Arguing with Leftists Idiots: Vol. 1

Sunday’s cowardly, midnight-ish vote by the Demarxists was a life changing event for myself and my wife and I’m sure for many of us here at Redstate. It was our Pearl Harbor, except we knew it was coming. It was telegraphed from the moment Obamao was selected as the 44th POTUS. But what was so important about Sunday night was that it completely changed the political paradigm in this country for a generation. People at work who I thought were either leftish or apolitcal are openly talking about how bad this bill is and more importantly how the Democrats represent everything wrong about this country.

Much like what Chemical Sam mentioned in his diary today, Sunday’s vote means war. The bill and these Marxists have launched an all-out assault on the freedoms and liberties that this country has cherished for over 230 years. I will not be silent anymore. They picked this fight and I will do my best to end it. And part of this battle is openly confronting known Statists about every issue, every position, and everything un-American that they push. My wife and I have had enough. We have a 9 and 7 year old and tonight for the first time we read the Declaration of Independence to them. Word for word as if we were standing in the middle of Independence Hall beaming with pride as we read the sacred words of this country’s founding.

Part of my family’s escalation of the defense of our beliefs is ramping up confrontation. Every opportunity we have to confront a co-worker, a family member, friend or acquaintance we will seize….right out of Rules for Radicals. An as these confrontations continue I thought I would start to chronicle the exchanges here at Redstate.

Below is the first installment…..a word for word exchange from Facebook and I have replaced the names for privacy. Let me be clear….these people are the enemy. Without a doubt the enemy. So here we go, Arguing with Leftist Idiots, Volume 1, the escalation of rhetoric between American and Marxists.

The post that started it all:

GFG: yes! health care for all! but republicans moved to recommit the bill to committee. during speeches against motion a representative yelled “baby killer”. such vitrol and hatred is sad. Wrong. just plain wrong

BN: Did you read on the National Catholic Review where 59,000 nuns sent letters to congress AND the bishops letting them know that the health care bill would actually provide more coverage for pregnant women and their babies and wouldn’t increase abortion coverage at all. They basically said that people were either mistaken or lying (and some of the bishops were the ones saying it….) I was proud of them!!!

JF:Vitriol results when the people you elect go against the will of the majority in a shameless power grab. Shame on Pelosi, Reid and the rest of the pack of spineless followers.

BN: You must not be seeing the same polls I am Mr. Fxxxx….the majority of American’s did want this.

JF: You’re right, I must not be seeing those polls.

…..so this is the point when I start to chime in:

Stephen Halsey : I’m a fraternity brother of GFG’s. Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll this past weekend had 40% wanting nothing done and 36% wanting to start all over. 3/4 of the American people wanted nothing to do with this bill. No poll anywhere the past six months had a majority of people wanting this bill, not CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC or NBC. The elected representatives ignored the will of the people and they will pay dearly in November.

….so this is when BN starts to spew the Marxist talking points:

BN: Wow….really folks???? It upsets you that much for all Americans to have health insurance? Let me guess…you’ve all got it right? The polls I’ve seen have said that 67 t0 80% of Americans want reform. I don’t think I’d call Fox’s poll objective.

…..and my retort to this idiocy:

Stephen Halsey: BN, it’s not a question about people having insurance or not. It’s a question of whether it is the responsibility of the government to provide it or mandate the purchase of insurance. Please read the Constitution. Nowhere does it provide Congress or the federal government the authority to mandate the individual to purchase a product. And no the Commerce Clause, with years of abuse by Congress and the courts, does not allow this much federal latitude.

Many Americans do indeed want health insurance reform but I dare you to find a poll that says 70%-80%, much less 40% wanted THIS reform. This is government intrusion into the market place and the individual life on an unprecedented scale. This bill does NOT provide ‘free’ health care for all. It provides a MANDATE for you to purchase insurance. If you are below a certain income level then insurance companies through government subsidies will provide you a government approved policy. You will find many small and medium sized businesses will find it cheaper to pay a fine than to provide a company plan so they will cancel your coverage but will not pass those savings along to the employee…..a simple business decision. Yet everyone beyond the family of 4/$88,000 threshold will be forced to either go without coverage and pay the IRS or spend upwards of $14,000 for a government mandated plan. Do you know how many families of 4 are out there making that? A lot….. Think small business, electricians, plumbers, mechanics, receptionists, paralegals…..everyday Americans. And they will be forced to choose between putting food on the table or pay 25% of their take home pay for a crappy government policy.

It really is much more than the utopian notion of free health care for all…….

…..so in typical cowardly Leftist fashion she responds:

BN: You’re right….I wanted health care reform but not this one. I would have liked to see one more along the lines of what Mexico has. But we’ve gotten this, which is better than nothing in my book.

Just one question and then I’m leaving this discussion. Why does everyone suddenly want me to “read the constitution?” I’ve read it and I’ve seen nothing in the last year to even come close to the constitutional ludicracy we saw in the 8 before that.

So…..this whole exchange with a complete stranger in Facebook-land demonstrates a whole bunch:

Leftist idiots cannot talk specifics about the monstrosity just passed.
Leftist idiots, when presented the facts about the bill can only assume the fetal position and whine “Boooooosh” and “The last eight years……”.
Leftist idiots actually think that the ideal health care model is in Mexico…….freakin’ Mexico!!!! but what was just passed is a step in the right direction. Notice the quote from BN….
‘better than nothing’. So the best health care system in the world was nothing in this person’s mind…..IDIOT!!!!
Leftist idiots just make crap up to support their case…..never mind the facts.
Leftist have no regard for the Constitution. And just exactly was the ‘Constitutional lunacy’ this person saw the past eight years???

I will tell you fellow Red-Staters….this is what we’re up against. This is the enemy. Know them well. Confront them at every occasion. Do not allow them to get away with lies, distortions and exaggerations. An remind them that if they don’t like it here then just GET OUT! Why suffer under the greatest country ever created when you can go live in socialist utopian bliss in Mexico or Cuba or Venezuela.

Redstate, this is a battle we can win and will win.

Confront everyone at every opportunity.

Use these rules at every opportunity each an every day:

Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent.
Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rule
Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.
Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. “If your people aren’t having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.”
Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose.
Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

Marxists and Alinskyites for years have used these rules against us, spewing lies, hatred and divisive insults against true Americans. But everything changed Sunday night. We must use these rules against these occupiers of our House, our Government.

We speak the truth.

You cannot dispute the truth and we must push back hard at every opportunity using the same rules, the same tactics as these invaders.

As my wife and I continue to confront every Leftist at every opportunity it’s my intent to continue with with volumes of Arguing with Leftist Idiots. I will do everything in power to expose, ridicule and defeat these evil-doers who seek to destroy this country.