I wish he sounded more intelligent when he speaks. In a debate or an interview, there always is a pregnant pause between the question and the answer like gears grinding in his head. This may be mean and I am sorry for telling the truth, but this slowness does not create an aura of confidence. Better not be slow when dealing with Putin or his ilk or they will run all over or around you. Romney, Cain, Santorum and Gingrich do not have this malady.

then why feel the need to bring it up, and hash an old story yet again? Perry apologized, what does he have to do to get people to understand he made a mistake, slit his wrists in the next national TV appearance?

Would you want someone like Perry who capitulated on several issues to popular objection or someone who rammed something down your throat like Obamacare and a plethora of other radioactive, leftist moves?

You want someone like Perry who will acknowledge an error or someone who disingenuously feignts and prevariacates like Obama?

recommended by the CDC for both girls AND boys? The same vaccination that always had an opt-out and was never implemented? The same said vaccination that was very expensive and would have been paid for by insurance if it were a mandate? You are beating a tired old drum – it has been dealt with MANY times and is, and always was, a totally dead issue!

I’m talking about the Michele Bachmann attacks and the reason the lunatic fringe complained about Perry doing the devil’s work by supporting vaccinations. This would have been a complete non-issue if it had been a measles vaccine. The giveaway was Bachmann’s repeated dog-whistle references to “little 12 year old girls”.

I agree. I’m no fan of Romney. I kind of hope Perry takes out Romney so Cain doesnt have to.

This is the same annoying and condescending thing that Obama does in interviews when he doesn’t like the way the conversation is going.

Everyone made a point of saying how Perry was glaring at Romney during that exchange in the last debate, but if you want to see a real scowl, check this out from the Reagan/Mondale debates (right around 43 seconds in).

to say what he did to O’Reilly. I think he made a very good point when saying that they are serving no other purpose than to get the candidates to tear one another apart. Wallace and Baier were actually some of the worst moderators in creating that kind of atmosphere.

Sure, the Perry detractors will say he is backing away from some of them because he’s a dope and an idiot, and he can’t debate. They are going to say that anyway. You see that here on a daily basis. I would name a few names, but I think you can point to more than just a few that would rather drink dog pee than to support Perry.

As the Matt Lewis article pointed out, those that are watching the debates have mostly jumped on someone’s bandwagon anyway, and none of the candidates are going to win over the MD Democrats who watch it for the entertainment value. Perry is much better off spending his time doing what he does best. Have you noticed how many are admitting that Perry is very good on the stump and with townhalls and speeches?

Just watched Cavuto and Huckabee tear Perry a new one, again. Cavuto said that Perry wasn’t doing any more debates. Huckabee slams him for saying that he won’t be doing any more debates, and says he is not ready for the presidency if he can’t participate in the debates. Cavuto then brings up that there are so many debates, many more than in any other election cycle. Huckabee then proceeds to say that there is no way that these candidates should be attending every one of these debates, and that if he was a candidate, he would certainly pick and choose which ones he would attend. Do you see how disgusting Fox is, and how they are now even spreading rumors and lies?

My arguments for Cain:

1. On economic policy, I believe he would govern as a Reagan supply-sider. His 999 plan, while not perfect, is certainly an attempt to grow the economy the way a Reagan conservative politician should. Under Cain’s plan, I honestly believe we can make up some of our budget shortfall by growing our way out of it the way Reagan did with massive job growth and expansion of the economy. I’m convinced Cain’s instincts about the economy and creating jobs are the right instincts.

2. On social issues, I think he is intuitively conservative on these things. Look at his record. The man spent a lot of his own money to try and convince blacks to vote for Pro-Life politicians instead of the typical Pro-Choice democrat. That tells me something. I believe he has a “libertarian/states rights” streak in him about social issues but that personally does not bother me.

3. He has the ability to connect with voters in my opinion. He is a likable guy with a great personal story that represents what conservatives believe in – not playing the victim card but using your God-given talents to be productive in society. This ability to connect with voters will serve him well when compared to the dour and often petty Barack Obama. It will also serve him well, when he tries to get the American people on his side to urge Congress to pass difficult pieces of legislation like 999.

There is more, but I’ll leave it at that for now.

I have no problem with Perry’s attack on Romney.

None at all.

If you don’t think that the Dem nominee would go after Romney on immigration, or any other trivia that Mitt piled up in his career, you’re delusional. We, those who are trying to find the best representative candidate, need to see how our champion, whichever one it is, handles some heat. Mitt? Folded.

I give the same credit to Mitt for pushing into Perry’s personal space… but I note that Perry handled that attack much better than he’d handled the pile-ons in the early debates.

Perry no longer seems to wilt under fire. I’ll take that over Mitt-toast any day.

Mew

As opposed to what they actually believe and how they actually govern? Didn’t we already do this with Obama back in 2008? Again, I am looking for someone who articulates true conservatism – not someone who is the smoothest talker. To me, in spite of his lack of verbal skills in doing so, Perry is the most conservative candidate we have.

You’ve made note that you like Perry’s politics and his record. That’s good and it is my hope and my prayer as we give Perry a second look that others as well will look less at his debating style and more at his record and how he articulates conservative philosophy. I also hope that people will see the strengths of both his economic and tax policies and get on board with him.

just a Cain-bot. Perry is mean spirited?? Please go cry somewhere else cause I get tired of people dumping on him for that. First it was because he would not engage and now it is because he was a little meanie. Time to man-up and Perry did that to force Romney off his tower. I loved it.

wait ’til you get the pleasure of the Herman Cain robo-calls that are in the field this afternoon. It starts off by refering to other Republican canddiates as “liars”.

I’ve never heard such a nasty robo-call.

in this election cycle. 2012 will break records for the amount and intensity of nastiness in American politics. The Democrats will run on race like they did in 2010 claiming that anyone who disagrees with Obama does so because they don’t want a black man in the White House.

Personally, I would rather have a candidate who’s willing to give as good as he gets and fire back at the Democrats with both barrels blazing. We don’t need wishy-washy, flap-floppy nice this game; we need tough!

…that Cain has undergone sharp criticism. And not just by Democrats either. (Karl Rove is not a Democrat, last I checked.)

The reason why Cain has managed to fend off such criticism (so far) is that he has something that neither Perry nor Romney have shown: The ability to connect with potential supporters on a deep personal level. Cain doesn’t have to work so hard to sell Americans on his ideas, because he’s able to sell Americans on himself.

Perry *could* have done that too, if he didn’t keep acting like he’s still running for some office in Texas rather than President of the fifty states.

We have a grate over our exhaust port..

that’s the point. The few billionaires who ARE getting away with paying low tax rates can continue to do so, while the rest of the upper class that now pays much more than 20% all get a huge tax cut.

I just don’t know how you sell that to a country that still thinks we need to let the Bush tax cuts expire for cryin out loud.

Your final point was spot on until you said that revenue cuts would force congress to stop spending. Lack of revenue hasn’t stopped the politicians from spending for decades now. Deficit spending is here to stay, until the house of cards crashes, because the alternatives are politically unfeasible. Restricting revenue before restricting spending doesn’t starve the beast, it just balloons the deficit.

Btw, did you know Ron Paul proposes we cut $1 trillion in spending next year? ::ducks head::

You see its not plagiarism if you mix two well known soundtracks…

HAHAHAH! Is this what things have been reduced to?

The music was clearly a knock off.
I’m not the one who used it.
I only pointed it out.
Nothing reckless about it.

Now I would have sworn that it was Tinkerbell, floating above the RS site, waving her magic wand and spreading all that Cain fairy dust of Hope and Change II over one and all, and passing out free rose colored glasses.

NeoCong, do you know where I can get one of those cool black lids Cain had on in his townhall this morning? Man that made him look tough, and like the Marlboro man, didn’t it?

LOL

stunned at the moronic comments of some folks – slamming others with accusations that don’t even resemble the truth. Yep, this one belongs in the graveyard with the others!

As for the “ex Perry staffers” and “crony capitalist” comments – I’m certain that KBH, the Bushies, et al., have scoured every nook and crany to get some dirt there (along with the other places they’ve searched). So far, NADA! Good grief!

I mean, I know its annoying that it auto plays every time the page loads… =(

But tell us what you did wrong so the rest of us can learn!

Got any hints as to where to look?

The manufacturing site for the No. 1 “Cadillac” of field reciprocating compressors in the world is located in Mount Vernon, OH. The company is Ariel Corp. The employees are union.

There are a fair number of companies which manufacture the equipment used to drill and service wells, as well as pipelines, and the processing plants to separate the various products before natural gas goes into transmission lines. Many of these are located in the Midwest and ARE union.

Don’t forget (if you ever knew) that several of the “Rally for Jobs” which was against the Gulf of Mexico drilling moratorium (now “permitorium”) were held in Union Halls in the Great Plains and Midwest. Union members (old line AFL-CIO) understand more than most of the public (and pundits) do.

“Can Cain Win the Nomination?’

http://minx.cc/?post=323141

Another recommended read:

Cain Spokesman: Cain Has Now Learned More About The Issue of Abortion and Supports Exceptions for Rape, Incest, or Life of the Mother

Pertaining to an event last night, a quote from Ace:

“There is a big problem in claiming you Know What’s In A Candidate’s Heart when it’s pretty clear the candidate himself doesn’t know.”

http://minx.cc/?post=323143

Puhthetic!

I guess they are relying on the stupidity of voters to fall for this.

That is pathetic of the Cain camp, Bachmann’s doing similar things spouting off about how Perry is calling for the Tea Party to to ask her to get out of the race (all sorts of non-sense). These are the things candidates d as a result of being desperate. Cain’s camp is just pathetic.

what most people don’t know, is how similar Perry’s proposal is to Santorum’s actual bill. (S. 3564 109th Congress)

That bill proposes fences only in major population areas, and in areas where there is additional surveillance resources. It also calls for multiple sources of boots on the ground, including former military and former police, authorized to monitor the border. Betcha didn’t hear Santorum mention that bill, did you? That is because he didn’t mention it. It is too much like Perry’s border security policy.

My philosophy still stands; you will be told, in indirect ways, who not only the press fear, but who the other candidates fear. Romney has an entire website devoted to bashing Perry. Cain will allow his minions to do the same, via emails and/or ads. Cain may be hauling in the money now, but it will not be enough and maybe he thinks he can reproduce Obama’s ground troops movement to make up for the lack of funding. I don’t think he can.

I am not even on their radar. The points I made are my own.

1. Spin it anyway you want giving illegals benefits is not my idea of the solution and telling me I have no heart probably reinforces my choice not to vote for you.,
2. Spin again, the whole gardusil decision and pushed through with an executive mandate even with the opt out is a horrible big lib elite choice. At least he got it eventually, but what does it say about Perry’s natural thought line, sounds like he still works for Gore to me.
3. He is a bad debater, it will matter, people that will not do any other research will hear his inane, poor performance and draw a conclusion that their is no reason to look further
4. We agree, the media is baiting Perry. Can he wise up in time? My magic eight ball says probably not.
5. I am leaning, leaning Cain, I have not decided. Cain is also making gaffes. I notice that his gaffes really expose him for being a conservative and the Liberal establishment really gets insane about his views. Perry’s gaffes have exposed him for thinking if you believe in stopping immigration you are heartless, that he is too dumb not to get baited on the birther issue and that he has a lack of focus. I will take a conservative gaffe machine over a big government liberal insult conservative gaffe machine any day.

We don’t need another crony -ist in washington. We need a proven leader in business.

Ben Adler of The Nation;

“In the third quarter Perry raised the most money of any Republican candidate, an impressive $16.3 million in just forty-nine days. As he always has, Perry depended heavily on donations from executives in environmentally destructive industries such as oil, gas, chemicals and waste disposal. Perry’s top eight donor corporations include three energy companies: Murray Energy ($66,803) Clayton Williams Energy ($43,300) and Occidental Petroleum ($36,000). The corporate social responsibility group Action For Our Planet named named Occidental Petroleum the sixth-most-unethical company in the world in 2010.

“Meanwhile Perry’s allied Super Pac, received $100,000, more than half their total receipts, from Harold Simmons, a Texas investor. Simmons has donated generously to Perry in the past—he is Perry’s all-time second-largest donor—in exchange for Perry’s support for Simmons’s business interests.”

http://www.thenation.com/blog/164190/rick-perrys-iowa-ad-voters-or-donors

Romney’s no better. Wall street journal has this about some of his supporters.

“Mr. Romney has won over twice as many of the Bush backers as Texas Gov. Rick Perry so far, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of newly released fund-raising reports. It’s the latest sign of Mr. Romney’s steady accumulation of support among party bigwigs..”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204505304577000182939324276.html

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In contrast, Herman Cain has run his campaign carefully, almost frugally. No debt I see him running the country the same. HIs donations are coming in now mostly from the average grassroots supporters :

“UPDATE: Herman Cain’s campaign reported his fund-raising for October has reached $5 million.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/10/28/herman-cain-raises-3-million-in-october/

Five million for October ALONE!!! So who is he going to have to answer to? I’m thinking the grassroot voters, not cronies. Does he have some big money friends. I’m sure. But his majority of cash is coming from the average hard working joe/jane.