avoidance of foreign entanglements, led to what many of us consider to be one of the biggest foreign policy blunders in our history.