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		<title>By: GreyCloak</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreyCloak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes ... I know a doctor that killed himself over a lawsuit ... one that resulted from a pro-bono operation, devastated his family for years, and was finally (after his death) thrown out by a &quot;jury&quot; of peers and bureaucrats. But that was over thirty years ago.

I am sure that lawyers bear some fault, but they are the big bugaboo of conservatives and Congress in general. Insurance companies, doctors, and hospitals just LOVE to see lawyers blamed.

But when has Congress conducted a SINGLE audit of a doctor&#039;s bills, or an insurance company&#039;s profits, or a &quot;not-for-profit&quot; or &quot;for-profit&quot; hospital&#039;s actual expenses?

LBJ created MediCare and MedicAide ... from the time Government took over paying for medicine, costs have skyrocketed, and those plans are a bigger threat to the national budget than even Social Security. 

WAKE UP! In the last twenty years, the &lt;a&gt;&quot;health&quot; industries have contributed almost a Billion Dollars&lt;/a&gt; to our politicians. &quot;Insurance&quot; has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=F09&quot;&gt;contributed about a third&lt;/a&gt; of that.

Combined, Health and Insurance exceed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=K&quot;&gt;contributions by Lawyers&lt;/a&gt;.

Congress doesn&#039;t give a hoot about The People ... &quot;health,&quot;
insurance, and lawyers buy all the legislation they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8230; I know a doctor that killed himself over a lawsuit &#8230; one that resulted from a pro-bono operation, devastated his family for years, and was finally (after his death) thrown out by a &#8220;jury&#8221; of peers and bureaucrats. But that was over thirty years ago.</p>
<p>I am sure that lawyers bear some fault, but they are the big bugaboo of conservatives and Congress in general. Insurance companies, doctors, and hospitals just LOVE to see lawyers blamed.</p>
<p>But when has Congress conducted a SINGLE audit of a doctor&#8217;s bills, or an insurance company&#8217;s profits, or a &#8220;not-for-profit&#8221; or &#8220;for-profit&#8221; hospital&#8217;s actual expenses?</p>
<p>LBJ created MediCare and MedicAide &#8230; from the time Government took over paying for medicine, costs have skyrocketed, and those plans are a bigger threat to the national budget than even Social Security. </p>
<p>WAKE UP! In the last twenty years, the <a>&#8220;health&#8221; industries have contributed almost a Billion Dollars</a> to our politicians. &#8220;Insurance&#8221; has <a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=F09">contributed about a third</a> of that.</p>
<p>Combined, Health and Insurance exceed <a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=K">contributions by Lawyers</a>.</p>
<p>Congress doesn&#8217;t give a hoot about The People &#8230; &#8220;health,&#8221;<br />
insurance, and lawyers buy all the legislation they want.</p>
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		<title>By: GreyCloak</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreyCloak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what malpractice insurance rates are in Texas, much as I live there, but I am sure they contribute to higher doctor costs.

On the other hand, another litigator friend says that &quot;it&#039;s just not profitable [from a lawyer&#039;s viewpoint] to sue doctors anymore.&quot; So malpractice insurance rates should have decreased.

On the doctors&#039; side of things, every doctor I have asked the question of says that his/her rates are set by &quot;consultants&quot; ... when one raised his rates 30% in a year, I asked him if he&#039;d raised office salaries by that much: the answer was &quot;no.&quot;

On the insurance side of things ... MY medical insurance ... I have reviewed annual reports, and my insurance company now pays out only 60% of premiums collected in medical claims ... not three years ago, the number was near 70%.

So ... the doctors are increasing their profits; the insurance companies are increasing their profits; and the citizen pays.

OH ... and a hospital charged me $50,000 for two hours in a surgery room to fix a broken leg ... fortunately, the insurance company discovered the fraud and cancelled the charge.

As to OB-Gyns ... the one that birthed my children left the business because of lawsuits (although none ever prevailed); at least two from Texas are sitting in Congress: CREATING new citizens is apparently less profitable than saddling them with impossible amounts of debt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what malpractice insurance rates are in Texas, much as I live there, but I am sure they contribute to higher doctor costs.</p>
<p>On the other hand, another litigator friend says that &#8220;it&#8217;s just not profitable [from a lawyer's viewpoint] to sue doctors anymore.&#8221; So malpractice insurance rates should have decreased.</p>
<p>On the doctors&#8217; side of things, every doctor I have asked the question of says that his/her rates are set by &#8220;consultants&#8221; &#8230; when one raised his rates 30% in a year, I asked him if he&#8217;d raised office salaries by that much: the answer was &#8220;no.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the insurance side of things &#8230; MY medical insurance &#8230; I have reviewed annual reports, and my insurance company now pays out only 60% of premiums collected in medical claims &#8230; not three years ago, the number was near 70%.</p>
<p>So &#8230; the doctors are increasing their profits; the insurance companies are increasing their profits; and the citizen pays.</p>
<p>OH &#8230; and a hospital charged me $50,000 for two hours in a surgery room to fix a broken leg &#8230; fortunately, the insurance company discovered the fraud and cancelled the charge.</p>
<p>As to OB-Gyns &#8230; the one that birthed my children left the business because of lawsuits (although none ever prevailed); at least two from Texas are sitting in Congress: CREATING new citizens is apparently less profitable than saddling them with impossible amounts of debt.</p>
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		<title>By: dskinner11</title>
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		<dc:creator>dskinner11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a doctor just beginning my career so I will obviously benefit from any type of tort reform. Even though it is in my own self-interest to see this addressed nationally, it is a state issue. You can&#039;t shop medical malpractice claims in multiple states and jurisdictions the way you can with other lawsuits.

I hate to see conservatives run to Washington in order to have the federal government intervene all because conservatives were too inept to accomplish the reforms on the state level where they need to be taken care of.

I know there are plenty of states where tort-reform could never happen in the near-term. Let the market work its magic and before long doctors will move to other states and the shortages of doctors will force reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a doctor just beginning my career so I will obviously benefit from any type of tort reform. Even though it is in my own self-interest to see this addressed nationally, it is a state issue. You can&#8217;t shop medical malpractice claims in multiple states and jurisdictions the way you can with other lawsuits.</p>
<p>I hate to see conservatives run to Washington in order to have the federal government intervene all because conservatives were too inept to accomplish the reforms on the state level where they need to be taken care of.</p>
<p>I know there are plenty of states where tort-reform could never happen in the near-term. Let the market work its magic and before long doctors will move to other states and the shortages of doctors will force reform.</p>
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		<title>By: dskinner11</title>
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		<dc:creator>dskinner11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Arizona the only medical liability insurance company is a non-profit physician owned company and rates are still sky-high.

Bottom line is this is a state issue that is affected by so much more than just non-economic damages. Every state will need specific and different reforms based on current law. We need complete tort-reform, not limited just to caps on non-economic damages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Arizona the only medical liability insurance company is a non-profit physician owned company and rates are still sky-high.</p>
<p>Bottom line is this is a state issue that is affected by so much more than just non-economic damages. Every state will need specific and different reforms based on current law. We need complete tort-reform, not limited just to caps on non-economic damages.</p>
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		<title>By: dskinner11</title>
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		<dc:creator>dskinner11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a doctor (I just graduated and am doing my internship) I can tell you that defensive medicine is an important cause of rising medical costs and we should attempt to lower the need to practice in order to avoid lawsuits, but it won&#039;t lower costs by as much as we need. That will take market reforms that force patients to face the costs of diagnosis and treatment.

Most of the extra and unnecessary medical care is ordered because doctors feel a duty to advocate for their patients and give them the highest level of care available (i.e. covered by their insurance). A $5/month drug might be 95% as effective as a $200/month drug or maybe they are equally effective but the $5 drug is more likely to give you a mild side effect. Either way the vast majority of doctors will prescribe the better drug as long as the insurance will pay for it. The same goes for testing and other treatments.

Without motivation from patients, doctors aren&#039;t going to be the ones to say can we innovate and be even more effective for less money. Government would do the opposite and be less effective for more money. The only way to fix the system is to make patients face more of the costs so through market competition they demand better services for less money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a doctor (I just graduated and am doing my internship) I can tell you that defensive medicine is an important cause of rising medical costs and we should attempt to lower the need to practice in order to avoid lawsuits, but it won&#8217;t lower costs by as much as we need. That will take market reforms that force patients to face the costs of diagnosis and treatment.</p>
<p>Most of the extra and unnecessary medical care is ordered because doctors feel a duty to advocate for their patients and give them the highest level of care available (i.e. covered by their insurance). A $5/month drug might be 95% as effective as a $200/month drug or maybe they are equally effective but the $5 drug is more likely to give you a mild side effect. Either way the vast majority of doctors will prescribe the better drug as long as the insurance will pay for it. The same goes for testing and other treatments.</p>
<p>Without motivation from patients, doctors aren&#8217;t going to be the ones to say can we innovate and be even more effective for less money. Government would do the opposite and be less effective for more money. The only way to fix the system is to make patients face more of the costs so through market competition they demand better services for less money.</p>
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		<title>By: marshmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>marshmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He told them he wanted medical malpractice &quot;reform&quot;, but failed to go into detail about what it may entail.  He did, however, tell physicians that he didn&#039;t think it was &quot;fair&quot; to cap medical malpractice awards.  They do have a cap in Florida and most physicians there go &quot;naked&quot; which means that typically it&#039;s cheaper for a doctor to pay damages to a patient in court than it is to afford medical malpractice insurance.  
Some Dems in the House have suggested mild reform in malpractice lawsuits, but most aren&#039;t supporting it because they don&#039;t believe it would do any good in deterring lawsuits.  Nice, huh?
I&#039;m sure what they mean is.......this isn&#039;t going to help high paid lawyers who contribute to my campaign every year.
Can anyone remember any daytime tv they&#039;ve watched where they haven&#039;t seen some ad by a law firm telling you if you have taken a particular drug and experienced certain side effects, you &quot;may be entitled to damages&quot;.  There are hundreds of those stupid ads.  It&#039;s obviously working well for them here in the U.S.  
I agree this should be a major part of their &quot;reform&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He told them he wanted medical malpractice &#8220;reform&#8221;, but failed to go into detail about what it may entail.  He did, however, tell physicians that he didn&#8217;t think it was &#8220;fair&#8221; to cap medical malpractice awards.  They do have a cap in Florida and most physicians there go &#8220;naked&#8221; which means that typically it&#8217;s cheaper for a doctor to pay damages to a patient in court than it is to afford medical malpractice insurance.<br />
Some Dems in the House have suggested mild reform in malpractice lawsuits, but most aren&#8217;t supporting it because they don&#8217;t believe it would do any good in deterring lawsuits.  Nice, huh?<br />
I&#8217;m sure what they mean is&#8230;&#8230;.this isn&#8217;t going to help high paid lawyers who contribute to my campaign every year.<br />
Can anyone remember any daytime tv they&#8217;ve watched where they haven&#8217;t seen some ad by a law firm telling you if you have taken a particular drug and experienced certain side effects, you &#8220;may be entitled to damages&#8221;.  There are hundreds of those stupid ads.  It&#8217;s obviously working well for them here in the U.S.<br />
I agree this should be a major part of their &#8220;reform&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: avgamerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>avgamerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some how lawyers have managed to monopolize the flow of information to prevent themselves from being accountable. Lawyers are allowed to pursue unreasonable allegations for money. It has poisoned the system which looks for the scapegoat, INSURANCE COMPANIES. It&#039;s the huge elephant in the room that&#039;s ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some how lawyers have managed to monopolize the flow of information to prevent themselves from being accountable. Lawyers are allowed to pursue unreasonable allegations for money. It has poisoned the system which looks for the scapegoat, INSURANCE COMPANIES. It&#8217;s the huge elephant in the room that&#8217;s ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make some great points that mitigate against the impact of tort reform on ins rates, but not with respect to the logic behind the concept.

Insurance is about risk and certainly tort reform lessens risk.

To fully analyze the impact of state tort reform on ins rates, one would have to factor out other factors and compare changes in states visa vis other states. Moreover, one must also consider the inter- and intra- state effects on particular companies that spread the risk nationwide. 

I think that for tort reform to have its full effect we would need to de-regulate the ins industry and have federal tort reform.

But clearly, tort reform is not a panacea for ins rates and medical costs overall.

Nice comment fellow member of the bar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some great points that mitigate against the impact of tort reform on ins rates, but not with respect to the logic behind the concept.</p>
<p>Insurance is about risk and certainly tort reform lessens risk.</p>
<p>To fully analyze the impact of state tort reform on ins rates, one would have to factor out other factors and compare changes in states visa vis other states. Moreover, one must also consider the inter- and intra- state effects on particular companies that spread the risk nationwide. </p>
<p>I think that for tort reform to have its full effect we would need to de-regulate the ins industry and have federal tort reform.</p>
<p>But clearly, tort reform is not a panacea for ins rates and medical costs overall.</p>
<p>Nice comment fellow member of the bar</p>
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		<title>By: bluechiplaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluechiplaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take this for what it&#039;s worth. I&#039;m an insurance defense lawyer, have several doctor friends, and have never represented a plaintiff in a PI case of any sort.

Texas went through tort reform several years ago now, capping certain damages in med mal cases. It was passed under the auspices of lowering med mal insurance rates. My understanding is that med mal filings have dropped significantly. However, my doctor friends have not seen a drop in their insurance rates. This is unsurprising since (1) insurance companies are for-profit corporations, and (2) the doctors have already shown a willingness to pay the old rates of insurance, so why lower the rates? I&#039;m not against insurance companies making money, by the way. Charge what the market will bear.

So now we are in a situation where verdicts are lower, fewer suits are filed, but the whole reason behind passing the legislation has not occurred.

Now, I&#039;d also like to raise the point that we, as conservatives, are against government bureaucrats from telling us how much we should be charged for medical care or what medical care we can or cannot receive. What, then, is the argument for having politicians set caps on med mal verdicts? Which politicians are to do this? Should it be delegated to a &quot;blue ribbon committee&quot;? Should it simply be a reasonableness standard, and left up to courts to reduce outrageous verdicts? (And believe me, outrageous verdicts do occur.)

The loser pay idea is good in theory, but bad in practice. How could a poor working stiff who believes he was wrongfully injured by a doctor ever afford to pay the doctor if he couldn&#039;t prove that the doctor caused his injuries? The doctor, of course, has insurance, but the Plaintiff generally has no substantial assets.

One additional issue in Texas, which I&#039;m not sure how I feel about, is this: In order to run a med mal suit in Texas, you have to get a doctor, within a certain number of days of filing suit, to prepare a report detailing how the defendant committed malpractice. I think this is generally a good thing. But in small towns like mine it would be virtually impossible to find a doctor who will testify against another doctor. Plus, it must be quite expensive to find such an expert. And when damages are capped, it means that less-damaging malpractice by doctors are never pursued because Plaintiffs&#039; lawyers cannot risk spending 100K on expenses to run a lawsuit with small, or capped damages. While under the old system too many people were sued, under the current system it is probably the case that more doctors can commit malpractice unpunished than would otherwise be the case. (No stats on that, it&#039;s pure deductive reasoning... or impure deductive reasoning if you disagree.)

Lastly, the runaway verdict issue is often a canard. If a doctor has a one million dollar policy, then the carrier will only be liable for that amount. So insurance companies always have a capped amount they can lose, which is the only way insurance companies can exist. 

I&#039;ve written way too much, and haven&#039;t posted here in forever. Be kind in your disapproval of this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take this for what it&#8217;s worth. I&#8217;m an insurance defense lawyer, have several doctor friends, and have never represented a plaintiff in a PI case of any sort.</p>
<p>Texas went through tort reform several years ago now, capping certain damages in med mal cases. It was passed under the auspices of lowering med mal insurance rates. My understanding is that med mal filings have dropped significantly. However, my doctor friends have not seen a drop in their insurance rates. This is unsurprising since (1) insurance companies are for-profit corporations, and (2) the doctors have already shown a willingness to pay the old rates of insurance, so why lower the rates? I&#8217;m not against insurance companies making money, by the way. Charge what the market will bear.</p>
<p>So now we are in a situation where verdicts are lower, fewer suits are filed, but the whole reason behind passing the legislation has not occurred.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;d also like to raise the point that we, as conservatives, are against government bureaucrats from telling us how much we should be charged for medical care or what medical care we can or cannot receive. What, then, is the argument for having politicians set caps on med mal verdicts? Which politicians are to do this? Should it be delegated to a &#8220;blue ribbon committee&#8221;? Should it simply be a reasonableness standard, and left up to courts to reduce outrageous verdicts? (And believe me, outrageous verdicts do occur.)</p>
<p>The loser pay idea is good in theory, but bad in practice. How could a poor working stiff who believes he was wrongfully injured by a doctor ever afford to pay the doctor if he couldn&#8217;t prove that the doctor caused his injuries? The doctor, of course, has insurance, but the Plaintiff generally has no substantial assets.</p>
<p>One additional issue in Texas, which I&#8217;m not sure how I feel about, is this: In order to run a med mal suit in Texas, you have to get a doctor, within a certain number of days of filing suit, to prepare a report detailing how the defendant committed malpractice. I think this is generally a good thing. But in small towns like mine it would be virtually impossible to find a doctor who will testify against another doctor. Plus, it must be quite expensive to find such an expert. And when damages are capped, it means that less-damaging malpractice by doctors are never pursued because Plaintiffs&#8217; lawyers cannot risk spending 100K on expenses to run a lawsuit with small, or capped damages. While under the old system too many people were sued, under the current system it is probably the case that more doctors can commit malpractice unpunished than would otherwise be the case. (No stats on that, it&#8217;s pure deductive reasoning&#8230; or impure deductive reasoning if you disagree.)</p>
<p>Lastly, the runaway verdict issue is often a canard. If a doctor has a one million dollar policy, then the carrier will only be liable for that amount. So insurance companies always have a capped amount they can lose, which is the only way insurance companies can exist. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written way too much, and haven&#8217;t posted here in forever. Be kind in your disapproval of this post.</p>
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		<title>By: skorrent1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would be a good idea.  

I&#039;ve not seen anyone propose another idea that would be effective.  &quot;Punitive damages&quot; are a court-imposed punishment for misbehavior.  By what logic are the plaintiffs (and their lawyers) entitled to what amounts to a fine imposed by government.  Why not have punitive damages go to the government and be regulated to some multiple of monetary compensation. Trial lawyers would be fishing for a much smaller catch and settlements would be more attractive.

Tort law should make victims whole, not necessarily make them rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be a good idea.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not seen anyone propose another idea that would be effective.  &#8220;Punitive damages&#8221; are a court-imposed punishment for misbehavior.  By what logic are the plaintiffs (and their lawyers) entitled to what amounts to a fine imposed by government.  Why not have punitive damages go to the government and be regulated to some multiple of monetary compensation. Trial lawyers would be fishing for a much smaller catch and settlements would be more attractive.</p>
<p>Tort law should make victims whole, not necessarily make them rich.</p>
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		<title>By: skorrent1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Canada&#039;s malpractice cost is 10% of ours.</description>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your case, I think I remember banning you already.

Moe Lane

PS: How does it feel, knowing that Dick Cheney can advocate gay marriage and not be condemned for it by his own side, while your own guy doesn&#039;t have the guts?  Rhetorical question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your case, I think I remember banning you already.</p>
<p>Moe Lane</p>
<p>PS: How does it feel, knowing that Dick Cheney can advocate gay marriage and not be condemned for it by his own side, while your own guy doesn&#8217;t have the guts?  Rhetorical question.</p>
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		<title>By: beenyweenies</title>
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		<dc:creator>beenyweenies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes that little thing called profit gets you medicine, treatments, etc.&quot;

Uh, no, doctors and hospitals provide treatment, not insurance companies. In fact, insurance industry profits represent services NOT rendered, which is the very problem with a for-profit health care system.

But hey, if you WANT half of your insurance premiums going to put some guy&#039;s kids through the best schools in the country, that&#039;s your right. Why not just mail him a donation since you like profits so much?

And for the record, looking up people&#039;s profiles because they post differing views is a bit silly, why not just address the substance of my post instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes that little thing called profit gets you medicine, treatments, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no, doctors and hospitals provide treatment, not insurance companies. In fact, insurance industry profits represent services NOT rendered, which is the very problem with a for-profit health care system.</p>
<p>But hey, if you WANT half of your insurance premiums going to put some guy&#8217;s kids through the best schools in the country, that&#8217;s your right. Why not just mail him a donation since you like profits so much?</p>
<p>And for the record, looking up people&#8217;s profiles because they post differing views is a bit silly, why not just address the substance of my post instead.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hinz</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if I hadn&#039;t changed my screen name a while back... 8-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if I hadn&#8217;t changed my screen name a while back&#8230; <img src='http://www.redstate.com/warner_todd_huston/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Hinz</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n/t</description>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
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		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually have an easy time finding old comments from previous versions of redstate.  I found comments from you dated back June 27th of 08 on a blog of Nightwisters.  I do tend to go a little further than just assuming, so geez, cut a guy some slack :) , plus I did not call troll, even though I can&#039;t find anything from him in the last two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually have an easy time finding old comments from previous versions of redstate.  I found comments from you dated back June 27th of 08 on a blog of Nightwisters.  I do tend to go a little further than just assuming, so geez, cut a guy some slack <img src='http://www.redstate.com/warner_todd_huston/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  , plus I did not call troll, even though I can&#8217;t find anything from him in the last two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Finrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Competition in the free market naturally eliminates any excessive &#039;profits&#039; that you&#039;re whinging about.  So where&#039;s your proposal to increase competition amongst medical insurers?  Let me guess: by singling out &#039;private insurers&#039;, you want more government regulation.  BZZT, wrong answer, government regulation reduces competition, which increases profits amongst those that can survive it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Competition in the free market naturally eliminates any excessive &#8216;profits&#8217; that you&#8217;re whinging about.  So where&#8217;s your proposal to increase competition amongst medical insurers?  Let me guess: by singling out &#8216;private insurers&#8217;, you want more government regulation.  BZZT, wrong answer, government regulation reduces competition, which increases profits amongst those that can survive it.</p>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
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		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone had told me that a long time ago, that is usually why I read into peoples words, and when I see profits as the excuse for the problem I ask myself why are profits the problem here; therefore, Doctors do what? they make a profit, why do pharmaceutical companies stay in the business of R&amp;D profit, same for medical technology profit.  It is the life blood of innovation, and why do insurance companies stay in business profit, why do they raise there rates? to keep their profits the same.  Yes, I am not a big fan of people jumping on that profits band wagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone had told me that a long time ago, that is usually why I read into peoples words, and when I see profits as the excuse for the problem I ask myself why are profits the problem here; therefore, Doctors do what? they make a profit, why do pharmaceutical companies stay in the business of R&amp;D profit, same for medical technology profit.  It is the life blood of innovation, and why do insurance companies stay in business profit, why do they raise there rates? to keep their profits the same.  Yes, I am not a big fan of people jumping on that profits band wagon.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hinz</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.redstate.com/warner_todd_huston/?p=2023#comment-8455</guid>
		<description>that because Redstate went through 2.0, 3.0, 2.0 again, 4.0 and then rebirth, that older comments mysteriously disappeared.  People who have not commented in a few month appear to have never commented at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that because Redstate went through 2.0, 3.0, 2.0 again, 4.0 and then rebirth, that older comments mysteriously disappeared.  People who have not commented in a few month appear to have never commented at all.</p>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
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		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, &quot;profits&quot;? buzz word of the class warriors and socialists aka marxists.  Yes that little thing called profit gets you medicine, treatments, etc.  Now go somewhere else, no one is going to listen to you when you portray profits as the problem.  Wow, pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, &#8220;profits&#8221;? buzz word of the class warriors and socialists aka marxists.  Yes that little thing called profit gets you medicine, treatments, etc.  Now go somewhere else, no one is going to listen to you when you portray profits as the problem.  Wow, pathetic.</p>
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