When Illegals Don't Think They're Here Illegally, Chaos Ensues


PREFACE: This in not about the young children crossing the border. This is about adults and their thinking, not children.

A very vocal and visible illegal immigrant, Jose Antonio Vargas, wrote about his visit to the border town of McAllen, Texas in Politico Magazine and the vigil he lead for the unaccompanied alien children:

….a crowd of about 30 people—mostly undocumented youth, a few citizen allies—started chanting something in Spanish, a language I don’t speak. Her head on my shoulder, with tears in our eyes, she translated the chant for me:

“No me digas illegal”/Don’t call me illegal

“Porque eso no lo soy”/Because I am not

“llegal son sus leyes”/Illegal are your laws

“Y por eso no me voy”/And that’s why I’m not leaving

Yes you read that correctly: It’s America’s laws that are illegal, not those that break them.

For those that want to give a pathway to citizenship for the 11M here illegally, those supposedly living in the shadows that just want the American dream like immigrants before them, think again. This is a prevailing thought for some that they deserve to be here just like any American born here and those that took the legal route to get here.

And it’s not new. A Zogby International poll from 2002 found that a majority of Mexicans think that the U.S.  stole Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, and California from Mexico in an unjust war. There are often referred to as Reconquistas, meaning the reconquest of the US southwest by Mexico or ‘Aztecs’.

The poll found that 58 percent of Mexicans agree with the statement, “The territory of the United States’ southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico.” Zogby said 28 percent disagreed, while another 14 percent said they weren’t sure.

Meanwhile, a similar number – 57 percent – agreed that “Mexicans should have the right to enter the U.S. without U.S. permission,” while 35 percent disagreed and 7 percent were unsure.

Interestingly, as we watch what is happening on the border today, the same poll taken in 2002, found little support for increasing the number of immigrants  and was in favor of using the military to protect the border:

Fully 65 percent of Americans, Zogby said, don’t support granting amnesty to illegal immigrants currently in the U.S., as President Bush has advocated, compared to 26 percent who do support it.

Also, 68 percent said they agreed that U.S. troops should be temporarily deployed along the U.S. border “to help the U.S. Border Patrol curb illegal immigration.” Twenty-eight percent disagreed, while 3 percent said they weren’t sure.

That was the mood twelve years ago and it’d be helpful to see a new poll using the same questions today to gauge the sentiments of both Mexicans and Americans.

California was ground zero for the Reconquista movement. It’s possible it came to a head when the state passed Prop. 187 in 1994, from Wikipedia:

California Proposition 187 (also known as the Save Our State (SOS) initiative) was a 1994 ballot initiative to establish a state-run immigration status screening system and prohibit undocumented immigrants from using health care, public education, and other social services in the U.S. State of California.

Eerily, the president at the time said the same as today’s, that it’s the purview of the federal government, not the state:

President Bill Clinton urged Californians to reject Proposition 187 as an impediment to federal policy on immigration. After admitting that “it is not wrong for you [Californians] to want to reduce illegal immigration,” Clinton asked voters to allow the federal government to “keep working on what we’re doing.”

And what did Vice President Gore say at the time:

We’re proud to stand with you against Proposition 187 – we’ll fight Proposition 187 in other states as well… We’re counting on you. You really hold the key. Hispanics are on the move. Some states don’t want to make it easy to register [voters] so we’ve sued Pete Wilson.

I’m having a serious case of de ja vu, how about you?

Remember Obama’s first Sec. of Labor, Hilda Solis? Well she commented about Prop. 187 too when she was a CA state senator but it’s no surprise that she had her hand in the cookie jar then and now:

We’re all Americans, whether you’re illegal or not.  How many Latinos do you know can get $1 million from Clinton  [for voter registration]?

There are also some fringe lunatic immigrant groups that want a third country if you will, that is separate from the U.S. and Mexico, yet takes parts from the U.S. to create Atzlan. Yes it sounds crazy but a group called Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán (MEChA) was formed back in 1969 and is clearly a community agitator that hates America:

The adoption of the name Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan signaled a new level of political consciousness among  student activists. It was the final stage in the transformation of what had been loosely organized, local student groups,  into a single structure and a unified student movement.

Adamant rejection of the label “Mexican-American” meant rejection of the assimilation and accommodationist melting  pot ideology that had guided earlier generations of activists. Chicanismo involves a crucial distinction in a political  consciousness between a Mexican-American (Hispanic) and a Chicana/o mentality. El Plan de Santa Barbara speaks to such  issues of identity politics by asserting….

What this means is a transfer of power, it means control, it means who’s going to influence. And it is the young people, the people who are now moving to develop an agenda for the 21st century. They are really going to be in a position to really make the promise of what the Chicano movement was all about in terms of self-determination, in terms of empowerment,        and even in the terms of the idea of an Aztlan!

I feel we’re in a time warp and we’re back to square one on this issue after reading all the events from the 1990’s. The arguments are the same and the sides are just as defined now as they were then with one huge exception.

That exception is that the illegals today are more emboldened with a renewed sense of entitlement. And why wouldn’t they be? We have a president that is giving them special treatment for breaking the law, hosts them at the White House for recognition and the Democrats and some Republicans want to give them amnesty! What’s not to like?

This diary* was prompted by reading a HotAir article titled “ICE has the chance to catch Jose Antonio Vargas RIGHT NOW”. Knowing who he is, I agree as he openly flaunts his illegalness and wrote a documentary titled, “Documented” that aired on CNN recently. He, like so many others that are here illegally, think it’s just fine and America is to blame for their plight. They act as if they are victims and want to make Americans and legal immigrants feel sorry for them, as if America did some injustice to them.

In a way, they are no different than the Occupy Wall Street thugs. The system is oppressive and it’s just too hard for then to come here legally so therefore they will take what’s theirs by hook or by crook.

Yes, we are witnessing demographic warfare on Americans and legal immigrants that oppose open borders and are for the rule of law. It’s truly astonishing to know that our biggest protagonist is the federal government, specifically the President of the United States of America.

I’ll leave you with this from the LA Times that portends today’s situation on the border:

More than 200 Orange residents and others from around the Southland attended a City Council meeting during which Police Chief John R. Robertson was accused of turning Orange into a haven for illegal immigrants.

“One thing we know about immigrants is that they communicate back. And they will say how they’ve been treated,” Otis Graham, a professor at UC Santa Barbara, said at the Tuesday night meeting. “The word will get out that they take care of you in Orange, whether you are a citizen or not.”

That meeting and quote were from 1992. Sending the wrong signals aids and abets illegal immigration. Some things never change.

*And I got lost in the ether because I couldn’t recall the name, Reconquistas, but knew there was a name for those that think the Southwest is their land…as if a war wasn’t fought and won.

Read more stories about the history of immigration policy in CA at http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/california-coalition-for-immigration-reform

and my other thoughts on immigration, including finding out who the 11M are and if they want to become citizens, before granting amnesty.






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