Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush came out to dash a bit of cold water on the GOP presumptive nominee’s big plans.

From Politico today:

Speaking to MSNBC contributor Nicolle Wallace, who served as his press secretary in Tallahassee, Bush called Trump “to his credit … very smart at exploiting these kind of opportunities.”

“He’s a master at understanding how the media works — more than anybody I’ve ever seen in politics. Kudos to him, for kind of creating the environment and then manipulating the environment to his effect,” Bush said in the interview airing in full Monday night.

There will be no wall built, Bush told Wallace, and Mexico will not pay for it, nor will there be a ban on Muslims.

This comes on the same day that an interview with former Texas Governor Rick Perry was released, stating that the border wall, as proposed by Trump, couldn’t happen.

Perry has said he will support the presumptive nominee, however. Bush has yet to voice any support.

“This is all, like, an alternative universe that he created,” Bush said of Trump. “The reality is, that’s not going to happen. And people are going to be deeply frustrated and the divides will grow in our country. And this extraordinary country, still the greatest country on the face of the earth, will continue to stagger instead of soar. And that’s the heartbreaking part of this, is I think people are really going to feel betrayed.”

Many already do, Governor.