Here’s one the MSM won’t show you!


I’m watching a town hall meeting in PA as I write this.

At the beginning Specter was listening to a very unhappy gentleman, who asked a question that Specter wouldn’t answer because the man didn’t have a numbered card. Understandably, the man got very upset and walked out of the meeting, but not before he had his say. At this point, Specter declared, “That was an example of democracy in action. Remember, I didn’t have to come here today. I don’t get paid for being here” (paraphrased). The crowd reacted unhappily to this, but not unreasonably.

Specter claims that he will not vote for a health care plan that adds to the deficit, but has no answers about how it will be funded. One gentleman asked Specter if he would make a commitment to work on the problems regarding illegal immigration, TORT reform, etc. rather than throw out the health care system that is working for most of the country. Specter pretty much blew him off and moved on to the next question.

Another gentleman made a reference to the astro-turf group, stating that he was not a member, and made it clear that nobody paid or told him to attend the meeting. He, too, felt that other changes, like Tort Reform, would be a more effective solution to the health care problem, and suggested that we give non- citizens an airplane ticket home like New York does. He also felt that the current bill leads to a single payer system. He stated: “We are not scared, but we want to be able to trust, and we don’t.” He also encouraged the senator to go back and propose a bill for term limits. This suggestion was met with enthusiastic applause. Specter’s response was that he can be voted out…”that’s democracy.”

Another audience member said that she didn’t want the government to determine where she donated her money. Specter’s response: “I will not support a bill that gives the government the right to find out what any citizen has in the bank.”

The seventeenth question was posed by a gentleman who began by telling Specter that he had supported him as a candidate, but he (Specter) had defected. He went on the voice his concerns regarding some problems with the Obama government: “Our liberties and freedoms are eroding. What about Gitmo? Did you ever read the Koran, senator? I have. All unbelievers must be killed. We don’t want this in our country…” Specter: “…Congress has spoken and insisted that Gitmo remain open until there is a plan…next question.”

Question number 19 was: Why does the government want to buy a car company that makes cars nobody wants?

Specter: “There’s no sensible answer to that…we are trying to give people a job, trying to keep a lot of dealers open…by directing GM to stop making cars that nobody wants to buy…we want them to restructure what they are doing…let them fail? The calculation is that they can be saved.”

Specter’s dander was raised when a woman asked a question about Section 1233 of the plan. She informed him: “As a 74 year-old man with cancer we would write you off according to the plan.” Specter was immediately defensive and yelled: “That is a vicious rumor! Next question.”

Another gentleman asked two questions. One about Card Check and one about Cap and Trade. “Thank you for opposing this! But high pressure salesmanship is still in force. A time line of 5-10 days to make up our mind is high pressure…and Cap and Trade will increase our electric bills by 40-50%. This will decimate what is left of our industrial sector. There will be a mass exodus of manufacturing to other countries.”

Specter: “…on Cap and Trade, we haven’t gotten a bill in the senate…we will take it up and see that we don’t lose jobs because of a tax. As far as the time line for a secret ballot, we will make sure that sufficient time is allowed for people to make up their minds. Next question.”

Another man stated that he had lived in Canada, where he paid a 60% tax rate for “free” healthcare, and had also lived in London for two years. He felt that those systems were eerily like this bill. His question touched on the requirement for seniors to have mandatory counseling for dying with dignity. He stated that he is offended by this requirement.

Specter: “I’m opposed to mandatory counseling…We can get it if we want to…It’s a personal decision.”

One of the last questions came from a disabled vet. He opened by saying: “I respect you for being who you are… [but] this is only the beginning to what is happening to America. We have a bunch of bureaucrats who are robbing us blind. Tell Washington that you are an American first… I don’t care what party you are. Would you go back and represent us as Americans first and tell Obama that he is an American?” Specter: “Yes, I will represent Americans.”

Most of the questions posed were delivered by Republicans. They thanked the Senator for attending the meeting, spoke in reasonable voices, etc. They were very respectful even though they were obviously upset; many of their hands were shaking as they posed their questions. One woman stood up in support of the bill and nobody booed or ridiculed her. Not very radical of those extremist conservatives, huh? It was a joy to watch democracy in action.

Conservatives need to keep putting the feet of the politicians to the fire in this way. Let’s not give the thugs any ammunition against us. If we come off as violently as they do we are no better. I know that I quote Scripture a lot in my diaries, and I’ll do it again: Proverbs 15:1-2 (KJV) says, “A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.” Consider the voice of Marco Rubio vs. Harry Reid. Need I say more?



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DO you have any video

izoneguy (Diary) Tuesday, August 11th at 12:13PM EST (link)

I am sure Americans would love to see democracy in action…
and take Arlen to task when he says he won’t support a bill that……

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

I watched it live on Fox News

wordsarepower (Diary) Tuesday, August 11th at 12:17PM EST (link)

sorry.

 

You Know, Specter's Right About One Thing...

farstar99 (Diary) Tuesday, August 11th at 11:05PM EST (link)

He didn’t have to be there.

He can resign any time.

 
 

Drudge has a clip of one of the first questioners

ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, August 11th at 12:46PM EST (link)

up on his site with a screen shot of Specter. The video clip is at RealClearPolitics:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/11/sen_specter_shouted_down_over_health_care.html

Thank you.

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Your name is timely, wordsarepower.

penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, August 11th at 2:07PM EST (link)

I liked your write up and discussion. But, I have to admit to a fist pump YES, when I actually saw the video ColdWarrior. I would say that Arlen Specter was flustered at the end of that exchange. the gentleman had it right though “you and your cronies.” IMO, the next election cycle will be quite a bit different than the last two. They have awakened a sleeping giant.

I want to remind people that the reason there are loud voices, shouting even, is because the Dems do not want to listen. They have come to the meetings (until now) expecting to Lecture, not listen. The people want, nay Need their voices heard. Of course, we can be respectful and orderly, but we have to be heard. The MSM is doing all they can to pretend our voices are worthless and extremists.

As I watch the MSM clips, I am literally sickened by their bias. The leftists have taken over the media and are more dangerous to our freedom than any other enemy.

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Agreed...

wordsarepower (Diary) Tuesday, August 11th at 2:44PM EST (link)

we need to be heard, and I too am sickened by the msm bias. And, since you confessed to fist pumping, I will too. I’m happy that people who have never been involved in the process before are standing up and letting their voices be heard. This meeting was a good example of how to let your voice be heard without screaming.

I also agree that the msm is the most dangerous thing going right now. They are the ones empowering the Left. I pray for a brave reporter and one brave, ethical, responsible mainstream television station to report the whole truth. I keep telling myself that there must be one out there…somewhere?

 
 
 

Thanks for the report! nt

Vegas_Rick (Diary) Tuesday, August 11th at 2:09PM EST (link)

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