We stare into the abyss today — the abyss that comes when a political party’s spine is removed and we stare down into the cavity . . . longingly . . . waiting . . . dreaming of what might have been.
Friends, I write this hoping the events I predict will not happen, but I suspect the events will happen. You need to understand what is at play today in Washington. There are two competing forces.
The first force is that of the Democrats and their unstoppable desire for a government shutdown. You read that right. The Democrats, not the Republicans, are desperate for a government shutdown. Barack Obama needs a government shutdown.
Everyone in Washington is fixated on the Myth of 1995. In the MythTM, nasty Republicans shut down Washington, DC, starving old people and children, denying passports to refugees from the crisis, and gunning down our soldiers in harm’s way because the government could not buy and ship bullets to respond. Yogi Bear also starved to death because no tourists with their picnic baskets could get into Jellystone.
In the MythTM, Bill Clinton was transcendent and triumphant. He outmaneuvered the GOP, reopened the government, and cruised to re-election vanquishing the GOP. Don’t believe me? Just watch the West Wing episode cementing the MythTM as fact.
In fact, I hear David Axelrod, Plouffe, and Jay Carney keep coming out of the White House bathroom red raced, sweaty, and slightly blind and the only thing left in the bathroom is a flatscreen running that episode over and over and some hand sanitizer.
It is the MythTM.
John Boehner, who was in Newt Gingrich’s leadership team, remembers the MythTM. He remembers how the failed GOP PR battle, Bob Dole’s betrayal, Gingrich’s ham fisted handling of the matter, etc. sabotaged the GOP. The GOP, being the stupid party, botched the PR campaign. So despite getting a balanced budget and welfare reform by forcing a shutdown and gaining seats in the Senate while holding their own in the House, John Boehner and the House GOP leadership have bought into the MythTM.
We are now left with the unstoppable force of the White House and Democrats wanting a shutdown impacting the malleable object that is the Republicans’ spine desperate to contort its way into a spin that it cut spending and kept Washington open.
The impact here is going to be huge. Let me tell you why.
Again, the White House and Democrats are desperate for a shutdown so Barack Obama can, like Bill Clinton in the MythTM, be transcendent and leader looking.
John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, and Mitch McConnell are desperate to not have a shutdown lest they get blamed and hurt in 2012.
The consequence of this will be Chuck Schumer in the Senate sensing the yellow growing down the spine of the GOP. The Democrats will draw a firm line in the sand daring the GOP to cross it. The GOP will, in turn, walk as far away from the line as possible.
Gone will be the defunding of Planned Parenthood.
Gone will be defunding of government abortions in the District of Columbia.
Gone will be the major spending cuts.
Gone will be virtually any fiscal discipline.
They will not even attempt to defund Obamacare.
The GOP will give the White House whatever it wants just so the GOP can avoid being blamed for a shutdown.
Hopefully someone — maybe the House GOP Freshmen and guys like DeMint, Lee, Paul, and Toomey — will recognize that 2011 is not 1995.
Voters want spending cuts. Voters are sympathetic to a conservative coalition hellbent on reining in Washington.
Barack Obama and the Democrats have misread voter sentiment throughout the last two years. There is nothing to indicate they will get it right this time. If the GOP stands up for spending cuts and budgetary reform, the Democrats may very well force a shutdown.
Already their friends in the media are beginning to regurgitate the MythTM and suggest it is the GOP, not the Democrats, who want the shutdown. What the media fails to see is that some of us do want a shutdown — hell, I want a shutdown — but Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, etc. will do everything in their power to prevent that from happening.
If a shutdown happens, it will be because the Democrats, more than the GOP, bought into the MythTM and the MythTM simply was what it was — a myth.
The GOP needs to fight for spending cuts and not roll over. Unfortunately, unless we keep the pressure on, I’m afraid the GOP will indeed roll over and do everything in their power to avoid a shutdown.
The GOP can win the PR battle if the government shuts down. They just don’t think they can.
And they’d rather good press than principle any day of the week.
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Is it time?
dforston (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 10:48AM EST (link)Is it time to flood the phone lines in DC to let them know they need to grow a spine?
There is never a bad time...
Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 10:54AM EST (link)…to call your representative and give him or her a piece of your mind.
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Understand
dforston (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 11:07AM EST (link)I understand.
But a concerted effort by a lot of activists would send a clear message.
Provoke This!!
granpasmurf Monday, February 28th at 5:40AM EST (link)the administration is afraid to even us the word “islam” for fear of provoking a terrorist retaliation and the Repubs are afraid to actually represent WE THE PEOPLE for fear of provoking a Dem PR retaliation.
Whether it is conservative voters or the United States of America, it’s about time someone WORRY ABOUT PROVOKING US!
618 days until 2012 elections.
I am provoked, Already!!
grammy1 Monday, February 28th at 9:27AM EST (link)Politicans are so full of fanciful talk and posturing while campaigning. I hope some of the freshmen will offer a breath of fresh air with a little fire.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. Edward R. Murrow
The people are way ahead of the GOP
soljerblue Monday, February 28th at 3:39PM EST (link)The Rasmussen Report for today found 58 percent of Americans would favor, or not mind, a government shutdown. If that ain’t some kind of a mandate for the GOP leadership to grow a pair, I don’t know what would be.
If Boehner/McConnell & Co. miss this opportunity — well, you figure it out.
The people are way ahead of the GOP
soljerblue Monday, February 28th at 3:39PM EST (link)The Rasmussen Report for today found 58 percent of Americans would favor, or not mind, a government shutdown. If that ain’t some kind of a mandate for the GOP leadership to grow a pair, I don’t know what would be.
If Boehner/McConnell & Co. miss this opportunity — well, you figure it out.
It's not likely
bmorgan53 Saturday, February 26th at 7:08PM EST (link)That the older “Violet” Republicans will ever grow or develop a spine. They cave at the first sign of resistance from the left or the first whiff of criticism from the left’s trolls – the MSM.
It's not likely
bmorgan53 Saturday, February 26th at 7:08PM EST (link)That the older “Violet” Republicans will ever grow or develop a spine. They cave at the first sign of resistance from the left or the first whiff of criticism from the left’s trolls – the MSM.
please mr boehner
edwyrd (Diary) Monday, February 28th at 5:53AM EST (link)why not SELECTIVE SHUTDOWN?
it would frame the debate, highlight assinine democrat regulation, spur job growth (without recessing the economy), and get popular support.
the debate in wisconsin is a PERFECT example of the concept of SELECTIVE SHUTDOWN.
christe is using it in new jersey with great effect (and a 52% approval rating) as “zero budget accounting”
c’mon you spinless wimps!
i will start on march 14th, our precinct committeeman day, and i will not shutup.
“but men are different, they propound mathmatical theorms in beleaguered cities, conduct metaphysical arguments in condemned cells, make jokes on scaffolds, discuss the last new poem while advancing to the walls of quebec and comb their hair at thermopylae. it is our nature!
—C.S Lewis, weight of glory
Eric, I am afraid you are correct...
Wubbies World (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 10:58AM EST (link)Our Republican Leadership in the House of representatives are spineless weasels.
I am afraid more purging needs to occur in the primaries, including some of the freshman who have already been co-oped.
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It's
Daniel Horowitz (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 10:59AM EST (link)like bringing a Lamar Alexander to a Chuck Schumer fight.
I'n other words, it's like Bringing in Steve Urkel to fight The Undertaker ina WWE Cage Match
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, February 26th at 12:15PM EST (link)The other guy is a street fighter and dirty to the core…whil Our guy is a scared little nerd
Thanks!
grammy1 Monday, February 28th at 9:45AM EST (link)Thanks for providing an old lady a good reason to belly laugh! It restarted my heart. Jeanie
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. Edward R. Murrow
Twas my pleasure Mamme...(Bowing with hat in hand) nt
AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, March 1st at 8:43PM EST (link)Shut it down !!!
massconservative Friday, February 25th at 11:00AM EST (link)I for one hope the shut it down. When the Dems and their water carriers in the formerly MSM want to “target” the Republicans for blame I hope Republicans stand up and point out the hypocrisy of these idiots supporting the Wisconsin and Indiana “fleebaggers” whose disappearing act has essentially shut the government down there and will force people out of their jobs.
Shut down!!
grammy1 Monday, February 28th at 9:42AM EST (link)We live with the “apathetic herds.” Shouting “We have no more money” is not being heard or understood, We have to stop new spending. You know what the wise say, “Action speaks louder than words.” Jeanie
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. Edward R. Murrow
How much?
dforston (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 11:06AM EST (link)how much money will we save with a government shutdown?
Can we shut it down until November of 2012?
55555
rickbull Friday, February 25th at 11:53PM EST (link)I like your attitude!
WE ARE THE 53% (who actually pay taxes).
I like YOUR attitude.
grammy1 Monday, February 28th at 9:59AM EST (link)I like people who quote smart, no, brilliant people! Joe McCarthy hurt a lot of innocent people and in the process the common sense he did have was overshadowed. You and Ann Coulter see the whole picture. Of course anything outside the realm of tunnel vision a liberal can’t accept. Sound bites and quickies, in the argumentative sense, seem to be the extent of their capacity to think. “Too much information” seems to be the prevalent battle cry. Jeanie
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. Edward R. Murrow
555 - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, February 28th at 10:04AM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
E-Mail This Essay To Your Republican Representatives
Ausonius (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 11:12AM EST (link)One easy way to affect the process: e-mail this to your Republican representatives, along with a warning that you will work to replace them, donate money to unseat them, etc., if they refuse to uphold the $100 billion dollar cut (which is already 60), repealing MAObamaCare, etc.
Let the anger flow!
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You sure it's the spine these guys are missing?
tankertodd (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 11:13AM EST (link)I was thinking of another body part(s).
Like Chris Christie says, you do the job you were elected to do and not worry about reelection.
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Growing parts
grammy1 Monday, February 28th at 10:07AM EST (link)It is possible to grow the neccessary parts. It’s a lot lke changing a light bulb. You have to REALLY want ‘em. I had to and did, founding two successful businesses as a single mother – many moons ago. The nice thing about hybrid parts is once grown you gottem’ for life! The big question for the hybrid carrier is, “Right or left???”
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. Edward R. Murrow
The worry is not re-election
mspector (Diary) Tuesday, March 1st at 12:38AM EST (link)I absolutely agree that the GOP leadership needs to stay the course. As Gov Walker is showing, it isn’t easy but it can be done.
But tanker, this doesn’t have to do with the re-election of GOP Congressmen. It’s about whether Obama gets re-elected. His hope is to campaign by counter-punching, and he’s pretty good at the passive/aggressive style.
Obama plays poker; if anyone knows the lingo of the game, he’s a “rock”. One of the characteristics of a “rock” is that if he gets into a hand that doesn’t play out, he becomes a “calling station”, that is, he just calls the opponent’s bet and hopes for a better card to hit the table. That’s what Obama is doing here: fending off the GOP and hoping that something changes in his favor. At some point it becomes a matter of putting in a bet that makes it too expensive for him to call.
That’s where we are now. The leadership needs to define the path and stick to it. $100B in cuts; no increase in the debt ceiling; no tax increases (didn’t we settle that with the “deal” in December?). It’s a simple, straightforward if painful message but if the voters think we mean it and that we see a way out of all this, they will respond. If we show weakness at the moment of crisis, they will stick with the evil they know.
“Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.” (Thomas Paine)
“A friend of mine was asked to a costume ball a short time ago. He slapped some egg on his face and went as a liberal economist.” (Ronald Reagan)
The US people will back the GOP...if they show spine!
fpete13527 (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 11:20AM EST (link)Shut it down!!
With regards to a shutdown, the entire sewage bloviating will come from the Socialist Dem Senators (IE all the Dem Senators) and the leftist media.
Both are completely looked at as Bozos at this point other than to them selves. They are only relevant to their own self licking ice cream cone world. All the GOP has to do IS NOT LISTEN.
Even back in 1995, when there was NO WHERE near the support for the right as there is now, they would have been fine if they just stuck to their guns. The end result actually showed in the GOP favor anyway!!!
SHUT IT DOWN!!!!
I’m back on the phones and also making it clear up through the REC channels.
The kind of Republican that will SHUT DOWN now is the kind we want IN.
The kind that will NOT shut down now is the kind we want OUT!!!
With the support
jomo2009 Friday, February 25th at 11:23AM EST (link)the Wisconsin GOP is getting for their fortitude (67% of the public is in favor of Republican actions) now is the time for their Washington counterparts to press that advantage. The issue of greedy public sector unions and urgency for debt reduction has now been nationalized. Yes, the risks are great; but so are the rewards.
The Risk Might NOT Be That Great
edintexas Monday, February 28th at 10:59AM EST (link)According to a recent article (either Washington Times or Examiner) polling shows there are more people who would blame the Dems for a shutdown than the Republicans. And the Clinton “victory” from the previous shutdown resulted in the Republicans keeping control of the House. A Pyrrhic victory, if even a victory other than in the MSM pages and TV news.
Vision
grammy1 Monday, February 28th at 11:03AM EST (link)I think you are right. Sometimes a big stick is just not enough. Jeanie
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. Edward R. Murrow
amen, and I would even turn that around and say that "blame" is not the word
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, February 28th at 11:22AM EST (link)Credit might be the word!
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Perception is 98% reality.
azred (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 11:27AM EST (link)The media will ensure this and pay no heed to anything that does not support the perception. Controlling the message is power. Because of the Progressive State Controlled Media, the Democrats continue to wield a great deal of power, no matter what they do or how they do it.
Sad state of the union.
What if the media was 50/50 fair?
Common_Cents (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 1:02PM EST (link)Geez, the left would be exposed for the frauds they are.
A man can dream can’t he? That’s where it starts.
Alternative media (blogs, talk radio etc..)is slowly grinding away building infrastructure but our side really needs a strategy on taking on the lame stream media. You read stories about it dying. Hogwash. It is still a freakin gorilla in the room that brainwashes over half of America.
While alternative media is important, tackling the lame stream media is critical. I see this as building a third party vs. taking over an existing party infrastructure. Which one are we advocating?
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
Dreams
grammy1 Monday, February 28th at 11:04AM EST (link)Here’s to hoping your dreams come true! Cheers!
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. Edward R. Murrow
This is the issue, right here.
Bill S (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 1:57PM EST (link)The media will paint the GOP as the culprits, and the uninitiated masses will believe them.
I don’t disagree that it’s the right thing to do, but we’re going to suffer for it. The politicians aren’t the ones who need to see the letters, it’s your friends and neighbors. THEY need to know that the Democrats are the issue, because the newspapers and television news ain’t gonna do it.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
The media is in on the game...
writeblock Friday, February 25th at 11:50PM EST (link)It’s playing up the last shutdown to put fear into the GOP and weaken its resolve–and it’s working. It doesn’t matter if it’s a myth. The response by us should be–Go to Hell. The country comes first, before all else. Our guys should be willing to put their careers on the line for this one. It’s too important and too crucial.
Except the so cal "Objective Press" don't have a lock on perception any more. If they did, Obamacare would be the greatest thing since sliced bread
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, February 26th at 12:26PM EST (link)and President Obama would be the best preside4nt EVA!!!
Exactly!
edintexas Monday, February 28th at 11:02AM EST (link)The lock is gone. And when the MSM did have it, in the last shutdown, how badly did the Republicans fare in the next elections? Not too bad. They kept control of the House for how many years, before they blew it?
The GOP needs to act on principle, and every event like this is their last chance
Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 11:34AM EST (link)The narrative is simple:
1) We’re broke.
2) Democrats don’t seem to care, as evidenced by Obama’s budget and their behavior for the past two years.
3) They would rather shut down the government than rein it in.
4) Someone has to do something, and we are the only adults in Washington.
If you want America to become Greece, vote Democrat. If you want to face and solve serious problems like an adult, support conservative Republicans.
Again, simple as that.
You forgot the most important point,
The_Gadfly (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 12:16PM EST (link)0) We didn’t shut it down, they did. We passed a budget, they blocked it.
Both right on target.
grammy1 Monday, February 28th at 11:09AM EST (link)Keep it simple, very simple. Only bad thing about any attemp at communicating with Dems is you gotta’ coo a little and wear a revealing dress to get their attention.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. Edward R. Murrow
They'll never learn!
swamphermit (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 11:41AM EST (link)The media will try to make them look bad no matter what! Surely there is a way to include one month Social Security and welfare payments in the temp budget they keep talking about, put it on top and let the Dems refuse it … then cut what they have promised and let the media try to spin it!
For God's Sake
philhoganjr (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 11:42AM EST (link)Why aren’t any of our elected representatives out there saying this publicly? Is our party that inept that we simply don’t even know how to get out in front of something like this?
I want to hear our elected officials call the President a coward who refuses to lead on budgetary matters. I want to hear our elected officials say that the Liberal party (not the Democrat party) is playing politics with a government shutdown. I want to hear Erick’s pontification floated by every elected GOP official, up and down the ladder.
One problem...the following will forward the MSM, Democrat Meme
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We are more assuredly doomed by the Republican Leadership
Tbone (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 11:54AM EST (link)than by the Democrats. These guys would rather be “Members of Congress” than Americans.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Byron York Has a Good Article on The Myth(tm) Today
IJB Friday, February 25th at 12:19PM EST (link)It can be read here.
It should be on everybody’s required reading list today.
Meanwhile, I’m not going to ‘borrow trouble’ and assume they cave yet – I’ll worry about that when it actually starts to look like they will cave.
there is some update on hot air where supposedly
earlgrey (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 12:21PM EST (link)Boehner is shaing his strategy with Bill Kristol. I couldn’t bear to read it, as there has been so much male cow dung heaped on us this week by the dems that I have had my fill for the week.
Erick covered some very good points in this post,
The_Gadfly (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 12:31PM EST (link)but he left out an important one that was covered by Byron York in today’s issue of The Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/02/why-gop-shouldnt-fear-government-shutdown). It wasn’t so much at the shut down that they got snookered, it was at the State of the Union speech which followed. He setup the GOP by bringing in a hero from the Murrah Federal Building and got the GOP to cheer for him, before turning it around on them about the shutdown. That he flat out lied about who really shut down government was only par for the course.
If The Big 0 tries that, the whole Republican contingent has to do the Joe Wilson, whether it meets decorum standards or not.
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jmt1984 Friday, February 25th at 12:33PM EST (link)I do think this is what the ppl in Nov. wanted…very different than 1995, just look at the economic mood.
http://jmt1984.blogspot.com
We need to be the backstop that won't move behind the GOP
Finrod (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 12:36PM EST (link)We need to let the GOP know that they’re supposed to represent US, and that if they will stand up to the Democrats, we will back them up the whole way.
Conversely, we need to make them more afraid of us than the Democrats, by letting them know that if they cave, Every Last One Of Their Sorry Butts will be primaried.
If we do this, we can win this fight.
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
I don't remember the battle in the Revolutionary war but there was a Revolutionary War General,
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, February 26th at 12:48PM EST (link)( I believe it was Gates) who won a battle in the southern campaign I believe in NC where he placed the militia who were notorious for stampeding in a fight right in front of continental army regulars who were behind them with Bayonets leveled to face them with a choice…
Either stand up and fight the enemy…or turn and run into the bayonets of your allies in your panic.
So instead of a backstop, I suggest a wall of sharp pointy things like declared primary challengers for any of them who won’t stand and fight!
Not Gates...
dmccracken Monday, February 28th at 8:54AM EST (link)Gates was probably still running north from his last battle when General Nathanial Green won the battle at Cowpens that you refer to here.
Otherwise, you on absolutely on point!
you're right...I think it was Green...I knew it started with a G...HAH
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, February 28th at 10:28AM EST (link)Gates was a buffoon as I recall
Gates was...
dmccracken Monday, February 28th at 11:10AM EST (link)very full of himself and self-promoting. Kind of like the Agitator in Chief.
yeah...he's as responsible for Arnold's betrayal as Arnolds wife
AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, March 1st at 8:40PM EST (link)I believe…Up until Arnold’s leg was smashed at Saratoga, He was a hero in the North East Campaign and Gates took all the credit.
He Benched Arnold at Saratoga though Arnold defied him and won the battle by showing up at the crucial point of the battle as the continental army faltered.
Definitely started the ball rolling
dmccracken Thursday, March 3rd at 11:24AM EST (link)You have a very good point. Arnold’s betrayal was driven by his perception of great injustice against him in that instance, and in the instance of Congress promoting more junior generals over him. Probably a host of other factors as well, but Gate’s was definitely culpable.
Primary time! nt
bjwilson83 (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 1:01PM EST (link)A few words which can strike fear and terror into the heart of any incumbent legislator: “you will face a well organized primary challenge”.
It's the President who shuts down the Gov't, not Congress
timelyrenewed (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 1:35PM EST (link)A government shutdown is effectuated by the President vetoing appropriations bills passed by the Congress. It is Presidential action which shuts down the government, not the Congress. We need to keep hammering this point home. http://www.timelyrenewed.com
So what was plan B?
writeblock Friday, February 25th at 1:57PM EST (link)They knew the Dems controlled the other chamber. They had to know the WH might not budge. So why their consternation? Where’s their strategy? Where are all these “tricks” Boehner bragged he had up his sleeve?
We must have a media solution
jerry39 (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 2:01PM EST (link)I have been lulled, as maybe others have, into overconfidence that the media’s impotence was on the rise and incurable. Surely, Fox, RS, all the “new media” has made a positive impact. It is also true that BO overstepped so drastically and completetly that the mainstream media was unable even with their best efforts to keep him and the democrat majorities intact.
Yet, they are not impotent. They still shape the opinions of a great swath of America at the margins, they still shape Washington DC more than anywhere else, and they are still much better at attacking the innocent than defending the guilty. And our side still does not have a solution or even an adequte plan for using the airtime they do give us. I am witnessing it right here as my local newspaper runs pro-union material 10/1.
I assume roughly 25% of the poulation is liberal to the core, 40% conservative to the core – and 35% lean this way or that. The media controls a big chunk of that 35% at the margins,
So yes – collective bargaining for publlic employees is asinine, the union method is thugish, the Wisconsin officials are dilatory and cowardly, planned parenthood is pure evil, and yes the Democrats do want the government to shutdown – but if 25 – 30% of the population dont know that and will never find out – then we lose.
Elections do have consequences – but so does a liberal media. I belong to a tea party that brings in 40-60 people from a township that represents less than 1/3 of the county. I’d estimate at least a dozen such groups in within the greater Cincinnati area. Taking over commitees has been huge. Putting forth candidates has been huge, Being vocal with our reps has been huge.
But, there is also real power in having local groups that acting in concert could reach out to huge swaths of the entire population in short order. Tea Party’s need to produce solid talking points to counteract the media – and disperse that to everyone else – by hand delivery to mailboxes. It should be done on a weekly basis as a direct attack on media distortion.
It is not just the democrats that we have on run – it is the media. If we let up they will rise again an bring the democrats with them.
Do NOT leave anything in mailboxes!
myron_j_poltroonian Monday, February 28th at 12:48PM EST (link)It’s a violation of federal law. One that I’m certain our head pursuer of (certain) violators of the law will vigorously pursue. Publicly and persistently aided and abetted by the Limp Stream Press.
There could not be a better time to shut down
jtlfromfredmd Friday, February 25th at 2:03PM EST (link)if that is what it takes. The people of this country have had enough. What other evidence is there to dispute this? We keep kicking the proverbial can down the road (in this case, confrontation) but eventually all of this has to come to a head.
PR Battle
myoda176 Friday, February 25th at 2:11PM EST (link)Erick: It seems to me that since the Republicans swept into office in November, everyone is always speculating on the results of certain votes before the votes actually occur. Comments are made and then blown out of proportion and everyone who voted for them has their blood pressure go up. I know mine has a few times. However, I’ve noticed that when it came down to the actual vote, the Republicans seem to be doing what needs to be done and all the speculations turn out to be completely false. In light of this trend, I still follow the opinion pieces that are called journalism, but I take them with a grain of salt. Words are just words, but actions always speak louder. No one can deny what the President is if they only follow his actions instead of what he says on camera or in soundbites.
With this thought in mind, how much of what is happening is actual opinion instead of what will occur? Since I’ve noticed this, I’ve started giving the Republicans a lot more credit. They DID vote to cancel Planned Parenthood funding. They DID vote in the House and Senate to get rid of Obamacare. (They only reason it didn’t pass the Senate is the number of votes, but they still got it to come up for the vote under Harry Reid with all Republicans backiing the repeal.) They are actively trying to make cuts where they can and actually I’ve been impressed that the conversation in Washington has changed from how much the governement should grow, to how much the government should cut. No matter if the votes pass in the Senate or not, the Republicans are making an impact and working on what they should.
With this said, I also think we have a responsibility to still let them know where we stand so that they do not fall back into the big government mode from all the negative PR. They deserve and need our support so that people like Scott Walker in Wisconsin know that we as voters have them covered.
Since this is the first time in my life I’ve ever seen the disgrace that the Democrats are continually brining down on themselves (for example: all the Democrats in the states running scared – literally), perhaps we ought to cut the Republicans some slack and watch for their actions before worrying about the potential issues that may come. I guess it’s just something to consider before we throw in the towel on them already.
92 Repubs failed to support amendment 104
Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 3:40PM EST (link)proposed by Marsha Blackburn of TN earlier this week that would have reduced non-security spending by 5.5% and Legislative Branch appropriations by 11% (EE wrote about Cantor’s lack of leadership on this). As for the 147 Repubs who voted Aye, they’re going to have to do more than just show up and vote. They must convince the others to do the right thing at every opportunity. Until they do, I won’t give them any slack.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)
Kowalski. Not all my calls to my congressman are complaints.
Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 3:44PM EST (link)I called today to thank him for supporting the amendment, encouraged him to hang tough on the issues, and asked the staffer to read this diary and pass it on to my rep.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)
Predictions:
Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 3:54PM EST (link)A) The Senate will either kill the spending bill altogether or send it back to the House with most if not all of the spending cuts restored.
B) The House will restore said cuts and return it to the Senate.
C) The Democrats will shut down the Government.
D) The GOP will hold firm and eventually prevail.
E) The Voices of Doom here will take credit for ‘forcing’ the Republicans to ‘grow a backbone’.
The House CR and the Senate CR will go to Conference.
carolina Friday, February 25th at 5:47PM EST (link)If they can reach agreement in the Conference……. the agreed Conference ‘compromise’ goes back to the House and Senate for a vote. Assuming it gets past each Chamber…… the CR goes to the President for signature.
Bills DO die in Conference if no agreement can be reached. I do not expect that to be true in this case, but I do expect EVERYONE to be unhappy. I don’t expect an Obama veto.
It may not be as clear as you like as to which party is ‘responsible’ for any govt shutdown. Emergency CR’s can be passed quickly for multiple short-term continued spending. This is why Boehner is letting it be know that even the short-term CR’s will have some spending reductions.
There is going to be a lot of “playing chicken” between the House and the Senate….. as they go through this process. Both sides will be ‘proving’ that they are doing what their constituents want. Political pressure by the grass roots will be important. I, personally, think the 6 retiring Senators are the biggest problem. They have ‘nothing to lose’.
Don't need a shutdown to press budget concerns
paint_it_red (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 5:23PM EST (link)So if the Democrats want a shutdown for political gain, it does not sound like a shutdown is actually going to help us press the needed budget reforms.
We have had up to this point some real important symbolic measures and some important measures taken whose primary impact is not fiscal. But until entitlement reform is tackled, the budget is completely screwed. Everything else is just meaningless posturing.
Social security, medicare, medicaid, unemployment all need major reforming. Start with the biggest budget items, then go down the list. The only real safety net is a thriving economy with low unemployment.
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There will be no shutdown. Here is Boehner's 2 week extension plan
carolina Friday, February 25th at 7:16PM EST (link)House Republicans on Friday unveiled legislation that would cut $4 billion in government spending by embracing proposals from President Obama.
The House Appropriations Committee on Friday unveiled a two-week spending bill to avoid a government shutdown after March 4. The bill cuts $1.24 billion by terminating programs targeted for cuts in Obama’s 2012 budget request.
The bill would find the other $2.7 billion in savings by defunding earmarks.
From the Hill dot com
Read the entire article…….. and weep. But, this is reality.
There will be no shutdown. Here is Boehner's 2 week extension plan
carolina Friday, February 25th at 7:16PM EST (link)House Republicans on Friday unveiled legislation that would cut $4 billion in government spending by embracing proposals from President Obama.
The House Appropriations Committee on Friday unveiled a two-week spending bill to avoid a government shutdown after March 4. The bill cuts $1.24 billion by terminating programs targeted for cuts in Obama’s 2012 budget request.
The bill would find the other $2.7 billion in savings by defunding earmarks.
From the Hill dot com
Read the entire article…….. and weep. But, this is reality.
So what happens in 2 weeks?
earlgrey (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 8:09PM EST (link)Everyone is calling this a loss for the Rs, but I have mixed feelings. We are taking some heat for the anti-Union stance, and I worry if they get too aggressive on the FY11 budget we lose credibility for attacking FY 12.
On the other hand, I didn’t vote for a reduction of a mere $4 Billion. I am starting to lose hope in these Rs.
Let's send a link to this column to every
capeconservative Friday, February 25th at 8:15PM EST (link)Republican in Congress – ask them to be sure to also read the comments from Jack and Jill America! Let them know we will stand by them if they STAND STRONG!
Republican state legislators in Wisconsin have received strong support from all across the country – NOW IS THE HOUR! If Republicans in Congress decide to go wishy-washy, we will have lost a great opportunity to SHOW EVERYONE just who is dedicated to saving America and who is dedicated to DESTROYING our country!!!!!
NO CAVING, MR. SPEAKER!!!! STAY STRONG!!!! And I urge ALL Republicans to show the country and the world that there are some ADULTS serving in Congress – some with COMMON SENSE who realize it is not going to be an easy row to hoe…but are determined that America’s future is worth the effort!
Boehner is hopeless.
writeblock Friday, February 25th at 11:37PM EST (link)The first thing he did when he became Speaker was to show how nice and fair he was gonna be to the opposition. Ever the gentleman. Today Ryan made a plea to the WI Dems–We’re all friends here, can’t we just play nice. –No, we can’t! We’re in a civil war, dummy!
There you go again with the taunts
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Boehner and Ryan voted to defund Planned Parenthood last week, right? That was an act of war. nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, February 27th at 11:54AM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
After watching Miych and the boys in the lame duck session..why would anyone expect anything different
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, February 26th at 12:03PM EST (link)I know…I know…There I go again….I just don’t understand…we need to appeal to center to win election…I’m just a purist and an unreasonable hardhead who just doesn’t understand, “Politics is the art of compromise”
Of course we’ll be able to explain to everyone in 2012 that we really mean it this time and once we put Mitt at the Top of the ticket since it’s his turn it will be easy to explain Mitt Gare away as we try to repeal Obamacare while simultaneously appealing to the mushy middle
Mah...Spelling Corrections..."MITCH" and "ROMNEYCARE" nt
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, February 26th at 12:05PM EST (link)$4B new GOP proposal - are you kidding me?
KC (Diary) Sunday, February 27th at 11:44AM EST (link)The $4B is actually $1.2B because $2.8B is the earmark elimination that both sides had already agreed to months ago.
If agreed to and passed, the proposal would fund Government until March 18.
Then what?
Will Boenher get *really* brave, bold, and daring and go for a whole $1.5B in cuts for the next two weeks?
Why has Boehner assumed that the dreaded Government shutdown is the automatic default and that it’s *HIS* job to avoid it?
“Read my lips – we *WILL* cut spending.”
Just an ‘ole country boy from Missouri
I played on a
23rdamerical Monday, February 28th at 1:36PM EST (link)high school baseball team with a backup pitcher…if he wasn’t actually on the mound, he pulled against the team! He wanted to be given credit for all our wins individually…Lib/Left/Dems are like that! The coach got rid of this player!
Fund gov month to month and humilate Obama
Juggernaut (Diary) Monday, February 28th at 6:18PM EST (link)That’s a better solution than caving in or forcing a shut down. Month to month makes Obama look foolish and incapable of being bipartisan as well it exposes his true agenda to fund lousy pet projects and spend far more than he campaigned on. Its time to call this man out and continue pushing him till Obama caves. By the end of spring is polling numbers will be down and he’ll go for budget cuts which aren’t enough btw. Obama and his minions think polls give them power to say NO, drive down the numbers and keep pushing even after he caves so the public won’t forget.
The GOP needs to stand firm and use the media a bull whip to slap Obama on the back like the stubborn inexperienced mule he is. So long as the angry left back him with lies and rants the fight shall go on. But if the GOP use media time to slam the true facts in the media and democrats faces then public sentiment stays with the GOP.
Way too many are against Obama and the liberal liar machine so truth is the best option including calling the media out as liars. As well I think its time for the Tea Party to focus on media lies and protest the media companies in their own back yard. Nothing scares the media more than negative publicity from another media company. So the solution is protest at NBC and MSNBC while ignoring ABC and CBS. Use truth as the weapon of choice, avoid the hateful signs and simply demand the media support the majority of this nation and stop lying and conning Americans. Its a well known fact the MSM conspire together as is, so its time to call them out and push their revenues down as the public tune out. Money is the ultimate punishment.
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism – please feel free to use is as often as possible…….it will kill his campaign.
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.
You know, yesterday I would have disagreed
runner12 (Diary) Monday, February 28th at 6:47PM EST (link)with you. But I was listening to Dick Morris on Hannity while I was driving home from work today and he suggested a similar approach. Think of it as “nickeling and diming” the Dems to death. A cut her, a little cut there.
Make the budget front and center every single month until Obama and his minions cave. It is not a bad idea if the Repubs will gain a backbone and follow through with it.
My only hope is that this is some kind of strategy by the Repubs like Morris suggested rather than a cave in to the Dems.
Exactly, give the child Obama his allowance
Juggernaut (Diary) Monday, February 28th at 7:04PM EST (link)each month and meter his spending. Liberalism is a child that will never grow up and learn so this not only serves as punishment and gives the public what we want but it continuously exposes Obama’s lack of leadership.
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism – please feel free to use is as often as possible…….it will kill his campaign.
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.
Didn't Boehner say that was what he was going to do every two weeks? - nt
myron_j_poltroonian Monday, February 28th at 7:08PM EST (link)Here's hoping...
tojoma Tuesday, March 1st at 10:00PM EST (link)the myth does not live on.