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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/warrior/2009/10/19/liberal-fascism-a-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must have hit the wrong button...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have hit the wrong button&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/warrior/2009/10/19/liberal-fascism-a-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: &quot;...and whose brain DID you bring me?&quot;
A: &quot;Abby something...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: &#8220;&#8230;and whose brain DID you bring me?&#8221;<br />
A: &#8220;Abby something&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but I&#039;m afraid, quite true.  Much of our country&#039;s population has been reduced to &quot;Sheeple&quot; by an endless array of excuses, hand-outs and entitlements.  Very few seem able to grasp the simplest concepts, e.g. the gubmint has no business setting salaries, owning car companies, &quot;providing&quot; health insurance, etc, etc.

And thanks for your encomia regarding the review...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but I&#8217;m afraid, quite true.  Much of our country&#8217;s population has been reduced to &#8220;Sheeple&#8221; by an endless array of excuses, hand-outs and entitlements.  Very few seem able to grasp the simplest concepts, e.g. the gubmint has no business setting salaries, owning car companies, &#8220;providing&#8221; health insurance, etc, etc.</p>
<p>And thanks for your encomia regarding the review&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: abbynormal</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started this book a couple of months ago, then set it aside to read &quot;Atlas Shrugged&quot;. Now, I look forward to taking it up again, and gaining new insight with the benefit of this shared discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started this book a couple of months ago, then set it aside to read &#8220;Atlas Shrugged&#8221;. Now, I look forward to taking it up again, and gaining new insight with the benefit of this shared discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be working from memory for anything I post as the copy that was loaned to me by a friend has subsequently been loaned to another friend. I was reading it in the middle of the campaign and noting the same thing: even though the book couldn&#039;t have been written in anticipation of The Big 0, it described his positions and desired courses of action perfectly.

I&#039;m pretty sure that like everybody else, Goldberg was expecting Hillary to be the nominee. But as I said last year, it had come down to a choice between a Socialist, a Marxist, and a Democrat, so I would reluctantly vote for the Democrat and take some (very little) solace in the fact that there was an &#039;R&#039; after his name on the ballot. Since the differentiating a Socialist from a Marxist from a Fascist proper (as opposed to the merely slanderous description routinely applied to conservatives) is largely a philosophical exercise on par with deciding how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, in laying out the case against the &quot;uniquely American brand&quot; of fascism that has been the Progressive movement since at least the 1920s, the descriptions, methodologies, and goals Goldberg describes will always describe a Democrat administration.

It was also in the middle of reading this book that I came to the realization that the real solution to our current problem is to drop to our knees and pray. We aren&#039;t fighting against The Big 0, or his administration. We aren&#039;t fighting against something that happened over the last decade. What is extending its cold hand toward us is a power and a movement that have been gathering strength and momentum for more than 80 years. Yes, we must man the ramparts to defend The Republic, but only the power of God can stop the forces which have inexorably been moving against us all that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be working from memory for anything I post as the copy that was loaned to me by a friend has subsequently been loaned to another friend. I was reading it in the middle of the campaign and noting the same thing: even though the book couldn&#8217;t have been written in anticipation of The Big 0, it described his positions and desired courses of action perfectly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that like everybody else, Goldberg was expecting Hillary to be the nominee. But as I said last year, it had come down to a choice between a Socialist, a Marxist, and a Democrat, so I would reluctantly vote for the Democrat and take some (very little) solace in the fact that there was an &#8216;R&#8217; after his name on the ballot. Since the differentiating a Socialist from a Marxist from a Fascist proper (as opposed to the merely slanderous description routinely applied to conservatives) is largely a philosophical exercise on par with deciding how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, in laying out the case against the &#8220;uniquely American brand&#8221; of fascism that has been the Progressive movement since at least the 1920s, the descriptions, methodologies, and goals Goldberg describes will always describe a Democrat administration.</p>
<p>It was also in the middle of reading this book that I came to the realization that the real solution to our current problem is to drop to our knees and pray. We aren&#8217;t fighting against The Big 0, or his administration. We aren&#8217;t fighting against something that happened over the last decade. What is extending its cold hand toward us is a power and a movement that have been gathering strength and momentum for more than 80 years. Yes, we must man the ramparts to defend The Republic, but only the power of God can stop the forces which have inexorably been moving against us all that time.</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That these politicians learn that the greater good is leave us the hell alone.</description>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I couldn&#039;t resist a little Fred Sanford.

Thank you for your kind remarks.  I have already read the book, but I am re-reading it to be prepared for the discussion.

Unfortunately, it never came.  I tried to alert the RS moderator, but he was too busy.  Conservatives leaders do have important business to which we must attend, like getting conservatives in and liberals out.

Anyway, I guess I&#039;m stuck with it for now.  I will continue to post each Monday on the next chapter or chapters, depending on their length and/or relative importance.

In the meantime, I look forward to your comments and thanks again...

P.S. I love C.S. Lewis.  It would be fun to review &quot;The Screwtape Letters&quot; and enlightening, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I couldn&#8217;t resist a little Fred Sanford.</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind remarks.  I have already read the book, but I am re-reading it to be prepared for the discussion.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it never came.  I tried to alert the RS moderator, but he was too busy.  Conservatives leaders do have important business to which we must attend, like getting conservatives in and liberals out.</p>
<p>Anyway, I guess I&#8217;m stuck with it for now.  I will continue to post each Monday on the next chapter or chapters, depending on their length and/or relative importance.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I look forward to your comments and thanks again&#8230;</p>
<p>P.S. I love C.S. Lewis.  It would be fun to review &#8220;The Screwtape Letters&#8221; and enlightening, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Warrior,

Thanks for getting this discussion rolling.  I&#039;m about 2/3 of the way through the book and would love to discuss it.  Unfortunately, I&#039;m buried in work at the moment, so can&#039;t say much for now.  However, keep going with blogging the next several chapters and I&#039;ll try to jump in more later.

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Warrior,</p>
<p>Thanks for getting this discussion rolling.  I&#8217;m about 2/3 of the way through the book and would love to discuss it.  Unfortunately, I&#8217;m buried in work at the moment, so can&#8217;t say much for now.  However, keep going with blogging the next several chapters and I&#8217;ll try to jump in more later.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, my weary mind accidentally used your title in my response above to Leopard.  It&#039;s hard holding down a full time job and fighting off the fascists at the same time...

And thanks again for the accolades.  If I have a few fresh synapses available, I can usually cull out the more relevant points...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, my weary mind accidentally used your title in my response above to Leopard.  It&#8217;s hard holding down a full time job and fighting off the fascists at the same time&#8230;</p>
<p>And thanks again for the accolades.  If I have a few fresh synapses available, I can usually cull out the more relevant points&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it&#039;s all done in the name of John Stuart Mills&#039; &quot;Greater good.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s all done in the name of John Stuart Mills&#8217; &#8220;Greater good.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: newsentinel</title>
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		<dc:creator>newsentinel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goldberg was prophetic. As I read his introduction I felt as though I was reading today&#039;s newspapers. I confess that I had a hard time writing my thoughts on Liberal Facism. But you made it look easy. Well done, Warrior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goldberg was prophetic. As I read his introduction I felt as though I was reading today&#8217;s newspapers. I confess that I had a hard time writing my thoughts on Liberal Facism. But you made it look easy. Well done, Warrior.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facism, communism, nazism, socialism, is all different sides of the same coin.  All of those ism&#039;s call for a strong central government to control and limit individual freedoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facism, communism, nazism, socialism, is all different sides of the same coin.  All of those ism&#8217;s call for a strong central government to control and limit individual freedoms.</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and excellent points.  

Octagenerian Castro wearing military style fatigues?  Keeping the myth alive.

Cap and Trade legislation?  Just mobilizing the myth as &quot;a tool to create a planned economy&quot; (or to milk the current one dry to pay for ever-increasing gubmint.)

Preach on my brother!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and excellent points.  </p>
<p>Octagenerian Castro wearing military style fatigues?  Keeping the myth alive.</p>
<p>Cap and Trade legislation?  Just mobilizing the myth as &#8220;a tool to create a planned economy&#8221; (or to milk the current one dry to pay for ever-increasing gubmint.)</p>
<p>Preach on my brother!</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they are stupid.</description>
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		<title>By: Joe_Cor</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and think you have drawn excellent parallels between Goldberg&#039;s book and the current actions by the left.

I was struck by how the Italian Fascists believed in the power of myth, and that even the truth of Marxism was secondary to its being a useful myth.  That resonates with the left in this country on almost every issue, starting from Vietnam, to Anita Hill, to Florida 2000, to Iraq, to Global Warming, to the libeling of Rush.  The myth is all-powerful to the left, and the myth must be clung to, even when the facts clearly fly in the myth&#039;s face.   When the myth is demonstrably false, it still represents some underlying truth, so the facts are irrelevant(Like made-up quotes attributed to Rush, or Dan Rather&#039;s Memogate, or Anita Hill&#039;s charges).  Or, it can be utilized to mobilize the masses toward a greater good (like global warming mobilizing being a tool to create a planned economy) so it still has an underlying &quot;truth.&quot;

Perhaps this is one reason liberals are so hard to argue with.  The myth is what is real to them, and the facts, to the extent that they dispel the myth, are irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and think you have drawn excellent parallels between Goldberg&#8217;s book and the current actions by the left.</p>
<p>I was struck by how the Italian Fascists believed in the power of myth, and that even the truth of Marxism was secondary to its being a useful myth.  That resonates with the left in this country on almost every issue, starting from Vietnam, to Anita Hill, to Florida 2000, to Iraq, to Global Warming, to the libeling of Rush.  The myth is all-powerful to the left, and the myth must be clung to, even when the facts clearly fly in the myth&#8217;s face.   When the myth is demonstrably false, it still represents some underlying truth, so the facts are irrelevant(Like made-up quotes attributed to Rush, or Dan Rather&#8217;s Memogate, or Anita Hill&#8217;s charges).  Or, it can be utilized to mobilize the masses toward a greater good (like global warming mobilizing being a tool to create a planned economy) so it still has an underlying &#8220;truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps this is one reason liberals are so hard to argue with.  The myth is what is real to them, and the facts, to the extent that they dispel the myth, are irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: reelman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LYING LEFTY DUNN IT

Imagine any national political figure saying that Mao was “one of their two favorite philosophers and one of the two they turned to most”…my God, what evidence democrat Anita Dunn is a kook secular socialist. Why not say Hitler, same thing without the WW2? Mao was THE biggest mass murderer EVER. Tens of millions died by his orders. Her high school audience did not know that? Maybe not these days.

Of course, being a sneaky slimy lying secular socialist…she (are you ready for this?)…says she got it from something she read that a Republican said!!! Like Lee Atwater was her philosophic guide! What a diaper full. You, being a dufus, are expected to realize this was said in
humor and from someone else.

Always remember the arrogant modern national democrat has no moral or ethical boundaries. Now it all makes sense.
Will CNN fact check her? You find that quote from Atwater yet? What does that tell you? Its that “no boundaries” thing again. Its what they do.

http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LYING LEFTY DUNN IT</p>
<p>Imagine any national political figure saying that Mao was “one of their two favorite philosophers and one of the two they turned to most”…my God, what evidence democrat Anita Dunn is a kook secular socialist. Why not say Hitler, same thing without the WW2? Mao was THE biggest mass murderer EVER. Tens of millions died by his orders. Her high school audience did not know that? Maybe not these days.</p>
<p>Of course, being a sneaky slimy lying secular socialist…she (are you ready for this?)…says she got it from something she read that a Republican said!!! Like Lee Atwater was her philosophic guide! What a diaper full. You, being a dufus, are expected to realize this was said in<br />
humor and from someone else.</p>
<p>Always remember the arrogant modern national democrat has no moral or ethical boundaries. Now it all makes sense.<br />
Will CNN fact check her? You find that quote from Atwater yet? What does that tell you? Its that “no boundaries” thing again. Its what they do.</p>
<p>http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish</p>
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