Sigh!

If they don’t create the Public plan immediately, they CLAIM they don’t want to and wont – but we all know that is just diversion distraction LYING as usual…. Even IF McCain had got elected and the Republicans would have AT LEAST SOME SAY we would have avoided the Public plan, the Tax would have had the expressed intent of helping to fund SCHIP and some other program to cover Adults w/o HC, but people would have still had the responsibility for themselves. The HC Tax would have been on the PREMIUM PLANS (as McCain laid out) where-as ObamaBinBiden HC Tax will be on ALL HC PLANS.

Anyway… enough defending McCain’s also pathetic campaign HC plan….. because now we have someone going at McCain in a Primary, finally that we can support Nationally for his AZ Senate seat. (see also: Conservative Candidates). Will we be able to unseat him from the Senate? We sure wont if we do NOT try!!! There is a link in that Conservative Candidates to McLame’s opponents campaign and to donate.

I’ve never been able to figure out where the constitution grants the government the power to determine that one man deserves the fruit of someone else’s labor.

Liberty is not the right to do what one wants, but the right to do what one must.

I’m curious – exactly who gets to decide what I “must” do? If it’s me, then the difference between the two definitions becomes one of minor semantics (what I “want” to do versus what I feel I “must” do).

However, I suspect that in your worldview, what the individual “must” do is defined by the collective, most likely in the form of some sort of government entity. If that’s the case, then your statement is the sort of Orwellian doublespeek deines liberty as opression.

Thanks, but no thanks. I’ll take the first definition. In point of fact, if it came down to a choice between condemning my children to living under such a system, or dying a slow, lingering death from a cancer I can’t afford to treat, I’d take the cancer.

Anyone who thinks that a government-run system is going to give them more options and free choice should stop in at the DMV some time and try to get a drivers llcense in a color other than the one specified by the state.

As Sherlock Holmes would say, alimentary, my dear Watson…

Moe shoots and scores again.

*Never mind. I clicked on the link you added to his sig. Nice shot then, too.

Furthermore, nationalized healthcare is really frighteningly bad in most parts of the world. And that seems to be a function of how long it has been in place. Nations which only nationalized twenty years ago have problems with waiting lists for important operations and a lack of doctors,

But places that nationalized forty or more years ago, Like Britain are in near collapse, Look at the state of Britain’s system, do some homework, don’t be a brainwashed fool. The healthcare costs in Europe are bankrupting them faster than ours are bankrupting us.

Ta.

Normally, I wouldn’t quote an article from publicintegrity.org, but since it is populated by people like Hodding Carter, I felt resgraph would be more inclined to it.

A selective troll, not just a slowballing one. must be following Rule 13.

Too many in this country fail the old experimental method and they fail to understand that it is innocent until proven guilty not the other way around.

For our friend above, the scientific method is to come up with a hypothesis then prove your hypothesis to be right through experimentation or analysis. If in one case, argument or experiment the hypothesis fails then you hypothesis is wrong. Unfortunately, I think he missed out on that class in the public school system. Anyway, I think I perturbed him he is only answering me and not the other three people.