
Cross-posted at Wellsy’s World.
National Review Online highlights a Quinnipiac poll showing President Barack Obama is getting a mediocre 49%-44% approval/disapproval rating among Ohioans, down from 62%-31% in early May. As this is my home state, I’m particularly interested in how the state polls, not to mention that Ohio is always an important bellwether state for national politics. Ohio’s economy continues to suffer as the American economy hemorrhages manufacturing and industrial jobs (jobs which might not be considered “green” enough to survive anyway under the cap-and-trade system on the table). This is in keeping with the recent Rasmussen poll that has the so-called “passion index” widening another point against the President.
A quick note: polls can be an important snapshot of the mood of the country, and a helpful tool in gauging the atmosphere among the voting public, but nobody should live or die by them. Conservatives and Republicans might be heartened that Obama’s numbers are going down, indicating the stratospheric messianic aura about him is fading to mediocrity, and there is surely ample cause to believe that.
It’s hard to imagine, though, that Obama will continue to fall throughout his Presidency. At some point, the economy will begin to turn around, not through massive government stimulus spending, but through the natural economic rebuilding that always takes place after a contracting period. At that point Obama’s numbers will pick up as his supporters try to incorrectly point to the growth of government as the cause.
This is, of course, taking the optimistic view that the economy, through the perseverence and determination of the American people, actually does improve, and that the crushing debts and deficits don’t immediately bankrupt the nation. This may actually be less likely than you might think, given that on top of a massive budget deficit and numerous spending bills, the Obama administration seems hell-bent on handicapping industry with its manufacturer-punishing cap-and-trade system, raising energy costs with the same bill, and adding on to the public debt in a major way with an expensively unsustainable public health option.
What it boils down to is my hope that, for the good of the country, the economy does improve, regardless of whether it means Obama gets a bounce. But the path we’re headed down gives me grave doubt about the nature and strength of a potential recovery, which means that to my reading, Obama might want to get accustomed to lowering poll numbers.
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At some point, the economy will begin to turn around
izoneguy (Diary) Tuesday, July 7th at 9:43PM EST (link)Not while Obama is president. If any of the rest of his agenda gets passed you can put a fork in the economy. Obama will then push a 2nd “stimulus” so he can complete buying the socialist check list of goodies. My clients are hopping mad about what Obama is doing. And they vow that they will close there doors if Cap & Trade and National Health Care gets passed. Many have already gone on “vacation” for the next few years. The American economy is now hostile to the small business person. Look for job losses to increase now that Biden & Obama have basically admitted that they don’t know what they are doing. They know what they are doing and are playing bad cop, dumb cop. Obama’s agenda was to bring America to it’s knees, he did a great job…the American economy is on life support and Obama is standing on the oxygen tube.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Yeah, I do not have much faith in a 2003 economic turnaround...
DONTREADONME (Diary) Tuesday, July 7th at 11:16PM EST (link)either so long as the policies of the Democrats are forced on the economic engines of America. Unless, and this is a big unless, the GOP regains the House and Senate and starts keeping the Presidents policies anemic we are in for a very stagnant economy with no growth and continuous malaise. Look back to the seventies though they may be glory days in comparison to what we are in for. My only glimmer of hope is that corporations will find a way to side step the President and overreaching arms of the Federal Government by coming up with some clever advances, but I am not putting my money in the stock market to back that bet.
I don't mean to tread on your tulips...
discerningconservative (Diary) Tuesday, July 7th at 11:21PM EST (link)but, I don’t think you meant 2003 in your title. I do agree with you on the economy not turning around by 2012 (assuming that is what you meant). Especially if Cap & Tax passes the senate and Taxpayer Funded Health Insurance passes. We could be in for some very rough times.
you killed my tulips, arrgh, discerningcon :) ...
DONTREADONME (Diary) Tuesday, July 7th at 11:27PM EST (link)You were right my brain was going to ways with that headline, one I was thinking about the economic roar we heard back in 2003 to 2006 and I was trying to say that I do not expect anything to happen good with the economy before 2012 at the earliest. Yeah, signs of the bleeding controlled but not an economic engine that made 2002-2006 one hell of kick ass economic expansion ride.
yeah...
discerningconservative (Diary) Tuesday, July 7th at 11:33PM EST (link)Back in those days I checked my 401k everyday and smiled. Now, I am afraid to log on and look how bad it has gotten. Hopefully we can stop this tax and spend philosophy that good ol’ Barry is set on, and I can recoup my losses before I retire. I am only 34, so I still have 30-35 years for it to happen. I’ll keep calling my representatives everyday until it ceases.
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DONTREADONME (Diary) Tuesday, July 7th at 11:43PM EST (link)yup same here,
I am 33 and I loved every year after 2001, I am still up eventhough the market is down (though not any where near where I was in 06), but I am sure afraid to look at my investments since the Government started destroying companies by taking them out through bankruptcy and giving the secured investors and shareholders pennies on the dollar. Of course with Cap and Tax I fear for my power company stocks, if I dump them now I am screwed.
You guys are young so you will have
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, July 8th at 12:04AM EST (link)more time to make it up unless we all end up in the gulag. My wife and I were almost set. NOT ANYMORE. I have had to hustle up business again and at Michael Jackson’s age that gets harder to do.
At least I still have a right thinking brain.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
and that side of the brain is your trump...
DONTREADONME (Diary) Wednesday, July 8th at 12:54AM EST (link)card to a brighter future and the avoiding of economic malaise.
Rasmussen has him down to -3%
scarlos (Diary) Wednesday, July 8th at 3:25AM EST (link)with 36% Strongly disapproving, and 33% Strongly Approving.
After half a year, he has arguably the worst showing for any new president. For comparison, the percentage of people who strongly disapproved of the Bush Presidency in his last month in office was 43%.
also significant, is that his regular approval rating dropped to 52%, which is below his November vote total–which generally indicates he’s shedding votes.
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Today's (Wed.) poll has TOTUS down to a -5%
eburke (Diary) Wednesday, July 8th at 3:37PM EST (link)his lowest ever, with 32% Approve and 37% disapprove. The total approve/disapprove numbers have also reached their low of 4% – 52% Approve
vs 48% disapprove.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
If the MSM would conduct even the faintest resemblance of an unskewed poll The One’s approval ratings wouldn’t still be in the +20 range. But when you not only don’t poll LVs, or even RVs, but content yourself with “Adults” (when in polling history has *that* ever been done on a consistent basis) and the internals on most of these faux polls have a D registration advantage of 13% or more with R registration *in the low 20s*!!! Hmmm, can’t imagine why everyone but Ras is still showing him as ‘popular’.
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Hey Ace. You're a genius. A freaking genius.
eburke (Diary) Wednesday, July 8th at 3:39PM EST (link)If you’ll notice, I actually managed to get a link to the Ras poll embedded in my post.
If you can teach a total technological doofus like me to do that…? You’re pure genius, buddy!!
So, what’s your favorite adult beverage? I’ll get one in the mail to you pronto!
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