AHMADINJAD's TRUTHERISM: RedState vs. Alex Jones's Infowars?

Last night, I posted here: “Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says 9-11 was an inside job, and Alex Jones says…nothing?” We now have a few articles on the subject (one attacking me & you). Alex Jones’s Infowars.com is firmly on the side of Trutherism and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

I believe that Alex Jones’s philosophy of personal liberty, limited government and anti-world government is ultimately correct, and I’m saddened that “9/11 was an inside job” poisons a good well.

Lets start with the attack/defense:

Establishment Feigns Outrage At Ahmadinejad’s 9/11 Rant
Paul Joseph Watson
September 24, 2010
The spectacle of a minority of UN diplomats walking out on a speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in which he questioned the official story behind 9/11 was instantaneously seized upon by the establishment media and exploited as a way of demonizing any inquiry into the terror attacks.

The media hyped the event as a massive walkout even though the majority of diplomats remained seated during the speech, and launched a talking point centered around feigned outrage in an effort to characterize skepticism of the 9/11 official story as an extremist, fringe viewpoint held by vulgar people.

I wrote that the fact that Iranian president went truther at the UN doesn’t necessarily change the validity of the argument, but it does give one pause.

Ahmadinejad may be a petty dictator and an odious character who oversees a regime of oppression and disregard for human rights, but he hasn’t invaded and occupied any countries and he hasn’t been involved in the murders of over a million innocent people, unlike a certain Tony Blair, who upon the recent release of his book was lauded by the establishment press and is regularly applauded by UN delegates when he makes speeches in front of diplomats.

Are they seriously arguing that Tony Blair is more of a criminal than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? Did Tony Blair deny the holocaust and threaten a nuclear genocide?

Just because Ahmadinejad discusses a certain topic doesn’t instantly discredit the basis of that issue.

Agreed. I said that.

Indeed, despite the fact that blowhard neo-cons who acted as cheerleaders for George W. Bush’s brutal and disastrous invasion of Afghanistan as a means of figuratively extending their stunted manhood are claiming Ahmadinejad brazenly stated that “9/11 was an inside job,” [MY REDSTATE POST IS CITED–B.P.] in an effort to demonize Alex Jones, this actual term was never even used and in reality Ahmadinejad merely listed the different culprits people around the world have blamed for the attacks.

In reality, Ahmadinejad afforded equal time to the official U.S. government version of the events and never even specifically embraced any of the explanations put forward.

So-called opponents of big government like the folks over at Red State love to defend the sanctity of the official 9/11 story, despite the fact that 9/11 was used to triple the size of government and set up the covert police state that now targets conservative Americans as domestic terrorists.

The rest of the post is very long and I don’t have time to debunk or discuss it all. You can read it for yourself and draw your own conclusions.

I’m certainly no fan of President Barack Obama, but the U.S. delegation did the right thing in walking out. The president’s comments were also sharply and correctly made. From Hot Air:

Video: Obama rips Ahmadinejad for Truther speech at UN
posted at 10:07 pm on September 24, 2010 by Allahpundit

A blog called One Bad Apple nicely pulls together everything I want to say on this issue:

Sep 24, 2010
While I’m a big fan of conspiracy theories as they amuse me to no end, some I feel grow tiresome. Such is the case with the Truther movement, the collection of Americans who believe 9/11 was orchestrated by the US government.

While I believe it’s important to be skeptical of our leaders and to question and analyze evidence presented by them, I don’t understand the followers of Alex Jones or others who think the Bush administration was behind the deaths of so many Americans on that tragic day. Truthers would have you believe they’ve covered all specifics when it comes to the science behind their theory, but upon closer examination you can easily tell the story they buy is horse shit. No amount of their so called experts has ever submitted or passed a peer review regarding their tale, but that doesn’t matter. If you successfully debunk their nonsense you’re either passed off as sheep or labeled as being in on the conspiracy.

Now, with emotion…

The fact that they can’t accept that a few hijackers thwarted our security to bring terror to the world speaks volumes about their body politic. In their conspiracy they give Al-Queda a pass, believe the Bush administration was actually competent, think thousands of Americans who love and serve this country are somehow in on the attacks, and denote the bravery of so many that day, from the passengers on flight 93 to law enforcement and firefighters. Some will even tell you with a straight face that the phone calls made by the victims on those planes were faked, which I find so personally disgusting I have to stop myself from getting violent when I hear such a ludicrous statement.

The film “Screw Loose Change” and the book “Debunking 9/11 Myths” are listed for those interested in knowing more.

Recently Iranian President, Holocaust denier, and all around corrupt asshole Mahmoud Ahmadinejad spoke in front of the UN rambling his nonsense. After he denounced capitalism, even though his country benefits highly from his oil exports, the President decided to share his opinion on how the US government was behind the 9/11 attacks. What’s more interesting about this is his rhetoric was met with a round of applause by many representatives of our world’s countries.

So to you Truthers, this is the company you keep?

My thoughts exactly. Good points.

Oh, but there’s another Infowars article today:

Even your best friends won’t tell you
Jerry Mazza
September 24, 2010
As I remember, that has been a headline for everything from bad breath to dandruff sufferers to those suffering from body odors. The headline was ideal shame-making for manufacturers of mouthwashes, dandruff shampoos, deodorants and antiperspirants. And now it applies to our purported worst enemy, the President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmedinejad. That is, he’s telling us what none of our “best friends” in our government are saying, “that the American government may have been behind the 9/11 attack.”

Please! This nutjob is better than our best friends!

Meanwhile, Ahmedinejad went on to say what our “best friends” would never say, that “the majority of the American people as well as most nations and politicians around the world” believe that “some segment s within the U.S. government orchestrated the attack to reverse the declining of the American economy and its grips on the Middle East in order to save the Zionist regime” (read Israel). Sounds on the money to me and 1200 plus architects and engineers for AEfor911Truth.org, or Pilots, retired military officers, and journalists for 911 Truth.

Certainly, any mention of this will draw AIPAC out with fangs and claws in striking media positions to further discredit the truth-telling Ahmedinejad and ask for Zionist Israel’s right to bomb Iran back into the stone-age. That is so the Zionists can become the scourge of the entire Mid East not just Iraq (whom they prompted the U.S. and George Bush to attack) and as they have engulfed and are devouring Palestine, that is, the fragments of what is left of the nation that now is Israel, and, as they tell us, “our best friends.”

As I remember, the Five Dancing Israelis, who were celebrating the 9/11 attack by dancing on a white van…

The evil Joos did 9/11.

Anti-Semitism and Trutherism really piss me off. I understand that people can hold different views, and maybe you think my country is a lie and my religion is a lie, but I’ve looked at the evidence and it just ain’t so. It’s bigotry that must stop.

Most places wouldn’t publish crap like this, but Infowars does. Regularly.

There’s also a third Infowars article:

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: And now the hit pieces begin
Phil Brennan
September 24, 2010
Yesterday, at the annual United Nations General Assembly, the Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said in his address to the gathered world leaders that the “majority of the American people, as well as most nations and politicians around the world agree with this view” (that the attacks of September 11 2001 was an inside job).

This not only causes the vast majority of the U.S. delegates to leave the hall in disgust, but it also causes the Main Stream Media to go into fits of panic as the news spreads that someone has the guts to stand up in the United Nations and say that the American Administration, under former President George W. Bush, committed the world’s worst ever terrorist atrocity against their own citizens, and not only that, but that the majority of Americans know that they did it.
Main Stream Media publications like the New York Times and the Guardian, as well as all the major TV news channels, are going to attack rather heavily Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s statements. The only problem with this is that many other world leaders are also coming out for 9/11 Truth, including President Fidel Castro of Cuba, along with several Arab, South American, and European leaders.

The United States is always the criminal, of course. Better to trust Mahmoud Ahmadinjad and Fidel Castro.

About half of Infowars comments are just as bad:

cotullaguy Says:
September 24th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
9/11 was a inside job and the holocaust did not happen the way the jews say it did. both have evidence that reveals the truth.

I’m tired of the anti-Americanism. I’m tired of the anti-Semitism. Publishing this crap doesn’t make you a patriot.

Trutherism is now preached by Ahmadinjad at the United Nations. The Truther lie is now beyond disgusting. It’s dangerous.

Infowar.com is incredibly popular now (Compete statistics). People don’t trust the MSM and are looking for truth.

Infowars does have some good links, but Trutherism poisons the entire well.