A Bit More on Newt and Redemption


I see quite a few have taken exception with the word “redemption”. I don’t know if these complaints are lodged just to be outraged about the religiosity of the word, despite the appropriateness of its use, or if you truly think I was being literal in only the spiritual sense.

If it is the latter, I can assure you that I am using the word redemption specifically because it has more than one meaning. Most common, especially from a Christian like myself, redemption is all about the spiritual, and I don’t mind if you don’t buy that part. Redemption also means to reclaim something of value.

Most of us are looking for that second kind of redemption politically, in our economics, in our personal finances, and some are also looking for it after having had divorces.

I won’t go through and defend the things Newt has done, and I probably won’t defend the things he does in the future, but I don’t begrudge any man who becomes the champion of his own fate and chooses to go on a journey of redemption. It’s what America is made of.

Fundamentally.

Whether you are talking about the pilgrims who journeyed across the Atlantic, the patriots who took up arms to secure the ideals of the Enlightenment for their posterity, the freed slave, or the immigrant who saw, and continues to see, America as the last best hope; all of them were/are taking part in a journey to reclaim something of value – Freedom. Their pursuit of freedom and the opportunities that come with it, are – at their core – journeys of redemption, and something that most Americans instinctively understand and respect.

Aaron B. Gardner



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Mitt Romney has joined the Capitol Hill Democrats to renew these falsified erroneous charges against Newt Gingrich.

oyharward (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 2:01PM EST (link)

In 1997 US House Democrat Whip David Bonior (D-MI-12) brought 75 ethics charges against Newt Gingrich; 74 which were found to have no merit. The last charge, whether Newt funded his college class “Renewing American Civilization” properly, was too complicated a tax issue for the committee to investigate on its own, so they brought in an outside tax expert to investigate. Two charges arose out of this investigation.

Mitt Romney, on these falsified erroneous charges against Newt Gingrich, you will find it easier to get a bucket of water from a dried-up well as Newt’s record has been cleared. Do not continue your immortal and unethical activity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMpBBRUCMd8

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Mark Levin / Gov. Krispy Kreme

tyman Wednesday, January 25th at 2:32PM EST (link)

I laughed quite hard when I heard Mark Levin call Christie “Gov. Krispy Kreme”.

Levin’s guy isn’t Gingrich, but he really defended him on Monday night’s show.
Levin said that he was with Landmark Legal Foundation and was quite close to this at the time. Like you, he said that all but one of the charges were dropped. David Bonior was a bitter, bitter partisan and that was the sole reason for this outrageous investigation.

Levin said that the only reason Newt paid the fine was because he was broke.

I supported Gov. Perry, and now I’m getting more excited about Newt, and seeing Newt get the treatment he is getting is making me excited because I can’t stand to see someone be so wrongly treated.

Does anyone remember when Newt took the $1 advance on his book that came out while he was speaker? I forget what it’s called, but even though liberals took bigger advances for writing books while in office, Newt only took the $1. I remember that much.

As a Christian, I have to believe someone when they say they’ve asked for forgiveness and committed their life to God. God offers forgiveness and salvation to any one who asks for it, and our past sins are remembered no more. If that’s good enough for God, it’s good enough for me.

Sorry Willard, you’re not entitled to be president no matter how badly you try to make every other candidate look.

Mark uses that line often

ATGinCT (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 4:03PM EST (link)

and I’d like to lay claim to it. Back on Aug 31 I posted this on the Levin wall,
“Did anyone hear Chris-I8a million-krispykremedoughnuts-Chris(t-sic)ie on the radio today expounding on the sincere concern that Obama has for the people of NJ? I thought he was going to start weeping at the compassion of the dear leader Obama.”

Then within about a week or so I heard him start with the meme, yea yea I know no big deal but I got a huge kick out of it since I’m such a huge (not literally) fan of his.

Well done is better than well said. —Benjamin Franklin
Don’t mind me I’m just some “Strange__Guy” from the interwebs

 

Newton is not fit for the presidency.

sandiegovoter Thursday, January 26th at 1:20AM EST (link)

Newt Gingrich advocated an individual mandate for healthcare in his book.

He would not repeal Obamacare. It was practically his idea that spawned it.

I will not be voting for anyone named Newton this year.

Romney and Santorum are far more acceptable to me.

 
 

You post your home address?

maybenexttime Wednesday, January 25th at 8:29PM EST (link)

That’s almost as creepy as some nutjob trying to locate your home address. I don’t have any problem with your post, but seriously…posting your home address in the sig line is just plain weird.

Weird? Creepy?

avgjo (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 9:36PM EST (link)

Too trusting, IMO. I certainly wouldn’t do it, and I hope Mr. Harward will reconsider for his own sake. But how that’s ‘almost as creepy as some nutjob trying to locate your home address’?

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

 

It's not really creepy. It's just a bad idea.

sandiegovoter Thursday, January 26th at 1:21AM EST (link)

Some creepy nutjob might try to take advantage of it by doing a drive-by on your house.

It’s just a bad idea. The internet is anonymous for a reason.

 
 

Gee, wonder why media isn't running this video of Gingrich exoneration?

Common_Cents (Diary) Thursday, January 26th at 9:42AM EST (link)

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

How Newt Betrayed the 1994 Conservatives

Freedoms Truth (Diary) Thursday, January 26th at 10:01AM EST (link)

http://www.unitedliberty.org/articles/9188-how-speaker-newt-gingrich-betrayed-the-republican-revolution

“The final straw for many was the 1998 budget. When Kasich presented a budget that harkened back to the Contract with America days and included real budget cuts, Gingrich lambasted the budget-cutters in a closed-door meeting. Gingrich’s pushback against fiscal conservatives was a prelude to Congress, a few weeks before the midterm elections of 1998, passing a budget that hiked non-defense discretionary spending by over 5% that year – twice the 1997 budget deal’s increase – and funded a record amount of pork-barrel projects. It was in every way a rout of the very ideals that won the GOP a majority in Congress in the first place. When presented with an option by then-Rep. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and a number of other conservatives in the House to offset some of these hikes with spending cuts in other parts of the budget, Gingrich nixed the idea outright.”

 
 
 

Newt, Florida, and the Fed

inovrmihd Wednesday, January 25th at 2:05PM EST (link)

Admittedly this is somewhat off-topic, but the Fed has just announced that they expect to keep interest at near zero through 2014. This is effectively waging war on savers (if you want to keep your money safe in the bank or in government bonds, you will not earn any interest). The goal is to force savers to gamble their money in the stock market since that is the only way they can earn the money they need to live on (the Fed beleives that a rising stock market will help the economy). They have been grossly irresponsible, and If Newt points this out in a state like Florida, he will knock the ball out of the park.

Yep, people are subsidizing the big banks with ZIRP

Common_Cents (Diary) Thursday, January 26th at 11:49AM EST (link)

The big banks are getting free money and turning around and buying treasuries. A vicious cycle that is costing taxpayers and crowding out loans to businesses that really create jobs. But the average person isn’t informed.

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

 
 

I hope he can redeem himself..

votemout2012 Wednesday, January 25th at 2:23PM EST (link)

B/C if it true that Romney ppl talking of fixing Obama care instead of full on repeal is a deal breaker for me. That is #1 issue for me. It will be the final nail in the coffin for our country.

 

The problem with your 'redemption' theme

adamcarralejo Wednesday, January 25th at 2:25PM EST (link)

isn’t with the definition. It’s that it doesn’t fit Newt Gingrich or the attitude of the Republican base – at all.

The republican base seems, to me, to be in a confrontational and self-righteous mood. We want someone who will set ‘stark contrasts’ (EWE’s words). We want someone who will not back down or apologize.

Redemption implies a preceding humility and apology or request for forgiveness. I don’t see any conservatives apologizing, nor do I see why they should.

Maybe your watching different debates – but it sure doesn’t seem like Newt is apologizing for anyone or anything. He has assured us that he’s changed (‘redeemed’) on one narrow aspect of his personal life. That’s it – but it’s not nearly enough to be the ‘theme’ or the party or the candidate.

If anyone needs to be redeemed its the faction of the party as represented by Mitt Romney. The establishment/Rockafeller/moderate wing that lead us to disaster during the 2004-2008 period needs to apologize and be ‘redeemed.’ I don’t see Romney, or anyone else, requesting it, though.

GOP has lost it Soul; Angry wont cut it

haroldhervey Wednesday, January 25th at 2:48PM EST (link)

Too many Republicans are confusing Newt’s grandiose debate oratory with ethical behavior. Just because he can bludgeon a hapless CNN host does not make Gingrich a worthy nominee. Thrashing the media with red meat does not a president make nor does it absolve him of committing serial adultery. Even if his ex-wife’s “open marriage” charge is 100% false, the fact that Newt committed multiple adulteries is 100% true.

None of you Republicans EVER spoke of “redemption” or their Christian teachings about “forgiveness” when it came to Clinton. They rightly demanded Clinton’s removal by vote or, failing that, impeachment. Republicans also rightly screamed for Barney Frank’s removal, called for Elliot Spitzer’s scalp and demanded Anthony Wiener’s resignation. The GOP and Christian Conservatives in South Carolina were on firm moral ground when they ridiculed and castigated those politicians. Terms like “forgiveness”, “redemption” and “we should not judge personal behavior” never passed Republican lips in those instances.

And yet these same Republicans now bleat nonsensical platitudes about absolving Gingrich for similar moral failings just because he verbally crushed a liberal media guy on TV. They now “forgive” Gingrich for getting fined $300K for ethics violations, getting booted out Congress for violating conservative values and taking millions from Freddie Mac. And now they “forgive” serial adultery in return for political expediency and entertaining debate sound bites. So much for “family values”.

So Anyone Who Doesn't Vote How Haroldhervey Ordes Them To IS A Hypocrit?

Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 2:57PM EST (link)

NT.

Mr. Obama is pretending that an economic “recovery” is underway when he knows damn well that the banking system is just blowing smoke up the shredded *** of what’s left of that economy – James Howard Kunstler

 

this is sort of like holding a seance

streiff (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:05PM EST (link)

but here goes.

1. No one is absolving him of anything. But the fact that he hasn’t run away from the issue and seems to have made a life change does count with a lot of us.

2. “Removal by vote” is called an “election.” We have them in this country.

3. Clinton was not impeached for adultery. Look it up.

4. Barney Frank had a gay escort service working out of his house. How many times was he reelected?

5. I think it was NY Dems who were after Spitzer, wasn’t it?

6. Ditto for Wiener.

7. You need to read up a lot more on how/why Gingrich left the House.

8. He didn’t take “millions” unless “millions” is less than two million on your planet. Besides, he had a legal contract. Why do you hate capitalism?

9. “You Republicans” gets you shown the door. Bye.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

Harold lasted longer than I'd expected....

acat (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:15PM EST (link)

and to your points 5 and 6, I think it was more a mix of “opportunity” and “damage control”….

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That's almost word-for-word...

Bill S (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 8:37PM EST (link)

what I told streiff after he whacked poor ol’ harold.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 
 

Newt Needs a Campaign Biography

kipling (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:37PM EST (link)

He will need to set the record straight on these matters and get the true story out before the media can spin it.

He needs to define himself and his opposition before they can define him.

Campaign Biographies can written relatively quickly. He may already have some articles out there that he can simply pull together into a single volume.

Craig Shirley, who has written several works on Reagan, has a biography of Newt coming out on January 31, 2012. It says that it is “The Authorized Biography” so Newt and Shirley may well intend it to serve that purpose.

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Newt-Shirley-Craig/dp/1595554483/ref=sr_1_32?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1327523557&sr=1-32

 

*applause* Well-said, streiff, and good riddance to bad rubbish. (n/t)

Finrod (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 4:08PM EST (link)

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Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?

 
 

Read a Book

funwithknives Wednesday, January 25th at 3:11PM EST (link)

or 10, Harold. “A mind is a terrible thing…” where lack of research and being informed is concerned.
Then again, the contrast you provide does give me some comfort.
Better luck next time!

 

Not a religious person, are you haroldhervey

Right Reason (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:37PM EST (link)

You obviously don’t understand the concept of redemption. It isn’t handed out, it is sought. The one seeking it earns it through word and deed. Newt Gignrich has been forthright about the things he has done wrong in the past and, as far as I can tell, has not repeated them since his last divorce.

I don’t recall Barney Frank, Bill Clinton or Anthony Weiner ever showing any remorse, regret, or even acknowledgement that they had done anything wrong.

B the way, your last paragraph is one of the most impressive collections of half-truths (and less) that I have ever seen. Bravo, sir!

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

- Winston Churchill

He's Not Smart Enough To Be

Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:40PM EST (link)

He’s also toast. We take out the garbage here at RS on a regular basis.

Mr. Obama is pretending that an economic “recovery” is underway when he knows damn well that the banking system is just blowing smoke up the shredded *** of what’s left of that economy – James Howard Kunstler

It's a shame

Right Reason (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 10:21PM EST (link)

Like a cat, I sometimes like to play with the mouse before I finish him off.

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

- Winston Churchill

 
 
 
 
 

Newt is not my spiritual guide post.

NeoKong (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 2:39PM EST (link)

No politician is.
I do not look to people in the media or politics as my examples as to who I admire. Those sorts of people have always been much closer to me in my daily life and they are neither glamorous or famous.

In other words what I’m saying is that I do not delve into Newt’s personal issues as we have all had our failings from time to time and I am no exception.
There are those who would say that if Newt can cheat on his wife then how can he be trusted…?
To that I would say…life happens and things change.At least he married them and has tried to make it work. If that is not good enough for some …well...do what you gotta’ do.

I’m not interested in Newt’s marriage as much as I am interested in the $16 trillion dollars in debt this country has and the other problems as well.
I’ll let the couch thing slide.
I can forgive the Scozzafava thing.
I never ever cared about him resigning from the House because that matter was chump change to the real corruption has occurred by current members since.
I don’t need perfect and by the way it does not exist.

Can he beat Obama and will he be a good president….?

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Well stated NeoKong...

texastaxpayer (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 4:22PM EST (link)

At this point in the race I am kind of a “love the one your with” voter. I would have rather had someone else given the choice but Newt is who we have. Romney and Santorum just aren’t going to get it done.

“Texas will again lift it’s head and stand among the nations. It ought to do so, for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages.” Sam Houston

 
 

Understand what you're buying

bfelger Wednesday, January 25th at 2:45PM EST (link)

We have to go into this with eyes wide open.

I am 100% in the tank for Newt, but in order for that to be any kind of informed I have accept, and be willing to tolerate, areas where Newt strays from conservative orthodoxy:

1) He is squishier than I am on illegal immigration, and WAY squishier than your average Republican. And he’s bombastic about it.

2) He is (or was in the past) very obviously a total lech.

3) He is (or was in the past) a proponent of big-government solutions to AGW.

These are three issues a Newt voter has to look at and be able to say, “Ok, I am willing to accept that my choice of president holds these odious characteristics/views.”

For my part, I am. I wish none of the above was true, but it is what it is. I have to make a cost/benefit analysis on each candidate, and weight them according to my primary concerns. Consequently, I must vote for Newt.

I believe that, at the expense of the things listed above, I can purchase something greater and more important than I lose. But make no mistake, a payment is being made with Newt. You take the bad with the good, and do everything possible to mitigate the negatives with a house and senate stacked with rabid right-wingers of your favorite variety.

Newt and illegal immigration

likeaglove Wednesday, January 25th at 3:36PM EST (link)

Just wait. Newt will give us full-on amnesty if he gets the chance. He tries to dance around it, but he only barely masks his rabid desire to bring those poor illegals out of the shadows.

I nearly threw up when watching this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjYOunt5y-o

If we get amnesty, it will signal the end of the GOP. The end.

Also, if we choose Newt, the GOP can no longer claim to be the party of family values. It will make the GOP voters as hypocritical as Newt himself is.

Sorry not buying it.....

david1313 Wednesday, January 25th at 3:44PM EST (link)

No one is any better on immigration. The other candidates actually are saying they will do nothing. We already have that. Especially Romney who will allow them to self deport, until he sees he needs them for reelection then he will change again. I really believe forgiveness and reconcilliation are strong family values. He who is without sin. Is that you?

Romney

likeaglove Wednesday, January 25th at 3:58PM EST (link)

Romney needs them for primary in Florida, but he’s not backing down — despite pressure from pro-amnesty groups and ads filled with lies from Gingrich. Also, recent polls show Romney actually leading with Hispanic voters in Florida (and they’re not all Cuban, as people might think).

Kris Kobach is backing Romney. I trust Kobach 100% on the illegal immigration issue and Romney convinced him he is serious. That endorsement is the strongest one in the country, as far as I’m concerned.

Newt will give amnesty. Once you start making exceptions (like this nonsensical 25-year thing), you wind up with loopholes that 100,000 semis full of illegals can drive through.

I understand that people don’t trust Romney, but I trust that Newt IS telling the truth when he starts giving those mealy-mouthed answers on amnesty. He will kill the GOP WHEN he pushes amnesty through. Personally, I’d rather not vote for the death of the GOP.

 

One more thing

likeaglove Wednesday, January 25th at 4:01PM EST (link)

Romney stance is not to “do nothing.” It is the correct stance of enforcement. Make them so miserable and cut them off so much that they will go home themselves. That’s not what we have now. Obama is doing everything he can to make most of them stay and become future Democrats.

Santorum is pretty much as squish on this issue — from what I can tell. I’m not sure about Ron Paul. I usually tune him out. He used to be good on this issue. I’m not sure anymore.

 
 
 

Very quickly, the political battle of 2012 will become that last part.

BA Cyclone (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:44PM EST (link)

Surely we will end up with a nominee for President sooner rather than later.

It can be said from here that *conservatives* are guaranteed some level of squinting and nose-holding when we pull the lever for said nominee.

It will take some legwork on our part to assure Caudillo Obama gives no more SOTU speeches.

But the real legwork I believe will begin in earnest this summer, and continuing on for some time, for just what you said:

You take the bad with the good, and do everything possible to mitigate the negatives with a house and senate stacked with rabid right-wingers of your favorite variety.

We have to work and work and work at rebuilding the legislative branch with conservative Republicans so that we can end up with a conservative leadership with some conservative stones to move the bar in D.C. towards a Liberty and Freedom agenda.

Hopefully, our nominee is not Bush 2.0 and will instead allow us to pull in a smaller-government direction without much fuss.

“If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions.” — James Madison

“Electing Republicans who don’t have the courage of their convictions may be easier in some circumstances, but it won’t save our country.” — Jim DeMint

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Very quickly, the political battle of 2012 will become that last part.

BA Cyclone (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:44PM EST (link)

Surely we will end up with a nominee for President sooner rather than later.

It can be said from here that *conservatives* are guaranteed some level of squinting and nose-holding when we pull the lever for said nominee.

It will take some legwork on our part to assure Caudillo Obama gives no more SOTU speeches.

But the real legwork I believe will begin in earnest this summer, and continuing on for some time, for just what you said:

You take the bad with the good, and do everything possible to mitigate the negatives with a house and senate stacked with rabid right-wingers of your favorite variety.

We have to work and work and work at rebuilding the legislative branch with conservative Republicans so that we can end up with a conservative leadership with some conservative stones to move the bar in D.C. towards a Liberty and Freedom agenda.

Hopefully, our nominee is not Bush 2.0 and will instead allow us to pull in a smaller-government direction without much fuss.

“If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions.” — James Madison

“Electing Republicans who don’t have the courage of their convictions may be easier in some circumstances, but it won’t save our country.” — Jim DeMint

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WHY not Newt and Romney Drop out of the Race and

loneranger2012 (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:45PM EST (link)

Let the only real candidate win the race. The only one who is a real conserviative with a great contrast to Obama. Let the real Reagan lead our country and our party.

VOTE for RICK SANTORUM

I want what you're having.

NightTwister (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:59PM EST (link)

If you think Santorum is Reagan.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

I hope it's not contagious!

acat (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 4:03PM EST (link)

(Cheshire grin)

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Circle Circle Dot Dot Dot......

texastaxpayer (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 4:25PM EST (link)

;)

“Texas will again lift it’s head and stand among the nations. It ought to do so, for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages.” Sam Houston

 
 
 

Well, he's got you and Tonto on his side.

Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 4:05PM EST (link)

At least he’s got that going for him.

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

 

Santorum is Reagan without the success

maybenexttime Wednesday, January 25th at 8:43PM EST (link)

The real Reagan wouldn’t have lost a re-election bid by 18 points. That was the largest margin of defeat for a Republican incumbent senator in the history of American politics. Trying to compare Santorum to Reagan is like comparing the 2011 St. Louis Rams to the 1999 St. Louis Rams.

Reagan wasnt around in 2006

Freedoms Truth (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 10:17PM EST (link)

We dont know whether he would have done better or worse than the good Senators like Santorum or George Allen who were swept away in that election.

We DO know that in Reagan’s 6th year, 1986, we lost the Senate, just like happened under GWB, and good senators lost.

A better analogy would be that Santorum was on a team that got thumped, as Bush himself put it. Doesn’t mean the player was a terrible player more so than others on the team, the whole team got thumped.

 
 

I'm shocked you're not carping for Ron Paul or

mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 9:40PM EST (link)

Gary Johnson. I can’t even imagine the amount of dope you had to smoke to come up that piece of stupidity.

 

The "real Reagan" is here

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 10:15PM EST (link)

And he’s not happy…

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

 
 

Go For It

Political Fireball (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:45PM EST (link)

We’ve got to so something. Why sit around? Newt isn’t good, but I don’t know of anyone in the race that is. He has claimed ‘redemption’ and at least we may be able to control him. It’s worth a try even if he’s not perfect.

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Let's Give Him a Chance

Political Fireball (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 3:47PM EST (link)

We’ve got to so something. Why sit around? Newt isn’t good, but I don’t know of anyone in the race that is. He has claimed ‘redemption’ and at least we may be able to control him. It’s worth a try, even if he’s not perfect.

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Let he without sin cast the first stone...

texastaxpayer (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 4:27PM EST (link)

:o

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It is my hope that Newt uses his story to teach others that it is never too late to come back to the light,

center77 (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 4:48PM EST (link)

and that in the end, that is exactly what his candidacy represents; and turnaround from the past. When I read Politico’s piece yesterday about Newt’s time at Freddie Mac it made me think this is going to be over soon, but the Romney camp is no friend to conservatives, and I do not feel like having a candidate that is so blatantly pandering to the center left of this country. That simple is not going to cut it.

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Newt's Alinsky strategy

lakeshore Wednesday, January 25th at 5:47PM EST (link)

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/newt-gingrich-saul-alinsky-republican/338701

I don’t buy Newt’s “redemption”. He’s the same old Newt, just playing people off against other people, as he has always done. Too many of us Christians are gullible on the whole “conversion” theme. As for these Alinsky tactics: look for Obama’s surrogates to use them against Gingrich if given the chance. The country needs a leader who is less angry, less combative, but is a true Conservative and lives it, not just presses hot buttons. I wish I knew who that was.

Newt has changed alright

maybenexttime Wednesday, January 25th at 8:46PM EST (link)

Lately, he has been making Michael Moore cheer at the things he’s saying. That’s not the kind of conversion/redemption the Republican party is looking for right now.

 
 

Save by cheap grace

robertyates Wednesday, January 25th at 6:34PM EST (link)

Saved by cheap grace and born againism has been Satan most effective tool in America. Newt Gingrich is the classic example. The message to evangelical youth is that you can be a serious sinner and serial adulturer your entire life until you are about 70. You can repent quickly and easilty and you can be adored and defended by your very own pastor. In fact you can be elected President of the United States. No wonder that Evangelical youth commit crimes and sin at the same levels as the rest of Americans

At age 68 and with a wife young enough to be his daughter, does Newt really have the physical energy to pursue another affair? Has he really repented in his mind? No matter, Newt is saved and that terrible Mormon who has been faithful to one woman is entire life–even when he found out she had Multiple Scelorsis–is going straight to hell and is not fit to be president.

So what is it about some people that think their story of Grace is the only one?

NightTwister (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 6:45PM EST (link)

I didn’t know God had given you the ability to read a person’s eternal destiny. As a matter of fact, I’m pretty sure we’re told nobody has that.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

 

you sound bitter and judgemental...

Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle) (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 6:57PM EST (link)

I suppose you’re a Mormon… if so, you may want to re-consider the faulty notions you’re portraying, and the stupidity of attempting to represent the moral judgements of other Christian sects.

If you’re not a Mormon… then ask yourself Why worry about who’s “morally pure” if, in your view, both candidates are going to hell? (one for believing the wrong religion, and one for not properly repenting of adultery in your eyes…)

I’m just sayin’ if that’s your criteria… then vote for the one that’s more conservative sounding… and hope God doesn’t judge you for voting for the wrong one. ;)

“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. “ -James Madison

 

Newt' inability to keep his pants zipped

hls87 Wednesday, January 25th at 7:11PM EST (link)

has always been symptomatic of a serious personality disorder, and it still is. Simply put, Newt is a monster of egotism, always has been, always will be. Maybe he’s a retired lecher, but he’s still the same self-absorbed jerk who cheated on, then ditched two wives. Grace is indeed amazing. It can transform people, but it hasn’t transformed Newt. He oozes arrogance and self-satisfaction from every pore. Few among us are foolish ennough toonfuse the effects of an enlarged prostate with repentance, which is one of the many reasons Newt won’t be the Republican nominee.

Another heart reader.

NightTwister (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 7:15PM EST (link)

We seem to have a plethora of them today. May God be more gracious to you than you are to others.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

 
 

Redemption is none of my business.

iunderstand Wednesday, January 25th at 9:14PM EST (link)

That and forgiveness are between Newt and God. I won’t cast my vote for someone who is so lacking in integrity and character. He can go back to grifting fake awards as far as I’m concerned.

That makes perfect sense, iunderstand.

avgjo (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 9:31PM EST (link)

I mean Obama has so much integrity and character than Newt. Between voting against Illinois’s Born Alive act and promoting sloth and envy through his welfare agenda, he’s great! But hey, he’s never had an affair – that we know of!

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

 
 
 

"The message to evangelical youth is that you can be a serious sinner and serial adulturer your entire life until you are hanging on a Roman cross.

Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 7:02PM EST (link)

You can repent quickly and easily and you can be adored and defended by your very own Savior, on the next cross over.”

There, fixed that for you.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 

here's my story of Grace for Newt - and as NightTwister said, it is one of many...

fightnright Wednesday, January 25th at 7:16PM EST (link)

~God Will Forgive~

Be aware of God’s compassion, for it heals with oil and wine. Do not lose hope of salvation! Remember what is written -

the one who falls shall rise again,
and the one who turns away shall turn again;
the wounded is healed;
the one caught by wild beasts escapes;
the one who confesses is not rejected.

For the Lord does not want the sinner to die, but to return and live. There is still time for endurance, time for patience, time for healing, time for change. Have you slipped? Rise up. Have you sinned? Cease. Do not stand amongst sinners, but step aside. For when you turn back and weep, then you will be saved.’

St Basil the Great, in a letter to a young monk who had sinned.

(and I, one of many conservatives, believe that Clinton ought not to have been impeached for a spiritual lapse, as he was not, but for committing perjury and suborning perjury. I have no idea, nor has any other person, the ability to judge another and determine whether he or she has ‘turned back and wept’. )

"I think we ought to suspend, perhaps, elections for Congress or two years and just tell them we won’t hold it against them, whatever decisions they make, to just let them help this country recover," she said. "I really hope that someone can agree with me on that. … You want people who don’t worry about the next election." Beverly Perdue, NC Governor

If you don’t believe that Democrats will do what they say, then don’t
vote. But be warned: your 2016 vote may come too late. Vote Republican
in 2012!

 

Newt' inability to keep his pants zipped

hls87 Wednesday, January 25th at 7:16PM EST (link)

has always been symptomatic of a serious personality disorder, and it still is. Simply put, Newt is a monster of egotism, always has been, always will be. Maybe he’s a retired lecher, but he’s still the same self-absorbed jerk who cheated on, then ditched two wives. Grace is indeed amazing. It can transform people, but it hasn’t transformed Newt. He oozes arrogance and self-satisfaction from every pore. Few among us are foolish ennough to confuse the effects of an enlarged prostate with repentance, which is one of the many reasons Newt won’t be the Republican nominee.

Once was more than enough.

Bill S (Diary) Wednesday, January 25th at 8:04PM EST (link)

Three strikes and you’re out.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 
 

I don't buy Newt's pitch on redemption

nepanyrush Wednesday, January 25th at 10:37PM EST (link)

I did in the beginning of the campaign season. He had converted to Catholicism and was a new person. But then, beginning when he actually thought he could win and not just sell books, the old Newt that I followed for 3 decades resurfaced. His nasty, egotistical, scorned-earth comments seem like the “same ole, same ole” Newt that he has always been. Plus, a guy that cheats on his wife for 6 years, and the wife before that, and lies so often about his past requires more than telling me he is new to believe him.

If Gingrich is the standard-bearer, the GOP is in huge trouble. Even the very conservative women in my family — my wife and two voting aged daughters — said they could never vote for him because of what he did to his wife. They would be shocked about my morals if I outwardly supported him, and so would those in my community. So if he is the GOP nominee, I will hold my nose and vote for him, but my policy of putting out yard signs and bumper stickers and manning phone banks would have to end, or my friends and family would assume all my talking about moral values is a joke.

If Gingrich is the standard bearer, it will be an Obama landslide. Santorum first choice and then Romney. And actually, Romney has never looked so good and so conservative when put up against the progressive Gingrich, whose underhanded comments feed right into class warfare. And I pray that the GOP comes to his senses. I remember Gingrich too well. He doesn’t seem like a changed man to me.

 

Delusional

annas Wednesday, January 25th at 11:07PM EST (link)

You folks drinking the Kool-Aid for Gingrich must not have been around for his festivities in the past. He has even derided Reagan. Where are you getting this information on him that you think he can win? He has higher negatives than Obama. He cannot win with just the Republican right. He must have some independents and a few Dems. He will never get it.

 

I can forgive him and still be against his candidacy

driveinkid Thursday, January 26th at 3:02AM EST (link)

Forgiving Newt as a person is one thing. Gambling on him as being leader of the free world is another. I am OK with the former, not the latter. He is too undisciplined.

As this goes on, he is coming up with so many cockamamie schemes it is getting hard to take. His policy on immigration is a mess. He mocks Romney for saying illegals will self-deport but we already know that the states who have cracked down ARE seeing illegals leave and unemployment among citizens go down.

Newt’s “community boards” idea for determining which illegals could stay is absurd. Why would anyone show up for a hearing knowing they might be deported? Now he wants to make the moon the 51st state. Why not just do the basics correctly? Reduce spending, regulations and promote growth in the economy. Everything with Newt is some strange, “outside the box” idea, the purpose to make him sound smart. After 5 minutes of thinking about them however, his solutions all come up wanting.

 

I am concerned about a Gingrich Administration, but

luciusacius (Diary) Thursday, January 26th at 1:06PM EST (link)

I really hope he is sincere in his attempt to redeem himself, personally, politically, and spiritually. While it is hard to take any politician at his word, Newt’s recent championing of American exceptionalism and conservative principles, as well as his willingness to fight mean I support him over Romney.

Lucius Accius
“oderint dum metuant”