Multiple sources tell me the National Rifle Association is planning to endorse liberal Harry Reid against pro-gun champion Sharron Angle.
Two weeks ago, I told you about the carveout the NRA received in exchange for their support for the DISCLOSE ACT deal.
Then this week, RedState broke the story of the “gag order” the NRA issued to members of its Board on the Kagan nomination.
Now, I’m getting credible reports that the NRA is leaning toward endorsing Harry Reid, even though the NRA is finally saying it will score a vote on Kagan — something that was not a sure thing.
Why would they do this? Why would they go out of their way to protect a Senator who has demonstrated a repeated hostility to the Second Amendment in his votes and his leadership?
Well, I thought perhaps the NRA carveout in the DISCLOSE Act might be the answer. But, there is more. It turns out, Reid secured a $61 million earmark for a gun range in Clark County, Nevada.
NRA members were recently treated to a three-page spread in the American Rifleman about a visit to Nevada by Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox to “thank” Reid for the earmark. The article even includes a cliché picture of Reid cutting a ribbon with a gigantic pair of scissors. (Every good porker has his own giant pair of gold earmark scissors.) More here.
Here is a video of the event from Reid’s youtube site.
At 3:25, you can hear LaPierre touting Reid’s record on guns saying, “I also want to thank you, Senator, for your support every day for the Second Amendment and for the rights of American gun owners. “
The American Rifleman article also commends Reid’s Second Amendment record noting, “His dedication to this project is just one of the ways Sen. Reid has demonstrated his support for gun owners and the Second Amendment.”
Well, that’s all very nice. What politician representing a pro-gun red state wouldn’t want Wayne LaPierre to come out for a personal photo op at their earmark ribbon cutting.
But, here is the problem. Reid has not supported the Second Amendment “every day.” Or ever.
Reid has a lifetime rating of “F” from Gun Owners of America (who Ron Paul once called “the only no-compromise gun lobby in Washington”). GOA is actively supporting the 100% pro-gun Republican nominee, Sharron Angle, in her campaign to unseat Harry Reid.
But if you don’t believe GOA, see for yourself below the fold. Then call (800) 392-VOTE (8683) before it is too late and make the NRA knows they’d be betraying second amendment voters by endorsing Harry Reid.
Below are just a few of the votes that demonstrate Reid’s longstanding hostility to guns and the Second Amendment. Not included in this list is the long list of consistent and active support for anti-gun nominees to the Federal Judiciary and to high level cabinet posts. The reason I did not include anti-gun nominees is because he supported every last one of them.
June 28, 1991. Vote No. 115. Voted for a 5 day waiting period for handgun purchases.
October 21, 1993. Vote 325. Voted to eliminate the Army Civilian Marksmanship Program. Only the most fringe anti-gun Senators voted for the amendment.
November 19, 1993. Vote 385. Allow states to impose waiting periods over and above the 5 days waiting period required under the Brady Bill.
November 19, 1993. Vote 386. Voted to eliminate he 5-year sunset in the Brady Bill.
November 19, 1993. Vote 387. Voted to close off debate on the Brady Bill.
November 19, 1993. Vote 390. Voted to close off debate on the Brady Bill.
November 20, 1993. Vote 394. Voted for the Brady Bill, which imposed a 5-business-day waiting period before purchasing a handgun.
August 25, 1994. Vote 294. Voted to close off debate on the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on so-called “assault weapons.”
August 25, 1994. Vote 295. Voted for the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on so-called “assault weapons.”
April 17, 1996. Vote 64. Voted to expand the statute of limitations for paperwork violations in National Firearms Act from 3 years to 5 years.
June 27, 1996. Vote 178. Voting to destroy 176,000 M-1 Garand rifles from World War II, and 150 million rounds of 30 caliber ammunition, rather than giving them to the Federal Civilian Marksmanship program.
September 12, 1996. Vote 287. Voted to spend $21.5 million for a study on putting “taggants” in black and smokeless gunpowder.
September 12, 1996. Vote 290. Voted to make it a Federal crime to possess a gun within 1,000 yards of a school.
May 12, 1999. Vote 111. Voted to give the Treasury Department expansive new authority to regulate and keep records on gun shows and their participants, and criminalize many intrastate firearms transactions.
May 13, 1999. Vote 116. Voted to ban the importation of ammunition clips that can hold more than 10 rounds.
May 14, 1999. Vote 119. Voted to criminalize internet advertisements to sell legal firearms in a legal manner.
May 18, 1999. Vote 122. Voted to for Mandatory triggerlocks.
May 20, 1999. Vote 133. Voted to create new Federal regulation of pawn shops handling of guns.
May 20, 1999. Vote 134. Voted to give the Treasury Department expansive new authority to regulate and keep records on gun shows and their participants, and criminalize many intrastate firearms transactions. The vote was 50-50, with Vice President Gore casting the tie-breaking vote.
May 20, 1999. Vote 140. Voted for the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a package of gun control measures.
July 29, 1999. Vote 224. Voted to close debate on the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a package of gun control measures.
February 2, 2000. Vote 4. Voted to make firearms manufacturers and distributors’ debts nondischargeable in bankruptcy if they were sued because they unknowingly sold guns to individuals who used the gun in a crime. 68 Senators voted against Reid’s position, including 17 Democrats including Bryan of Nevada.
March 2, 2000. Vote 27. Voted to say that school violence was due to the fact that Congress “failed to pass reasonable, common-sense gun control measures” and call for new gun ownership restrictions on the anniversary of the Columbine shootings.
March 2, 2000. Vote 28. Voted to say that school violence was due to the fact that Congress “failed to pass reasonable, common-sense gun control measures” and call for new gun ownership restrictions on the anniversary of the Columbine shootings (reconsideration of vote 27).
March 2, 2000. Vote 32. Voted to use Federal taxpayer funds to hand out anti-gun literature in schools and to run anti-gun public service announcements.
April 6, 2000. Vote 64. Voted for a gun control package including new onerous restrictions on gun shows.
April 7, 2000. Vote 74. Voted against an amendment to provide for the enforcement of existing gun laws in lieu of new burdensome gun control mandates.
May 16, 2000. Vote 100. Voted to commend the participants of the so-called “Million Mom March” for their demand for more Federal restrictions on firearms ownership, and to urge the passage of strict gun control measures.
May 17, 2000. Vote 102. Vote to overturn the ruling of the chair that the Daschle amendment (commending the participants of the so-called “Million Mom March” for their demand for more Federal restrictions on firearms ownership, and to urge the passage of strict gun control measures) was out of order.
May 17, 2000. Vote 103. Voted against an amendment stating “the right of each law-abiding United States citizen to own a firearm for any legitimate purpose, including self-defense or recreation, should not be infringed.”
May 17, 2000. Vote 104. Voted for an amendment commending the participants of the so-called “Million Mom March” for their demand for more Federal restrictions on firearms ownership, and to urge the passage of strict gun control measures.
February 26, 2004. Vote 17. Voted for mandatory triggerlocks.
March 2, 2004. Vote 25. Voted for Federal regulation of gun shows.
July 28, 2005. Vote 207. Voted for mandatory triggerlocks.
March 5, 2009. Vote 83. Voted against a ban on the United Nations imposing taxes on American citizens after France and other world leaders proposed a global tax on firearms.
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Steve Maley
Caleb Howe
It sounds as if the NRA has been assimilated
smagar (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 8:05AM EST (link)Food for thought, though. Perhaps the NRA has reasoned that Reid’s going to lose anyway. In that case, by openly supporting him, they can burnish their bipartisan creds.
Possible? I’m looking for an explanation for this besides the NRA having been assimilated by the Obama Administration.
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
doesn't matter. there is no excuse for this, and I
avgjo (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 8:13AM EST (link)believe they will suffer, membership-wise.
You really gotta wonder, though. Biden making the comments he’s making. Obama still trying to push healthscare (don’t let the recent polls fool you; when election season comes around, and people are reminded, the unpopularity will probably hit all-time highs). Democrats saying that the economy has recovered. And now this.
These people remind of that movie ‘Downfall’; they were having balls and Hitler was plotting victory even as the Soviets were in Berlin.
Eros tyrannos…
Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.
If anything could save Reid...
mustango (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 9:43AM EST (link)…an NRA endorsement would do it. They’ve already been weaving the narrative about how extreme Angle supposedly is. Can you imagine the hay they could make with “Sharon Angle: Too Radical Even for the NRA”?
I’m just having trouble dealing with the notion that LaPierre could suddenly be this stupid.
“I just miss — I miss being anonymous.” — Barack Obama
I fully sympathize, Mr. President. I miss you being anonymous too.
NRA=AARP
GenEarly Friday, July 2nd at 1:10PM EST (link)or maybe the NRA is “Too Big to Fail”. Don’t be surprised, it’s every man (organization) for himself (themselves) as the ship (USA) sinks.
These organizations are run by individuals who are covering their backsides and will cut deals to accommodate the new reality of the obamanation.
Is this some kind of a joke?
badgerbyte Thursday, July 1st at 11:16AM EST (link)If I find out this is in fact true, the NRA will have lost me forever and I’m a 4th generation NRA member as well as my five Bothers. I’m going to forward this to them as well. We need to find out about this ASAP! I guess Obama has promised the NRA whatever he promised AARP for endorsing this chit healthcare. This is unbelievable and again if true totally unacceptable.
Trust me, badgerbyte,
Tanggor (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 2:58PM EST (link)it’s true.
As a member, I got that issue of American Rifleman.
I saw the article, and the photo-op that senior NRA officers had with “This war is lost” Harry.
It felt like watching an old-style Disney film and having it jump into a hard-core porn scene out of the blue.
This makes three betrayals in as many weeks. It is time for the NRA and my money to part company.
“It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.” – George Washington
NRA Backing Reid
wasadoc Thursday, July 1st at 3:19PM EST (link)If they do indeed back that piece of crap, they will get no more of my money. I can spend it better, elsewhere.
Reid & NRA
cactusbob Thursday, July 1st at 5:22PM EST (link)I just called the 800 number and after 15 minutes of waiting, I talked to Miranda (like the warning). She told me that no endorsements had been discussed yet, but she would not assure me that Reid wouldn’t be endorsed. I told her that I had abandoned NRA when they supported C.A.R.A. (government land grab) several years ago, when few NRA members knew about that position. But if NRA endorses Reid, everyone will hear about it and they might as well close up shop. She had obviously heard from many callers about this, so keep ‘em coming.
Just joined GOA & will not renew NRA membership. nt
trutexan Friday, July 2nd at 7:40AM EST (link)I was anti-Obama before it was cool.
Supporting Harry Reid
chabsentia Friday, July 2nd at 10:59AM EST (link)Huh. Why would a large organization endorse somebody they thought was going to lose unless they thought the endorsement would help that person win it? The NRA is apparently pimping for Reid because he built a gun range. Perhaps he convinced them that he is turning the corner.So many anti gun votes and one gun range equal an endorsement?Call the 800 number given and leave a comment. You dont need to talk to a staff member and it is just recorded. When finished recording then just push the # key.
Membership drive
clarencedebarrows Saturday, July 3rd at 2:09PM EST (link)I just received an “NRA Membership Card” which would be activated upon my joining the organization. I copied this article, wrapped it around the card and the paperwork they sent telling them that I was about to join (which I was) until I saw this article. I returned their “invitation”in the postage paid envelope they provided.
NRA shoots self in foot, again
tngal (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 8:12AM EST (link)First the AARP screws up with their support of the health care bill, and now the NRA makes repeated political blunders. Even if this were a back-scratching moment over “Disclose”, they should know we don’t make deals with the devil.
This is a head shot!
kchand Thursday, July 1st at 11:00AM EST (link)n/t
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The ‘N’ word is November! Nov 6, 2012 will be the next cleansing.
Gee...
edniceville Friday, July 2nd at 8:32AM EST (link)I wonder how long it will be before Ted Nugent resigns from the BOD at the NRA?
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” – Daniel Patrick Moynihan
NRA= Not Republican Anymore
throwback59 Thursday, July 1st at 8:13AM EST (link)Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people? Talk about selling your soul to Satan.
Comparing Reid To Satan
Ausonius (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 9:06AM EST (link)is an insult to the devil!
Political prostitution comes cheaply: one gun range in Nevada counterbalances an extreme left-wing anti-gun voting record?
Fascinating!
But typical of our idiotic era: how did the idiots come to be in charge of so much? How for example did a lisping blustering moron like Barney Frank come to be in charge of anything other than a hot-dog stand at the zoo?
Are there so many idiots in the electorate in Nevada and Massachusetts and elsewhere? Why does a group like the NRA sell itself for something so petty?
Charlton Heston would not be happy!
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
Cato@rock.com
The camel that breaks a straw back.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 8:33AM EST (link)At that endorsement, The NRA will officially become nothing more than The AARP…… a known shill organization, almost like a labor union…… political expediency for the few at the top over common sense and anything else that really matters for individuals and rights.
Plus,
that clone of Ed Schultz in a pants-suitMs. Kagan skips down the meadow lane of The Senatelying out of every hole andmaking Justice Sotomayor’s views seem like Justice Thomas’.And through all of this…….. The anti’s are licking their chops…….. They can visualize the administration’s brown shirts (OFA, SEIU, etc.) going door to door-to-door, steel-toed jackboots on the throats of any civilian with as little as a certified-antique Daisy Air Rifle…….. anyone even remotely putting up a fight ‘getting disappeared’ in an instant, or sent off to one of the non-existent camps.
Anyone from the exec. setup at The NRA reading this…….. Y’all can go spit up a rope, suck on a lemon and nail your feet to a perch so you don’t go “vooooooom”.
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Gee Kenny, why don’t you tell us how you really feel ?
Because I’d end up getting prematurely disappeared by a “nudge”.
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By the way….. I’ve been told by a few people that when I stop getting snarky on a topic, that’s when I tend to become dangerous. So far, I’ve not stopped being snarky.
This is a model diary
mikerazar (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 8:39AM EST (link)It is chocked full of real facts and cogent logic. Not a personal attack, but multiple reasons to oppose Reid. We need more of these.
We have a nation to save, people.
The NRA is now just another Lefty Shill Group
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 8:56AM EST (link)” I side impenitently with the human race against the modern reformer.” – C.S. Lewis
My Dad has been convinced for a while
Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 9:01AM EST (link)…that leftists have made it their long-term goal to join conservative groups and have them tilt leftward. He could see no other explanation for the inept Republicans through the years. I thought he was a little paranoid, but now I know different.
Didn’t Kruschev always brag about taking America over from the inside? He was spot on.
This is too bizzare to be believed
partyof1 Thursday, July 1st at 9:02AM EST (link)but if true then it’s time to put the NRA in its place. Those paying dues should cancel their memberships.
I just bought a pistol and I wasn’t really thinking of joining but if they endorse Reid I will be highly motivated to work against them in every possible way including joining GOA if need be.
Ya hear that giant ripping sound?
rick554 Thursday, July 1st at 9:13AM EST (link)THATS the sound of thousands of NRA membership cards.
Rick554
And mine is one of them.
kto959 Thursday, July 1st at 2:40PM EST (link)Greetings gang. Rarely speak up, but the actions of the NRA really piss me off. I’m a (formerly) NRA dues paying member, and I attempted to call and cancel my NRA membership once I learned about being sold out regarding the DISCLOSE act. Was told I could only cancel membership in-writing. OK, I’ll do whatever it takes. For anyone else out there wishing to cancel their NRA membership, here’s the address I was given.
NRA
11250 Waples Mill Road
Fairfax, Va. 22030
I hope enough people cancel and make the NRA regret their stupidity.
Bye Bye NRA!
1689 Thursday, July 1st at 2:48PM EST (link)Endorse Harry Reid? Disgusting. If they do, I’m cancelling by NRA membership.
New Analogy
tapout Thursday, July 1st at 9:19AM EST (link)The NRA is to 2nd amendment supporters as the AMA is to Doctors.
Just as the AMA supports Obamacare and it’s own interests above those of the Doctors it purports to represent, so is the NRA.
That’s because it’s not about gun rights or healthcare, it’s about the erosion of liberty and the State taking over control. After all the Government knows better than we do, right?
Good analogy
johnCV (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 9:34AM EST (link)They are just another self serving political organization that uses the 2A to further it’s own existence.
I had a call for fund raising/renewal other evening. Poor guy. I blasted him about holder,sotomayor, DISCLOSE etc. He was stammering saying he would have to look into it.
Now they endorse that crapweasel reid? I’m done with them, I have GOA on another screen filling out the membership form as we speak (er… type).
Now pardon me while I go scrape a round sticker from my car.
I'm done
K James Thursday, July 1st at 9:23AM EST (link)I’m pretty sure I’m done with them anyway. However if they do this, my NRA-branded clothing is going to Salvation Army, I’ll never visit any range they are affiliated with again and they will not get another dime from me, directly or indirectly.
Let's see...
littlehouse18 (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 9:32AM EST (link)AARP, AMA, RINOS, NRA, ……..
Yep, they’ve been infiltrated. Where does it stop?
I think we need massive prayer.
A lot of folks are going to be done with the NRA.
Section9 Thursday, July 1st at 9:36AM EST (link)Endorsing Harry Reid becasue he got you some porkulus is the lowest of the low.
GOA needs to take off on this. Big time.
“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill
Just called
banzaibob (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 9:41AM EST (link)They said they are not at this time endorsing Reid. I let them know I will stop my payments toward lifetime membership and will be tearing up my membership card. If you haven’t already, call!!!!!!
Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas
It’s better to die upon your feet than to live upon your knees!
Emiliano Zapata
Not true
dpddj Thursday, July 1st at 9:43AM EST (link)I just spoke to someone at the legislative branch of NRA 1-800-392-8683. The gentleman said – is this in response to the Redstate article? He vociferously denied that NRA will endorse Reid -never have, never will. They better not – I will drop my Life Membership.
Thanks for being vigilent.
Erick should be...
Duke Thursday, July 1st at 10:47AM EST (link)a little less reckless with some of his commentary. This is the second time in one week that he’s dribbled red paint all over the credibility of Red State.
There was NO gag order imposed on the NRA Board Members over the Kagan nomination, and now there does not appear to be any “leaning toward” an endorsement of the grossly anti-gun Dirty Harry Reid.
I personally know several Board Members who have told me these things. Wayne works for them – not the other way around. He would be jobless in a heartbeat if he endorsed Reid by himself, without a vote by the Board. And if anyone thinks the Nugents (as well as most of the rest of the Board) wouldn’t go ballistic over such a proposal, guess again.
It’s not about a purge. It’s about an insurrection.
NRA-ILA rep denied it
Russ Martin (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 9:46AM EST (link)FYI – I just called and waited about 5 minutes to talk to a rep. I informed him that I had read a source on the interned about the NRA supporting Harry Reid. He asked “Is this that Red State article?” and denied that the NRA was supporting Harry Reid. I told him that as a member, I didn’t appreciate their support of the Disclose Act. I told him that if the NRA supported Harry Reid, now or ever, I would cancel my membership and never return.
1. Calling ATF agents “Jack-booted thugs”.
2. The Carve out for the Disclose Act
3. Supporting Harry Reid.
3 strikes = an out:
“Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” George Washington
They told me the same thing
Castor (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 10:28AM EST (link)I hope to God they´re not lying.
Me too...
johnCV (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 11:55AM EST (link).
Same here
trainwife1962 Thursday, July 1st at 12:07PM EST (link)The rep with whom I spoke was HOT under the collar about Red State. I challenged him on the Dicslose act, Strickland over Kasich and Fisher over Portman- Response- that they are a single issue groupd, that Srickland was better than Kasich (his vote on the weapons bill during Clinton uears). Claimed they did not support the disclose act. Told him that if they did support Reid, strickland, et al, I would resign my life membership. Also told him that you don’t have a 2nd amendment without the first amendment.
They are po’d at RedState and angry we are calling.
Read Between The Lines When The NRA Speaks
jaybo (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 12:30PM EST (link)trainwife1962 said the following.
“(The NRA) Claimed they did not support the disclose act.”
What you need to ask them is, will they actively lobby against the act?
This is probably the substance of the deal with democrats. Pelosi and Reid both know that if the NRA actively opposes the bill, it will damage its successful passage.
But if they remain silent?………
I am beyond repulsed by this
peg_c (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 9:49AM EST (link)and only wish I were still a member and could ream them out and demand a refund. I cannot wait for the next membership drive phone call!!!
I’m sharing with my 900+ conservative buds on FB and asking that they all call the NRA and register their disgust and non-acceptance of this utter betrayal of conservative values.
Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.
Single Interest Political Groups Are Bad For America
jaybo (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 9:51AM EST (link)This proves that political groups that are singularly focused can do so to the detriment of the country as a whole. They are susceptible to corruption by any political group that is willing to use them for the moment to pursue an agenda.
What I find deeply troubling ( I told them so in an email) is that they do not seem to understand that the Second Amendment of The Constitution is worth nothing if we lose constitutional governance in this country! If they continue down this road, constitutional conservatives will need to come to the conclusion that they do not serve the best interests of America.
The only reason I can think of for supporting Harry Reid
KevinM Thursday, July 1st at 10:00AM EST (link)Is that if he loses, Chuck Schumer will move up the food chain and possibly become the Majority (or hopefully Minority) Leader. I must admit that I prefer Harry Reid in this role. But that is the ONLY reason. Harry Reid is my senator, and he has to go into retirement. I don’t know anyone in Nevada who is NRA friendly, that thinks Reid is the right choice. I too found the NRA article about his contribution to the Clark County Shooting Park infuriating. What it didn’t say is that Republican John Ensign played an equally important role in making this happen.
just wondering....
Russ Martin (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 10:21AM EST (link)if this was leaked as a trial balloon by the NRA. I wonder how much push-back they received for their support of the Disclose Act. Regardless, I am growing very concerned about the direction of the NRA. I’ll be checking out the GOA.
“Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” George Washington
ILA Hotline
pirate55 (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 10:30AM EST (link)….claims “not true”. I have informed the NRA-ILA as a contributor of hundreds in past two years, any endorsement such as this will result in the cancellation of my membership. I would recommend people continue to contact the hotline as it appears they are somewhat busy today with this particular topic.
I just Spoke to NRA
annas Thursday, July 1st at 10:36AM EST (link)and the woman said “they had not endorsed anyone.” She said Reid had a B rating with them and as speaker of the house, he had a lot of power (no s—). She said you must have read that on that very sensational blog. I said let me just say this–we will cancel our membership and inform everyone we know. I asked her if she had any idea of the blow back they would get from endorsing him. She said they had not endorsed him……yet (my take on it).
either you or the NRA is engaged in substance abuse
streiff (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 10:42AM EST (link)Harry Reid is Senate Majority Leader, not Speaker of the House.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Typical of the NRA
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 10:40AM EST (link)I remember dealing with people here in Indiana who tried to use the A+ the NRA gave Stutzman as some reason to believe that he was great on the right to keep and bear arms. I tried to tell them that NRA grades aren’t indicative of that and that Hostettler’s proven record was 100 times better and that the GOA (which was backing Hostettler) is a better organization to listen to when it comes to political endorsements. But the NRA has somehow gained that reputation of being the name to trust, and it’s really hard to break that.
Been there - seen that
Duke Thursday, July 1st at 11:10AM EST (link)I ran for the state legislature against a liberal Democrat former school teacher who had an A+ rating from the NRA. I was an NRA Life Member and the President of a shooting club. The Democrat wasn’t a member, never belonged to any shooting club, and had made anti-gun public statements regarding concealed carry and handgun bans.
When I asked the NRA office what the hell they were doing giving this guy a rating that high, all they could tell me was that they graded according to his public voting record and how he answered the questionaire they sent him.
Those NRA grade ratings for politicians are mostly useless crap. I wouldn’t call them an “endorsement” of any kind. Perhaps the NRA Board will take up some modifications to the rating system in the future.
It’s not about a purge. It’s about an insurrection.
They also use subjective criteria
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 12:09PM EST (link)IIRC I looked up something on their website about their grades where they said that they also use their subjective judgments. That leaves all kinds of wiggle room for them to favor pretty much whomever they want, sometimes based on reasons they’d rather not make public.
In Hostettler’s case, one of his great achievements as a defender of the 2nd amendment was shutting down the Clinton and Wesson deal by adding amendments to appropriations bills prohibiting the use of funds for contracts awarded the way Clinton was trying to do (long story short, Clinton was using contracts to force through “safe gun” standards on manufacturers without legislation by Congress). But since Smith and Wesson was a major beneficiary from Clinton’s wheeling and dealing, and since Smith and Wesson also is a major funder of the NRA and has a great deal of influence over them, Hostettler’s pro-2nd amendment actions actually cost him support with them, rather than giving him more. Of course, when they give him an A instead of an A+, they won’t say that’s why.
Correction
annas Thursday, July 1st at 10:49AM EST (link)Streiff you are right–I misspoke–she said as leader in senate. I knew better–just frustrated after talking with her. Sorry
Will we see the same vitriol when a pro-life group endorses Reid and/or another Democrat?
spainishirish (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 11:10AM EST (link)This is the reality of single-issue groups. I loathe Reid and will work to defeat him, but the NRA is focused on gun rights solely. You can be a Republican and support or oppose the NRA because the missions are different.
Yes, but it won't happen -- pro-life groups learned the Stupak lesson
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 11:30AM EST (link)nt
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
Until there's a litmus test for honesty among politicians ...
acat (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 12:09PM EST (link)all single-issue groups are vulnerable to being exploited by Stupak types, those who say what the group wants to hear but don’t actually walk the walk.
Neither the NRA nor the Right-To-Life groups can doubt where Sarah Palin stands – show me another politician we can be that confident in.
Mew
(who hopes that Sarah spends 2012 organizing for the most conservative POTUS candidate she can find rather than trying to be that candidate herself .. amazing woman, but needs a season in D.C. running an agency on her resume…)
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
No they didn't
Menlo (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 12:20PM EST (link)I believe they still occasionally endorse Democrats, and they have no rules that exclude Democrats from consideration.
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
They have this very cycle.
spainishirish (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 12:43PM EST (link)nt
It's not about whether or not he's Republican
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 12:26PM EST (link)If a pro-life group endorsed a pro-life Democrat over a pro-abortion Republican, I could understand that.
If a pro-2nd Amendment group like Gun Owners of America (I wouldn’t count the NRA as a pro-2nd Amendment group) decided to endorse a pro-2nd Amendment Democrat over a gun grabbing Republican, I could understand that.
But here, the NRA is showing it’s true colors by leaning toward endorsing a gun grabbing Democrat over a pro-2nd Amendment Republican.
See the difference?
Why Does Eric Hate The NRA?
buster2058 Thursday, July 1st at 11:17AM EST (link)This story is bunk just like the HR5175 DISCLOSE act report that Eric done was. Quote from the NRA “ExecDir ILA”
“The NRA has never supported–nor would we ever support — any version of this bill. Those who suggest otherwise are wrong.”
Best not take Redstate Eric as fact. He’s been running a smear campaign against the NRA.
Why assume it's emotional, Buster?
acat (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 12:01PM EST (link)Why not assume that Erick has his facts in order, and that the NRA is just as vulnerable as any organization to Pournelle’s Iron Law?
Perhaps your Executive Director is still a stand-up guy, but the fact is Erick is right about the NRA carve-out in the Disclose Act.
Maybe your Executive Director should have a heart-to-heart (or, maybe, a “dutch uncle”) talk with some of his peers… since I doubt the carve-out or the Reid endorsement rumor are coming from the mail room staff…
Mew
(for those not familiar, here is Pournelle’s Iron Law)
In any bureaucracy, the people devoted to the benefit of the bureaucracy itself always get in control and those dedicated to the goals the bureaucracy is supposed to accomplish have less and less influence, and sometimes are eliminated entirely.
– Jerry Pournelle
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
Why Does Eric Hate The NRA?
buster2058 Thursday, July 1st at 12:28PM EST (link)Why assume Eric has his facts. This whole story is unsubstantiated based on unnamed sources.
This person a spokes person for the NRA:
I received your email regarding the NRA`s position on H.R. 5175, the “DISCLOSE Act”. Regrettably, our position has been misstated by some and intentionally misrepresented by others. I hope you`ll allow me to provide the proper context.
The U.S. Supreme Court`s Citizens United decision was a significant victory for free speech and the Constitution. The NRA filed a strong brief in that case, which the Court specifically cited several times in its opinion. The DISCLOSE Act is an attempt to reverse that victory and that`s why we told Congress we oppose it.
The NRA has never supported–nor would we ever support — any version of this bill. Those who suggest otherwise are wrong.
The restrictions in this bill should not apply to anyone or to any organization. My job is to ensure they don`t apply to the NRA and our members. Without the NRA, the Second Amendment will be lost and I will do everything in my power to prevent that.
We believe that any restriction on political speech is repugnant. But some of our critics believe we should put the Second Amendment at risk over a First Amendment principle to protect other organizations. That`s easy to say–unless you have a sworn duty to protect the Second Amendment above all else, as I do.
The NRA is a single-issue organization made up of millions of individual members dedicated to protecting the Second Amendment. We do not represent the interests of other organizations. Nor do all groups fight all issues together. For example, we didn`t support the U.S. Chamber of Commerce when it backed amnesty for tens of millions of illegal aliens and we did not join the Chamber in its support of President Obama`s stimulus bill. And we`ve been in direct opposition when the Chamber has tried to restrict Second Amendment rights in publicly accessible parking lots.
Rather than focusing on opposing this bill, some have encouraged people to blame the NRA for this Congress`s unconstitutional attack on free speech. That`s a shame. If you oppose this bill, I hope you will contact your Member of Congress and Senators so they can hear from you.
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Eric never made a retraction, now this piece of bunk, sounds personal to me.
The NRA vs. The Constitution
jaybo (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 1:40PM EST (link)I find it ridiculous and sad that The NRA believes that it is supporting its members by making deals with politicians that seek to weaken and subvert The Constitution. All of the apologists to this hypocritical organization need to read the following statements carefully.
(The NRA concerning The Disclose Act)
“We told Congress we opposed the bill. Consequently, congressional leaders announced they would exempt us from its draconian restrictions on political speech. If that happens, we will not be involved in final consideration of this bill in the House. If it doesn’t, we will strongly oppose the bill.”
????????????
I guess that The NRA doesn’t mind watch as The Constitution is diminished by politicians as long as they can have (the temporary) right to speak up. I wonder who will be left to support them when their (so called) political pals finally turn on them.
(The NRA spokesperson goes on…)
“There are those who say the NRA should put the Second Amendment at risk over a First Amendment principle. That’s easy to say—unless you have a sworn duty to protect the Second Amendment above all else, as we do.”
The above statement is beyond absurd. How can these people believe that the security of our constitution rests on a single amendment alone?!!!!! This is a shocking revelation to me and really has changed my opinion of them.
http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsReleases.aspx?ID=13920
NRA = ?
GenEarly Friday, July 2nd at 1:36PM EST (link)What good are gun rights without speech rights? And can “selective” gun rights be far down the road after “selective” speech rights?
After all, criminals don’t have to bother with all the gun regulations Honest Citizens do. Hmm…. Criminals have more gun freedoms than Honest Citizens.
Reading for comprehension, Buster. Try it.
acat (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 1:49PM EST (link)The NRA statement that you posted said precisely nothing about the NRA exemption written into the Disclose Act.
The presence of such an exemption says much more than the NRA is saying to you. What you posted is, how’s the quote go, “A sound and fury signifying nothing”.
To be opposed to the Disclose Act would mean, to my mind, not lobbying for an exemption but, well, *opposing* it.
(Or do you believe that the Dems just, out of the goodness of their hearts, wrote the NRA exemption into the act?)
At this point, Buster, you are not coming across as an honest actor – you are coming across like a Lib on a mission to deflect blame away from the despicable decisions of the NRA national leadership.
If this is not how you want to be perceived, then you need to start spelling Erick’s name right, stop accusing Erick of being on an emotional vendetta, and do a better job of reading for comprehension the material you’re bringing to the table.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
5 [nt]
Bill S (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 2:44PM EST (link)“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
With Apologies To An Awesome Comment at Hit N' Run
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 3:09PM EST (link)Nobody does it worse
Makes me feel sad for you
Nobody bores us quite the way you do
Beyotch, you’re the worst
Nobody was looking, still you found us
We tried to ignore your lame ass posts
But like the Hells below us
Your obsession is too much
Not to laugh off in to the night
And nobody does it worse
Though sometimes I wish someone less boring could
You are a mediocre little loser f*ck
Why do you have to be so bad?
Eric never retracted, really?
You couldn’t come up with anthing better?
There’s some kind of disease inside you
That keeps you from being tethered
To the world for your comments to matter
So you’ll always be an unoriginal little troll.
And nobody does it worse
Makes me feel sad for you
Nobody does it half as dismally as you
Beyotch, dumbass, f*ckhead, you’re the worst
Beyotch, you’re the worst
Dumb*ss, you’re the worst
Beyotch, you’re the worst
F*ckhead, you’re the worst
Beyotch, you’re the worst
Beyotch, you’re the worst
(HT: Carly Simone)
” I side impenitently with the human race against the modern reformer.” – C.S. Lewis
Like most lefties, when telling the truth about them, it's smearing them.
gekster (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 12:13PM EST (link)They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
You Calling Me A Leftie?
buster2058 Thursday, July 1st at 12:31PM EST (link)LMAO, your doing the lefties work right now. Very foolish you are.
Erick is stating facts, your calling it a smear.
gekster (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 12:37PM EST (link)And I didn’t see any “hate” in the article.
He’s just providing info.
And “lefties” call the truth smears.
Infer what you want.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
Yes. You're a lefty.
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 2:26PM EST (link)You’re the one defending the NRA here. So the shoe fits. Stop pretending otherwise.
kind of a half truth you're peddling there
streiff (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 2:08PM EST (link)They actually said
They actually did support it by failing to oppose it once they had their exception.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
NRA taking a page
joecollins (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 11:19AM EST (link)from the AARP playbook. Both organizations have abandoned the American way of life.
NRA gave Reid $4000 this year
wayneinnh (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 11:27AM EST (link)This does it for me. No more of my money for the NRA.
Link: http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=Q13&cycle=2010&recipdetail=S&mem=Y&sortorder=U
Jon 14:6 –
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.”
It’s not intellectual to believe we evolved from hydrogen gas.
Note to NRA:
Duke Thursday, July 1st at 11:36AM EST (link)Don’t make deals with the devil.
Note to Erick: Redstate has a target on its butt. I don’t doubt there were whispered allegations from “numerous sources” that made the claim reported here on Redstate. Dividing conservatives is what the socialist democrats are all about; Impugning the integrity and reliability of the information exchanged between conservatives not only gives the liberals a better target, but will have the effect of turning the patriots against the very instutuions that support their struggle.
There are no bullets in the air yet in this war. We need to be absolutely cerrtain we aren’t subjecting our troops to the ravages of friendly fire!
It’s not about a purge. It’s about an insurrection.
How about now?
fatwhiteman Thursday, July 1st at 11:37AM EST (link)Any chance we can see the NRA Gag order yet?
The NRA has been purchased...
guyaverage (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 11:39AM EST (link)…signed, sealed, and delivered. They will co-operate in Progressive Government Gun Control. The key leaders have been bought off and/or coerced, and the NRA is in the bag for the Progressive Marxists.
Teach your children and grandchildren about the Bill of Rights and Self-Government. Maybe someday in the future they will be part of a generation that has the courage to fight and sacrifice to reestablish self-government.
This current generation even lacks the conviction to function in self-government by voting.
http://guyaverage.blogspot.com
Divide and conquer works.
anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 11:39AM EST (link)Find the lever for anyone/any group and pull it. Unfortunately you can’t truly do everything for everybody and anything/anyone/any group not in line with the dem agendas will be tossed under the bus when convenient… idiots.
Santorum? Well, at least he’s not Romney…
http://www.zazzle.com/enemy_of_the_statist_tshirt-235977043035297478
I called
lewincolorado Thursday, July 1st at 12:33PM EST (link)And they told me that this was mis-reported and no plans to endorse Reid. I am an Endowment -Life member.
I hope not, but...
soljerblue Thursday, July 1st at 3:08PM EST (link)The NRA’s policy is to endorse incumbents when their record of support for the Second Amendment “warrants” such support, in their eyes. I have seen that often, and so have you and others. It is a policy I normally don’t complain about, although I believe it should be reconsidered in a year like this one. As a Life/Endowment Member of NRA, I have written them about this before, suggesting they at least consider withholding endorsements in races such as the Reid/Angle contest, or others where a conservative newcomer supports the the Second Amendment. Here in Alabama for years they repeatedly endorsed the incumbent congressman for the 7th District who was a screaming liberal and did nothing for the Black Belt counties in his district. But — he voted “right” on the 2A.
NRA is now showing their cajones
KevinM Thursday, July 1st at 12:52PM EST (link)by opposing the nomination of Kagan:
http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsReleases.aspx?ID=13980
Let’s hope they still have them regarding their comments to us regarding Mr. Reid.
Not to mire this post with conspiracy,
tonyevans Thursday, July 1st at 1:18PM EST (link)but I’ve been thinking about this with respect to the Kagan gag order too.
Is is possible that RS/Erick is trying to stir the pot here? The NRA hasn’t had a strong reponse to Kagan or Sharron Angle. With Sharron Angle being the more pro-gun candidate, and the NRA taking forever to grade Kagan, is Erick putting the screws to them through the NRA membership? Sort of a, “let’s make some fire where there’s smoke.” Getting the NRA to throw its weight behind Mrs. Angle could lead to the defeat of Reid. Problem is, the NRA isn’t doing it. Maybe the thought process here was, “How do we get them to do it?” This post could be the answer to that question. The same goes for Kagan. The NRA remained silent, so let’s conjole them into saying something – anything – about her, and to do it, we’re going to *somehow* draw attention to their inattention.
No, I think it's simpler than that.
acat (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 1:52PM EST (link)The NRA leadership have been in D.C. too long.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
no
streiff (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 2:03PM EST (link)you’ve been thinking about this too much. Take this one at face value.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
"Conjole"
GenEarly Friday, July 2nd at 1:51PM EST (link)You don’t have to “conjole” LEADERS; as in, General would you please consider attacking the enemy before they overrun our position?
Where exactly is the NRA “leadership” leading us? And do I want to follow /contribute anymore?
Are there others who more accurately reflect / protect my FREEDOMS?
It’s NOT about the organization, it’s about the FREEDOMS.
The NRA's been on the outs for some time
jsanzone (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 1:50PM EST (link)Like John McCain, in any crisis or publicity opportunity, they gun for that coveted “reasonable” label in the NY Times. While there is obviously still some good floating around in the NRA–particularly those who still actually concentrate on a legal defense of the 2nd Amendment–it’s no longer in doubt that the leadership of the organization are little better than other lobbyist organizations: off message, maneuvering for power, and of course, in it for the money.
http://www.2010blog.net
20/10 Blog
Voice of Reason - the NRA
davidn Thursday, July 1st at 2:30PM EST (link)I think it is quite simple, the NRA is considering the endorsement of Reid because his opponent is just a tad short of a full load.
She spoke for a half hour yesterday on Las Vegas TV and made little, or no sense. Prior to that she had literally run from reporters thus, few know her views. Yesterday did little to re-ensure anyone watching. She wanted to quote Jefferson and his choices on church and state and got it all wrong – motivation and out of context.
We can do better, maybe not this time but, I would be very concerned if she won.
I can’t seem to remember if I was a Two Star General, as I claim here, or a retired business executive.
If You Won't Support a Republican in The General Election, You Don't Belong Here (nt)
IJB Thursday, July 1st at 2:32PM EST (link)He's probably not a Republican (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 3:07PM EST (link)RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
Unlikely Voter: Poll Analysis, Election Projection.
“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
Oh look, what a troll
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 3:09PM EST (link)On his RS profile he claims he’s a general.
On Ning he claims he’s a retired business executive.
RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
Unlikely Voter: Poll Analysis, Election Projection.
“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
what that means is
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 3:23PM EST (link)He is the manager at Dollar General.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Hey that was funny, but I don't care if people make
earlgrey (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 3:38PM EST (link)a living shoveling horse waste, I just want them to pull the lever for the R. We believe in people pulling themselves up, and if a stop at the Dollar General is what it takes than go for it.
Well that's just it
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 4:02PM EST (link)This particular guy was a terrible, inconsistent moby promoting Reid.
RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
Unlikely Voter: Poll Analysis, Election Projection.
“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
Yeah you are right, I just didn't want to
earlgrey (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 5:53PM EST (link)make fun of people who might manage a dollar general store. It is not my line of work, but anyone who works hard and votes republican should be treated with respect.
So, Kyle should have said...
acat (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 11:39PM EST (link)“He’s a lefty living in his dad’s basement in between semesters of drunken frolic at a state college” .. ?
That’s less funny, though perhaps more accurate.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
Fascinating. What Did She Say?
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 2:35PM EST (link)The NRA is contemplating the endorsement of a man who has voted for just about every anti-gun ownership bill that the DEMS have written. I guess they aren’t the National Rifle Association anymore.
” I side impenitently with the human race against the modern reformer.” – C.S. Lewis
You'd prefer Reid to Angle...
e_rowe (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 3:03PM EST (link)And these are your reasons?
I think you’re at the wrong website.
G'bye (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 3:06PM EST (link)RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
Unlikely Voter: Poll Analysis, Election Projection.
“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
Well if NRA was, in fact, considering it quietly...
liandro (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 2:46PM EST (link)…Erick led the charge of straightening out exactly where a large chunk of their membership/supporters stand on the issue.
I’ve criticized Erick’s style before, but this time I have to praise him. I don’t think there is anything wrong with shooting something like this down well before it’s off the ground, and snuffing out any remote possibility that something like this is being considered.
Even if they weren’t considering it, they got sent a strong message that their actions of late have put those they are supposed to represent on edge…a good message to send, I think. Kudos.
I'd like to make one correction...
soljerblue Thursday, July 1st at 2:54PM EST (link)on Reid’s record. His vote to cancel the Army’s Civilian Marksmanship Program in October of 1993. I speak as a competitive shooter, Life/Endowment Member, and member and supporter of the Civilian Marksmanship Program. The CMP is alive and well as a CIVILIAN corporation, so mandated by Congress in that vote. It came during the Clinton “downsizing” years. While it was dropped from the Army, it was fully enabled and chartered to continue under civilian management as a non-profit corporation. It funds and supports marksmanship training and safety programs for all ages through rifle and equipment sales, and — I may add — has no special relationship with the NRA. They get along. They cooperate during large national events such as the Camp Perry National Matches every year, but they’re not an NRA clone. I invite you all to get to know the CMP, especially if you have aspirations to be a competitive shooter or collector of US military arms.
Here’s the link to their web site: http://www.odcmp.com/
$61 Million??
aylarja Thursday, July 1st at 3:16PM EST (link)Hold on – $61 million for a shooting range? I say, follow the money. That might tell you why the NRA and some of its leadership are now contemplating giving Harry Reid a lifeline to re-election.
My 64 year-old mom...
Eric Olsen (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 3:27PM EST (link)…life-long gun owner, self-described “Goldwater conservative,” and the biggest influence upon me politically, continues to deny that the NRA is systematically selling out.
When I was 19 and thought I knew everything, I may have been inclined to reconsider. However, at 44, I’m beginning to accept the fact that Mr. Heston’s NRA died with him.
The danger is that so many well-intentioned friends of the NRA are happily going off the cliff with them in the name of preserving gun rights.
“I need no warrant for being, and no word of sanction upon my being. I am the warrant and the sanction.” – Ayn Rand, Anthem
NRA against Guns, AARP against 60+
aposematic Thursday, July 1st at 3:51PM EST (link)Seems to me (full disclosure: NRA member, became eligible for AARP but refused them over AARP support for Obamacare) that the NRA is following right along the path of screw their members for Gov’t. handouts as the AARP did by supporting Obamacare.
Think I’ll switch to GOA, by by NRA!
aposematic in VA
Score One For Eric The Red
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 4:08PM EST (link)NRA Shoots Down Approval Of Kagan Confirmation
” I side impenitently with the human race against the modern reformer.” – C.S. Lewis
Score One For Eric The Red
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 4:08PM EST (link)NRA Shoots Down Approval Of Kagan Confirmation
” I side impenitently with the human race against the modern reformer.” – C.S. Lewis
The NRA has been acting squirelly in Georgia too
phred (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 4:13PM EST (link)they recently opposed SB308 which redefined the 140 year old anti-public gathering law to favor licensed concealed weapon carriers. The NRA took a very confusing stand on that bill and threatened lawmakers with a bad NRA rating if the bill was supported.
What is this? Hormone problems?
Liberalism: Equally shared misery.
Bureaucrats in charge of an issues-based organisation.
acat (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 11:50PM EST (link)Did I mention Pournelle’s Iron Law around here somewhere?
In any bureaucracy, the people devoted to the benefit of the bureaucracy itself always get in control and those dedicated to the goals the bureaucracy is supposed to accomplish have less and less influence, and sometimes are eliminated entirely.
– Jerry Pournelle
Without a firm kick in the ideological nads, the NRA will be just as top-heavy with useless drones and hacks as your average school board, and for the same reason.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
FIRE HIM
blackhawk Thursday, July 1st at 5:03PM EST (link)How do we as members get rid of this phony fool.
AARP lost hundreds of thousands of members because of foolish Barry’s support.
Wayne is a traitor to the NRA membership.
Get a new job Wayne.
Norm James
Cornhusker Kickback II
teapartypatriot Thursday, July 1st at 5:09PM EST (link)Like any unethical reprobate, the NRA seems to have its price – and the d-crat socialists paid it.
I was leaning toward joining the NRA, but
johnm Thursday, July 1st at 9:03PM EST (link)I was leaning toward joining the NRA, but now now!
OKAY - - JUST GIVE UP YOUR U.S. CITIZENSHIP NOW - ALONG WITH NRA MMBRSHP FOR THIS SAME (MORAL ) OUTRAGE
dumbbuggydriverfrqtrnola Thursday, July 1st at 11:12PM EST (link)NOW WHERE YA NERVELESS SPOILED BRATS GONNA GO WITH YOUR EXCUSE FOR PATRIOTISM AND LOYALTY TO THE FIGHT TO SAVE THE CONSTITUTION???? GET BACK IN HERE AND FIGHT YOU LITTLE miseducated sunshine pseudo-patriot wannabees – YOUR COUNTRY,YOUR NRA AND YOUR ALLEGIENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION AGAINST all-ALLL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND domESTIC NeeD YOUBTO BEGIN SHOWING UO AT TARGET PRACTICE IN DEFENSE OF YOU AND YOUR KIDS CIVIL AND PERSONAL; CONSTITUTIONAL LIBERTY. – SO CALL ME LETS GO FOCUS,TALK AND ZERO0 OUR BEST MEANS OF DEFENSE. THANKS – D. IN NOLA
Important safety tip:
Bill S (Diary) Thursday, July 1st at 11:43PM EST (link)Stop with the ALL CAPS.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Better yet
conservativecrusade (Diary) Friday, July 2nd at 12:54AM EST (link)Stop with intake of drugs, it is not doing his mind any favors!
“The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.” — Alexis de Tocqueville
If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting. — Curtis LeMay
We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan
Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. — George Washington
HOW FREEDOM AND LIFE FOR EACH AND AVERY DAY IS CLAIMED IN EACH PART OF OUR OH SO IMPERFECT WORLD SHARED WTH BUTTHOLES
dumbbuggydriverfrqtrnola Thursday, July 1st at 11:45PM EST (link)LAST TIME I STUCK MY HEAD ABOVE A STACK OF SANDBAGS ;RESPONDING TO THE SOUNDS OF A BUNCH OF FANATICS TRYING TO KILL US ALL ( MY SQUAD BUDDYS) IN OUR PARTICULAR BUNKER, BECAUSE WE DIDN’T SHARE THEIR MARXIST-NATIONAL SOCIALIST BELIEFS -AND I TOSSED THREE GRENADES IN THEIR MIDST -THEN SPRAYED THEIR REMAINS WITH 30 ROUNDS OF . 223 WINCHESTER (AMERICAN) TO BE SURE OF MY OH SO MINOR VICTORY OVER THE TYRANTS OF THIS WORLD – ALL FOUR OF THEM; IF MY COUNT OF THEIR FEET WAS CORRECT) – WELL ( OUR RULES WERE THAT IF YOU GREASE’M,SPLATTER ‘EM OR STICK’EM – YOU GO OUT AND COUNT ‘EM AND BAG’EM .SMOKEY BEAR SAY, PUT IT OUT & PICK ‘EM UP.DON’T LITTER A PLACE YOU CARE ABOUT.-
Neil, we need a blamstick. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, July 2nd at 12:05AM EST (link)I dunno .. it's got a certain .. something.
acat (Diary) Friday, July 2nd at 12:51AM EST (link)Like Viet Nam as remembered by someone who wasn’t ever there, perhaps?
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
Actually, I need some of whatever this dude's on. -nt-
eburke (Diary) Friday, July 2nd at 1:09AM EST (link)“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
Unilateral disarmament seems to be the topic
redneck_hippie (Diary) Friday, July 2nd at 1:14AM EST (link)But I don’t think his is exactly Obama’s brand.
Re: Just Whose Side are You On - Erick?
movwater Friday, July 2nd at 8:30AM EST (link)“Multiple sources tell me the National Rifle Association is planning to endorse liberal Harry Reid against pro-gun champion Sharron Angle.”
And just who are these “sources.” Erick Erickson apparently has a vindetta against the NRA. So far, his sources have been zero accurate on the NRA’s positions. Perhaps he believes that the 1994 route of the Democrat Congress would have happened even without the NRA. I suggest that if he believes this, he should ask someone who knows the truth “Bill Clinton.” On the subject of the NRA both former President Clinton and Erick Erickson seem to be on the same page working for their destruction.
If he thinks that “State carry permits” or Heller or McDonald would have happened without the NRA he is simply a useful idiot of left. If he doesn’t realize that Algore would have been elected President in 2000 and Kerry in 2004, Mr. Erickson is too naive to be the author ofa political column. Nothing would please the Progressives more than the demise of the NRA. One must wonder just why Erick Erickson is beating their drum for them!
John Acton
John, try asking the NRA who's side THEY'RE on.
Brian Hibbert (Diary) Friday, July 2nd at 8:55AM EST (link)Lately they’ve been playing the useful idiot role.
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I will guess this IP address will link right back to the NRA....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, July 2nd at 9:24AM EST (link)because the usefull idiots are the NRA and their entire LACK of ethics. They also do not recognize their own CUSTOMERS! so little lemming drop dead!
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Well, at least this one can spell Erick...
acat (Diary) Friday, July 2nd at 9:42AM EST (link)But it’s the same tired argument, John.
Yes, the NRA has done good in the past. Yes, the state-level NRA organizations may still be doing good. At a national level, though, the NRA has the appearance of having sold out.
It appears, to me, that the upper level of the NRA have decided, against the will of their membership, to cut a deal on the Disclose Act instead of re-fighting the (successful) “Citizens United” case. (the alternative is to believe the NRA “carve-out” in the Disclose Act sprang, fully formed, from Nancy Pelosi’s head…)
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The NRA explained to me...
charlierightview Friday, July 2nd at 8:51AM EST (link)At the same time of the Tea Party Nevada rally, Wayne LaPierre was shooting with Harry Reid at the Nevada gun range Reid promoted.
I asked why LaPierre was with Reid instead of at the Tea Party a few miles down the road. I suggested that this sent the wrong signals.
The polite response I received was that the NRA was a single-issue, apolitical, organization and that Reid had supported them.
The thoughtful info provided here by other readers puts a whole new twist on this. To whit:
One might suspect that the gun range was an attempt by Reid to curry the favor of the NRA, and it worked. One could also suspect that the dedication ceremony was carefully planned by Reid, et al, to conflict with the Tea Party.
I take note now that the gun range provided a place to shoot in a controlled environment and had nothing to do with other gun “rights” — like carry.
These events suggest that the NRA is like most of the Washington crowd — they either have their price or they can be duped.
I’m disappointed, to say the least.
But this seems to be how the Washington power structure works. Throw a potentially powerful opponent a bone and they’ll become a follower. It worked, more or less, with AARP, and the AMA, and you can probably name more by giving some thought to it..
Chuck
Re: NRA and Harry Reid
movwater Friday, July 2nd at 9:33AM EST (link)In 2004 NV US Senate Race the NRA Endorsed (R) RICHARD ZISER “NRA A Rating” over (D) HARRY REID “NRA B Rating.”
John Acton
Lifetime Member of the NRA
canking Friday, July 2nd at 10:18AM EST (link)I called the NRA and told them unequivocally that if they endorse Harry Reid I am withdrawing my membership.
Can't be "Single-Issue", and Ignore the Rest!
tuckersdad Friday, July 2nd at 10:24AM EST (link)If you think that you can bury your head in the sand, and say that you are a “Single-Issue”, apolitical organization, you are sadly mistaken. All things are related. By not supporting the First Amendment, you are jeopardizing the Second Amendment (as well as the entire Bill of Rights). There are few Senators that have done more harm to this Country, and to America’s Freedoms than Harry Reid. If your price is a $61 M gun range in Nevada, you might be very disappointed in the future, when your Government redecorates it to a Concentration Camp for all us “dissenting” citizens, and former NRA members. If you don’t think it can happen, re-read your history lessons. You don’t have to go back very far! You can’t just focus on the stepping-stone directly in front of you. You have to look far down the road that it is leading you to. If you do choose to bury your head in the sand, and concentrate on that one “single-issue”, one day, you’re going to pull your head out of the sand, and find that there is nothing left to fight for.
The time has come for new leadership in the NRA! In the meantime, I would urge all gun owners to take a good look at these two organizations (www.gunowners.org and www.jpfo.org), and support them in their efforts.
The issue is Freedom
josephmn Friday, July 2nd at 11:39AM EST (link)I am a member of the NRA as is my wife. We have been proud to be part of this patriotic ogranization for many years. When the NRA supports harry reid and backhands freedom loving people by doing the stupak two-step and making a deal with the devil on free speach they have lost claim to my loyalty and continued membership.
I just now called the NRA...
TexasTami Friday, July 2nd at 1:16PM EST (link)…and was on hold for at least 8 minutes (good job, Patriots, for calling in), and the man I got was very supportive of Harry Reid. He said that, actually, as Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid had done “some good things” for the Second Amendment. I asked him if he knew about Reid’s voting record. He hemmed and hawed and couldn’t come up with an answer other than: “The NRA is an strong advocate for…” I then told him that my husband and I have been strong supporters of NRA, but if NRA endorses Reid, then we will no longer be paying members of NRA….AND that we have about 100 friends who are card-carrying NRA members and we will make sure all of them are aware of an endorsement of Reid by the NRA. And, of course, these 100+ families will then tell all their card-carrying friends… I suggested that the windfall from this endorsement may very well buckle the NRA. Then I politely said, “Have a good day,” he responded with “Thank you for calling”, and we hung up.
TexasTami
reply from NRA
northernrockiesguy Friday, July 2nd at 3:03PM EST (link)Below is reply I got from NRA regarding Harry Reid as well as my note to Michael Land. We can stop this with alot of e-mails, calls and informing our friends. This is a lose/lose situation for NRA and I cannot believe they will go through with it if enough of us protest.
Dear Michael;
It appears to me you are using a computer algorithm to choose candidates to support.
You really need some human input…..If you endorse Harry Reid for senator you are
going to lose MANY NRA members. For goodness sake, you can always stand aside. Ms.
Angle appears to be a 2nd amendment advocate. Please do a serious gut check before
endorsing Harry Reid.
thank you
don
> Dear Don,
>
> Thank you for contacting NRA-ILA regarding the recent rumor that
> NRA-PVF has indicated they will endorse Harry Reid.
>
> Regarding any potential endorsement of Sen. Reid in the upcoming
> elections, NRA-PVF has not yet announced any ratings or endorsements
> in this race. Ratings and endorsements will be determined closer to
> the election. It is important to note, however, that the NRA is a
> single issue organization and that when our ratings and endorsements
> are announced, they are based solely on a candidate’s support for, or
> opposition to, our Second Amendment rights. Other issues, as important
> as they may be to many people, do not and cannot play any role in
> those decisions. NRA represents a broad coalition of American gun
> owners, who are bound together by their support for the right to keep and bear arms.
>
> In 2004, Senator Reid was rated “B” in his reelection by the NRA
> Political Victory Fund. Since then, as U.S. Senate Majority Leader,
> Senator Reid has proven himself to be a supporter of our Second
> Amendment rights. It would be accurate to say that few, if any, of
> NRA’s legislative victories in Congress during the last six years
> would have occurred without his active support.
>
> As an example, he was instrumental in Senate passage (and eventual
> enactment into law) of the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act”
> (PLCAA)”, which shut down reckless lawsuits against gun manufacturers
> and dealers that attempted to hold them liable for the misuse of
> firearms by criminals. Sen. Reid also cosponsored S. 659 (PLCCA) in
> the 108th Congress and voted against “poison pill” amendments to it,
> including the Feinstein Amendment to renew the federal ban on
> so-called “assault weapons”, and the Kennedy Amendment that would have
> banned most hunting ammunition.
> I tinkered with this to make it more effective
>
> Following Hurricane Katrina, he voted for legislation, that is now
> federal law, to prohibit gun confiscation during states of emergency.
> He also voted for legislation to allow commercial airline pilots to be
> armed in the cockpit to protect their passengers and crew. In this
> congressional session, Sen. Reid voted for the Ensign Amendment to
> repeal Washington D.C.’s gun ban and restore self-defense rights in our nation’s
capital.
> He cosponsored similar legislation–S. 1414–in the 108th Congress.
> He also voted for an amendment to allow law-abiding citizens to carry
> firearms for self-defense in national parks and wildlife refuges.
> This federal policy change just took effect on February 22.
>
> Early last year, Sen. Reid emphatically stated that he would oppose
> any effort to reinstate an “assault weapons” ban if the Senate were to
> vote on it in the future. In addition, he voted last year for the
> Thune-Vitter Amendment to provide national reciprocity for state
> Right-to-Carry permits. He also voted twice for the Wicker Amendment
> allowing Amtrak passengers to include firearms in their checked
> luggage. These votes were possible only because of Senator Reid’s
> actions in his capacity as Senate Majority Leader. Finally, he was
> among the 58 Senators who signed the pro-gun congressional amicus
> brief in the McDonald v. Chicago case, argued before the U.S. Supreme
> Court on March 2nd, which will decide whether the Second Amendment applies to all
states and localities.
>
> Most recently, the NRA worked with Sen. Reid to include in his
> manager’s amendment to the health care reform bill a provision that
> prohibits the disclosure or collection of information relating to the
> lawful ownership, use or storage of firearms or ammunition and also
> prohibits lawful gun ownership, possession and use from being used as
> a factor to determine eligibility or premium rates for health
> insurance. This provision was adopted on December 22, 2009 and was
> included in this legislation when it was signed into law on March 23.
>
> Finally, Senator Reid is opposed to any anti-gun treaties that might
> come before the U.S. Senate for ratification.
>
> These are a few examples of Senator Reid’s support and leadership on
> Second Amendment issues. Given the Senate could vote on gun-related
> issues in the coming months, rest assured any votes will be considered
> in future candidate evaluations. Regarding NRA Executive Vice
> President Wayne LaPierre and NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox
> recently attending the grand opening of the Clark County Shooting Park
> (CCSP) with U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and other Nevada elected
officials.
>
> The CCSP is the largest shooting park in the world. This 2,900-acre
> state-of-the-art facility is devoted entirely to the shooting sports
> and is the nation’s premier shooting park. As the nation’s largest
> shooting sports organization, the NRA’s presence at the ribbon-cutting
> ceremony should come as no surprise. NRA actively worked with several
> Members of the Nevada congressional delegation, including Senator
> Reid, to ensure that this range was built. The development and
> construction of the CCSP has the full bipartisan support of the Nevada
> congressional delegation, and Nevada’s Republican Governor.
>
> Senator Reid was instrumental in arranging not only the transfer of
> the then-federal lands to Clark County where the Park is located, but
> also in securing $61 million in funding to develop and build the Park.
> The Clark County Shooting Park would not have been built without his
> active efforts and support.
>
> Once again, thank you for your inquiry.
>
> Yours in Freedom,
>
> Michael Land
> NRA-ILA Grassroots Division
Re: Still Stuck on Stupid!
movwater Friday, July 2nd at 3:31PM EST (link)I can’t believe you are as political ignorant as you seem to be in your opinion peices. The NRA has made a vote for Kagan’s conformation a “scored vote.” I hope you know what that means. When Harry Reid votes to confirm Kagan, and he will, their will be NO CHANCE that the NRA would endorse him, IF THERE EVER WAS ONE, accept in you politically vacant mind. The NRA has never endorsed Harry Reid – those are the facts, and they will not endorse him this time, seeing his position on the RKBA and his position on the Disclose bill and McClain/Fengold. Who are your sources for this anti-gun propaganda, anyway? Rahm Emanual?
John Acton
No Such Thing!
tuckersdad Friday, July 2nd at 4:39PM EST (link)There is no such thing as a “Single-Issue” organization. You’re either for Freedom, and are willing to fight for it on all fronts, or you’re against it. You can’t stand in the middle and try to wash your hands of the evil that’s happening outside your perimeter!
It’s time for new leadership in the NRA. Leadership that is willing to stand-up and fight for ALL the Bill of Rights, and not just make “backdoor deals” that benefit their particular organization, while letting others chisel away at the Rights and Freedoms of all Americans.
I wrote the NRA and post their response below.
dwscho Friday, July 2nd at 4:53PM EST (link)Thank you for contacting NRA-ILA regarding the recent rumor that NRA-PVF has indicated they will endorse Harry Reid.
Regarding any potential endorsement of Sen. Reid in the upcoming elections, NRA-PVF has not yet announced any ratings or endorsements in this race. Ratings and endorsements will be determined closer to the election. It is important to note, however, that the NRA is a single issue organization and that when our ratings and endorsements are announced, they are based solely on a candidate’s support for, or opposition to, our Second Amendment rights. Other issues, as important as they may be to many people, do not and cannot play any role in those decisions. NRA represents a broad coalition of American gun owners, who are bound together by their support for the right to keep and bear arms.
In 2004, Senator Reid was rated “B” in his reelection by the NRA Political Victory Fund. Since then, as U.S. Senate Majority Leader, Senator Reid has proven himself to be a supporter of our Second Amendment rights. It would be accurate to say that few, if any, of NRA’s legislative victories in Congress during the last six years would have occurred without his active support.
As an example, he was instrumental in Senate passage (and eventual enactment into law) of the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act” (PLCAA)”, which shut down reckless lawsuits against gun manufacturers and dealers that attempted to hold them liable for the misuse of firearms by criminals. Sen. Reid also cosponsored S. 659 (PLCCA) in the 108th Congress and voted against “poison pill” amendments to it, including the Feinstein Amendment to renew the federal ban on so-called “assault weapons”, and the Kennedy Amendment that would have banned most hunting ammunition.
Following Hurricane Katrina, he voted for legislation, that is now federal law, to prohibit gun confiscation during states of emergency. He also voted for legislation to allow commercial airline pilots to be armed in the cockpit to protect their passengers and crew. In this congressional session, Sen. Reid voted for the Ensign Amendment to repeal Washington D.C.’s gun ban and restore self-defense rights in our nation’s capital. He cosponsored similar legislation–S. 1414–in the 108th Congress. He also voted for an amendment to allow law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-defense in national parks and wildlife refuges. This federal policy change just took effect on February 22.
Early last year, Sen. Reid emphatically stated that he would oppose any effort to reinstate an “assault weapons” ban if the Senate were to vote on it in the future. In addition, he voted last year for the Thune-Vitter Amendment to provide national reciprocity for state Right-to-Carry permits. He also voted twice for the Wicker Amendment allowing Amtrak passengers to include firearms in their checked luggage. These votes were possible only because of Senator Reid’s actions in his capacity as Senate Majority Leader. Finally, he was among the 58 Senators who signed the pro-gun congressional amicus brief in the McDonald v. Chicago case, argued before the U.S. Supreme Court on March 2nd, which will decide whether the Second Amendment applies to all states and localities.
Most recently, the NRA worked with Sen. Reid to include in his manager’s amendment to the health care reform bill a provision that prohibits the disclosure or collection of information relating to the lawful ownership, use or storage of firearms or ammunition and also prohibits lawful gun ownership, possession and use from being used as a factor to determine eligibility or premium rates for health insurance. This provision was adopted on December 22, 2009 and was included in this legislation when it was signed into law on March 23.
Finally, Senator Reid is opposed to any anti-gun treaties that might come before the U.S. Senate for ratification.
These are a few examples of Senator Reid’s support and leadership on Second Amendment issues. Given the Senate could vote on gun-related issues in the coming months, rest assured any votes will be considered in future candidate evaluations. Regarding NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox recently attending the grand opening of the Clark County Shooting Park (CCSP) with U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and other Nevada elected officials.
The CCSP is the largest shooting park in the world. This 2,900-acre state-of-the-art facility is devoted entirely to the shooting sports and is the nation’s premier shooting park. As the nation’s largest shooting sports organization, the NRA’s presence at the ribbon-cutting ceremony should come as no surprise. NRA actively worked with several Members of the Nevada congressional delegation, including Senator Reid, to ensure that this range was built. The development and construction of the CCSP has the full bipartisan support of the Nevada congressional delegation, and Nevada’s Republican Governor.
Senator Reid was instrumental in arranging not only the transfer of the then-federal lands to Clark County where the Park is located, but also in securing $61 million in funding to develop and build the Park. The Clark County Shooting Park would not have been built without his active efforts and support.
Once again, thank you for your inquiry.
Yours in Freedom,
Michael Land
NRA-ILA Grassroots Division
Check out NRAWOL.net
carlosperdue Friday, July 2nd at 9:03PM EST (link)“…I’m surprised Wayne LaPierre suddenly became so stupid”
It’s hardly sudden. Check out NRAWOL.net
"Yours in Freedom"
carlosperdue Friday, July 2nd at 9:12PM EST (link)Michael Land uses the “NRA is a single issue group” excuse for undermining constitutional liberty: Cutting dirty deals to gag freedom of speech in the DISCLOSE Act (and endorsing gun grabbing socialists like Reid with phony grades, money, volunteers and personal support by Wayne LaPierre.)
Then he signs his letter “Yours in Freedom”. Can’t have it both ways. If you betray the other rights, don’t sign “Yours in Freedom”.
Don't let the NRA "handle" you
henryb Friday, July 2nd at 10:49PM EST (link)The NRA is spinning all your backsides.
When they say “we do not support the DISCLOSE Act,” what that means is, “we don’t approve of it, but we’re not going to do anything concrete to oppose it.”
When they say “we are not endorsing Harry Reid” it means they are not giving Harry Reid any MONEY. In the NRA, there is a distinction between “supporting” a candidate (talking him up and working for him) and “endorsing” a candidate (giving an actual donation to his campaign). So when you call complaining that they are SUPPORTING Harry Reid and they respond by assuring you that they are not ENDORSING Harry Reid, YOU ARE BEING “HANDLED.”
Hey, the list of bad Reid votes above are on the record. Let’s see the NRA say that THIS column is a “lie,”
Don't let the NRA "handle" you
carlosperdue Saturday, October 16th at 8:45PM EST (link)True. One correction though. Actually, they’ve given Reid at least $5000 this year already, per campaign finance filings.
We Have Seen The Enemy & He Is Us
uvbogden (Diary) Saturday, July 3rd at 8:30PM EST (link)On syndicated radio, Chris Cox of the NRA-ILA, addressed the concerns about a Board “gag” order regarding Elena Kagan’s nomination to the SCOTUS. He said that any of the Board members could speak as individuals, but as far as speaking for the NRA, it was decided that nothing would be said until after Kagan’s confirmation hearings. Call it what you like, this is a gag order.
When the NRA opposed the Disclose Act with all its resources, including the threat of retaliation at the polls, there were not enough votes to pass the bill. When a carve-out for the NRA was written into the bill, the NRA dropped its opposition & the bill, then had enough votes & it passed. Now the NRA can say it doesn’t support the Disclose Act, even though its failure to actively oppose the bill led to its passage.
The NRA did not take this unusual stance based on membership needs, but based on its dependence on income from military training contracts & government pork. The NRA is truly a single-issue organization, and that single-issue is the NRA itself & their own survival.
“…an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenue to balance the budget–just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits.” –JFK
The Homintern
carlosperdue Saturday, July 3rd at 10:26PM EST (link)Of course the NRA protects Kagan. She’s part of the Homintern. Prominent members include: Larry Craig, David Brock, Wayne LaPierre, Chris Cox, Mike Huffington, Emmett Tyrrell, David McGreevey etc.
propaganda from the nra
npaul Sunday, July 4th at 8:21PM EST (link)This is the nonsense email I received from the NRA when I complained about their forthcoming endorsement of Reid:
Thank you for contacting NRA-ILA regarding the recent rumor that NRA-PVF has indicated they will endorse Harry Reid.
Regarding any potential endorsement of Sen. Reid in the upcoming elections, NRA-PVF has not yet announced any ratings or endorsements in this race. Ratings and endorsements will be determined closer to the election. It is important to note, however, that the NRA is a single issue organization and that when our ratings and endorsements are announced, they are based solely on a candidate’s support for, or opposition to, our Second Amendment rights. Other issues, as important as they may be to many people, do not and cannot play any role in those decisions. NRA represents a broad coalition of American gun owners, who are bound together by their support for the right to keep and bear arms.
In 2004, Senator Reid was rated “B” in his reelection by the NRA Political Victory Fund. Since then, as U.S. Senate Majority Leader, Senator Reid has proven himself to be a supporter of our Second Amendment rights. It would be accurate to say that few, if any, of NRA’s legislative victories in Congress during the last six years would have occurred without his active support.
As an example, he was instrumental in Senate passage (and eventual enactment into law) of the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act” (PLCAA)”, which shut down reckless lawsuits against gun manufacturers and dealers that attempted to hold them liable for the misuse of firearms by criminals. Sen. Reid also cosponsored S. 659 (PLCCA) in the 108th Congress and voted against “poison pill” amendments to it, including the Feinstein Amendment to renew the federal ban on so-called “assault weapons”, and the Kennedy Amendment that would have banned most hunting ammunition.
Following Hurricane Katrina, he voted for legislation, that is now federal law, to prohibit gun confiscation during states of emergency. He also voted for legislation to allow commercial airline pilots to be armed in the cockpit to protect their passengers and crew. In this congressional session, Sen. Reid voted for the Ensign Amendment to repeal Washington D.C.’s gun ban and restore self-defense rights in our nation’s capital. He cosponsored similar legislation–S. 1414–in the 108th Congress. He also voted for an amendment to allow law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-defense in national parks and wildlife refuges. This federal policy change just took effect on February 22.
Early last year, Sen. Reid emphatically stated that he would oppose any effort to reinstate an “assault weapons” ban if the Senate were to vote on it in the future. In addition, he voted last year for the Thune-Vitter Amendment to provide national reciprocity for state Right-to-Carry permits. He also voted twice for the Wicker Amendment allowing Amtrak passengers to include firearms in their checked luggage. These votes were possible only because of Senator Reid’s actions in his capacity as Senate Majority Leader. Finally, he was among the 58 Senators who signed the pro-gun congressional amicus brief in the McDonald v. Chicago case, argued before the U.S. Supreme Court on March 2nd, which will decide whether the Second Amendment applies to all states and localities.
Most recently, the NRA worked with Sen. Reid to include in his manager’s amendment to the health care reform bill a provision that prohibits the disclosure or collection of information relating to the lawful ownership, use or storage of firearms or ammunition and also prohibits lawful gun ownership, possession and use from being used as a factor to determine eligibility or premium rates for health insurance. This provision was adopted on December 22, 2009 and was included in this legislation when it was signed into law on March 23.
Finally, Senator Reid is opposed to any anti-gun treaties that might come before the U.S. Senate for ratification.
These are a few examples of Senator Reid’s support and leadership on Second Amendment issues. Given the Senate could vote on gun-related issues in the coming months, rest assured any votes will be considered in future candidate evaluations. Regarding NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox recently attending the grand opening of the Clark County Shooting Park (CCSP) with U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and other Nevada elected officials.
The CCSP is the largest shooting park in the world. This 2,900-acre state-of-the-art facility is devoted entirely to the shooting sports and is the nation’s premier shooting park. As the nation’s largest shooting sports organization, the NRA’s presence at the ribbon-cutting ceremony should come as no surprise. NRA actively worked with several Members of the Nevada congressional delegation, including Senator Reid, to ensure that this range was built. The development and construction of the CCSP has the full bipartisan support of the Nevada congressional delegation, and Nevada’s Republican Governor.
Senator Reid was instrumental in arranging not only the transfer of the then-federal lands to Clark County where the Park is located, but also in securing $61 million in funding to develop and build the Park. The Clark County Shooting Park would not have been built without his active efforts and support.
Once again, thank you for your inquiry.
Yours in Freedom,
Michael Land
NRA-ILA Grassroots Division
NRA is fact supporting Reid
David_P Monday, July 5th at 10:51AM EST (link)When I first heard of this, I wrote to the NRA requesting their response to the allegation. The NRA responded with the following letter to me. Needless to say I was stunned to find out they actually use my membership money to support a socialist like Reid. I am canceling my NRA membership.
Read for yourselves:
“David –
Thank you for contacting NRA-ILA regarding the recent rumor that NRA-PVF has indicated they will endorse Harry Reid.
Regarding any potential endorsement of Sen. Reid in the upcoming elections, NRA-PVF has not yet announced any ratings or endorsements in this race. Ratings and endorsements will be determined closer to the election. It is important to note, however, that the NRA is a single issue organization and that when our ratings and endorsements are announced, they are based solely on a candidate’s support for, or opposition to, our Second Amendment rights. Other issues, as important as they may be to many people, do not and cannot play any role in those decisions. NRA represents a broad coalition of American gun owners, who are bound together by their support for the right to keep and bear arms.
In 2004, Senator Reid was rated “B” in his reelection by the NRA Political Victory Fund. Since then, as U.S. Senate Majority Leader, Senator Reid has proven himself to be a supporter of our Second Amendment rights. It would be accurate to say that few, if any, of NRA’s legislative victories in Congress during the last six years would have occurred without his active support.
As an example, he was instrumental in Senate passage (and eventual enactment into law) of the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act” (PLCAA)”, which shut down reckless lawsuits against gun manufacturers and dealers that attempted to hold them liable for the misuse of firearms by criminals. Sen. Reid also cosponsored S. 659 (PLCCA) in the 108th Congress and voted against “poison pill” amendments to it, including the Feinstein Amendment to renew the federal ban on so-called “assault weapons”, and the Kennedy Amendment that would have banned most hunting ammunition.
Following Hurricane Katrina, he voted for legislation, that is now federal law, to prohibit gun confiscation during states of emergency. He also voted for legislation to allow commercial airline pilots to be armed in the cockpit to protect their passengers and crew. In this congressional session, Sen. Reid voted for the Ensign Amendment to repeal Washington D.C.’s gun ban and restore self-defense rights in our nation’s capital. He cosponsored similar legislation–S. 1414–in the 108th Congress. He also voted for an amendment to allow law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-defense in national parks and wildlife refuges. This federal policy change just took effect on February 22.
Early last year, Sen. Reid emphatically stated that he would oppose any effort to reinstate an “assault weapons” ban if the Senate were to vote on it in the future. In addition, he voted last year for the Thune-Vitter Amendment to provide national reciprocity for state Right-to-Carry permits. He also voted twice for the Wicker Amendment allowing Amtrak passengers to include firearms in their checked luggage. These votes were possible only because of Senator Reid’s actions in his capacity as Senate Majority Leader. Finally, he was among the 58 Senators who signed the pro-gun congressional amicus brief in the McDonald v. Chicago case, argued before the U.S. Supreme Court on March 2nd, which will decide whether the Second Amendment applies to all states and localities.
Most recently, the NRA worked with Sen. Reid to include in his manager’s amendment to the health care reform bill a provision that prohibits the disclosure or collection of information relating to the lawful ownership, use or storage of firearms or ammunition and also prohibits lawful gun ownership, possession and use from being used as a factor to determine eligibility or premium rates for health insurance. This provision was adopted on December 22, 2009 and was included in this legislation when it was signed into law on March 23.
Finally, Senator Reid is opposed to any anti-gun treaties that might come before the U.S. Senate for ratification.
These are a few examples of Senator Reid’s support and leadership on Second Amendment issues. Given the Senate could vote on gun-related issues in the coming months, rest assured any votes will be considered in future candidate evaluations. Regarding NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox recently attending the grand opening of the Clark County Shooting Park (CCSP) with U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and other Nevada elected officials.
The CCSP is the largest shooting park in the world. This 2,900-acre state-of-the-art facility is devoted entirely to the shooting sports and is the nation’s premier shooting park. As the nation’s largest shooting sports organization, the NRA’s presence at the ribbon-cutting ceremony should come as no surprise. NRA actively worked with several Members of the Nevada congressional delegation, including Senator Reid, to ensure that this range was built. The development and construction of the CCSP has the full bipartisan support of the Nevada congressional delegation, and Nevada’s Republican Governor.
Senator Reid was instrumental in arranging not only the transfer of the then-federal lands to Clark County where the Park is located, but also in securing $61 million in funding to develop and build the Park. The Clark County Shooting Park would not have been built without his active efforts and support.
Once again, thank you for your inquiry.
Yours in Freedom,
Michael Land
NRA-ILA Grassroots Division
waypasthadenough
waypasthadenough Friday, July 9th at 8:35PM EST (link)Amazing. Well maybe not so. The NRA was founded by Yankee generals, which should tell us much. Look up their page on Wikipedia.
I haven’t been a member of the NRA since the early 90s when I heard Tanya Metaska explain that if the candidate they do support loses they go offer money to the winner.
That’s not defending Liberty, that’s political game playing. And Liberty is what this is about, not the tools we will most certainly have to use to restore it.
If the NRA had been doing what it should have for the last 20 years, organizing, arming and training the militias to deal with these evil communist piles of garbage then maybe we’d be ready for what chuckie schemer et al might do. But no, the NRA and many so-called Second Amendment advocates are terrified of the ‘m’ word in that document.
With proper funding and leadership we could properly prepare for what will eventually be required of all who claim to love Liberty.
Don’t understand? Start here:
http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm
And don’t miss this:
http://www.willowtown.com/promo/blogclmnlongway.htm
The HomIntern, Pt 2
carlosperdue Saturday, October 16th at 10:48PM EST (link)“Of course the NRA protects Kagan. She’s part of the Homintern. Prominent members include: Larry Craig, David Brock, Wayne LaPierre, Chris Cox, Mike [& Ariana] Huffington, Emmett Tyrrell, David McGreevey etc.”
Forgot to include Lindsey Graham (and many more). Graham’s the RINO Queen of SC who drooled over Kagan in the hearings. No wonder LaPierre made sure Kagan was confirmed and put Larry Craig back on the NRA board.
This is interesting, from a lefty website:
www.bartcop.com/1650.htm
“Subject: Wayne LaPierre
I don’t care where a person’s compass may point them. But, it does bother me when someone is a hypocrite in the political arena…Wayne Lapierre is endorsing Jerry Kilgore for governor of Virginia in media ads saying Kilgore stands for the same family values that Wayne had as a child growing up in Roanoke.
Well, while Wayne Lapierre was in high school in Roanoke (Patrick Henry High class of ’67) he was my brother’s lover. Their affair lasted past graduation and on during the anti Vietnam war protest marches they attended in 1969. Not only is Wayne Lapierre gay (not that there’s anything wrong with that) but he protested the Vietnam war. Now he’s touting his high ground morality and family values. That I have a problem with.
-Archie in Roanoke”
Pretty specific. Is there anything to this? If only some patriot with money would put a PI on the case. It’s a pinko website, but they probably have a natural edge in knowing who’s gay…
Also interesting:
http://articles.latimes.com/1997-06-16/local/me-3870_1_david-brock/2
Confessions of a [Homosexual] Hit Man for the Right
David Brock, whose article sparked Paula Jones’ suit, has second thoughts.
By Lars-Erik Nelson
“[Brock] retaliates by charging that there is a “secret society” of homosexuals in high-level posts at the Republican National Committee and on the staffs of conservative congressmen and think tanks.”
I.e., the “Republican” HomIntern caucus. David Brock is the American Spectator’s homosexual former “investigative journalist” who protected Wayne LaPierre by doing a hit piece on the board faction that was trying to wrestle the NRA back from the beltway vampires who have now taken over. Brock was later fired for being too nice to Hillary Clinton in one of his books. Angry over being fired, he outs the existence of a secret “Republican” homosexual society in an Esquire magazine interview.
Anyone see a pattern?