According to a new study released by the Mercatus Center of George Mason University, some of our most liberal states rank at the bottom in a measure of personal freedom. “Freedom in the 50 States, an index of personal and economic freedom,” finds the most free states to be first New Hampshire, then Colorado, followed by S. Dakota, Idaho, Texas, Missouri, Tennessee, Arizona, Virginia and N. Dakota.The bottom ten least free states in the U.S. are (in descending order) Connecticut, Illinois, Massachusetts, Washington, Hawaii, Maryland, California, Rhode Island, New Jersey, and bringing up the bottom is New York.
It is striking that some of the most Republican states are the most free and all the least free are Democrat states, isn’t it? (2008 Election Map)
In keeping with the institute’s namesake, American founder George Mason, the rankings are based on some supremely American concepts. Rankings were determined by measuring the personal and economic freedoms of the citizens of the various states coupled with the size and cost of government, education regulations, Second Amendment restrictions, as well as the amount of interference via regulations and police agencies on the populace.
“We develop and justify our ratings,” the paper’s summary reads, “and aggregation procedure on explicitly normative criteria, defining individual freedom as the ability to dispose of one’s own life, liberty, and justly acquired property however one sees fit, so long as one does not coercively infringe on another individual’s ability to do the same.”
Along with the various graphs and ranking lists, the report reviews each state in turn. To get a flavor of the criteria used to rank the sates, here, for instance, is what the report says about the least free state in the union, New York:
New York is by far the least free state in the Union (#50 economic, #48 personal). One of us lives in New York and can attest to the fact that few New Yorkers would be surprised by such a finding. Sadly, equally few New Yorkers seem to believe that anything can be done about the situation. New York has the highest taxes in the country. Property, selective sales, individual income, and corporate income taxes are particularly high. Spending on social services and “other” is well above national norms. Only Massachusetts has more government debt as a percentage of the economy. Government employment is higher than average. On personal freedoms, gun laws are extremely restrictive, but marijuana laws are better than average (while tobacco laws are extremely strict). Motorists are highly regulated, but several kinds of gambling are allowed statewide (not casinos, except on reservations). Home school regulations are burdensome, but asset forfeiture has been reformed. Along with Vermont, New York has the strictest health insurance community rating regulations. Mandated coverages are also very high. Eminent domain is totally unreformed. Perversely,the state strictly limits what grassroots PACs may give to candidates and parties, but not what corporations and unions may give.
A PDF document of the study can be downloaded at the Mercatus Center site.
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DerKrieger (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 8:03AM EST (link)“It is striking that some of the most Republican states are the most free and all the least free are Democrat states, isn’t it?”
Rhetorical question right?
What drives me crazy is the locust like behavior of Liberals. They destroy their home states and then leave to more friendly, and free, Conservative states and then continue to vote for politicians of a type that were responsible for the problems they fled! Just look at NC, CO, NV, et al. We COnservatives create business-friendly climates that attract business and labor from all over the US but the workers that move to Red states never seem to make the connection to business success and Conservatism.
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Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
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rcov092 (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 10:58AM EST (link)At least Locusts die leaving something to salvage. Raised in Miami, Colorado is “home” to me although for family reasons I am currently in Florida. I still own property there and think about going back.
Unfrotunately, we had an influx of pseudo millionaires from California in the early ninetys and earlier this decade that have turned the palce into a liberal cesspool. Coupled with the deep pockets of the self-loathing Gang of Four (Polis, Stryker, Gill, Bridges) the power in the Denver-Boulder Metro area skewed the conservative rural areas to turn the state into a burgeoning Socialist wasteland.
They convinced taxpayers to give them a roll back on TABOR (Taxpayer Bill Of Rights – Amendment limiting Taxes) and the Democratically controlled (and incompetent) government has gone hog wild spending and regulating to the point they have turned what was once a central point for business expansion in the West into a place that businesses have fled over the last several years.
They have also never seen an illegal Alien they did not want to give something free to (latest is in-state tutiion) despite earlier laws limiting state benefits to legal residents.
The abbreviation CO will be changed to CA-East very soon, they are destroying the economy there, just like they did when they controlled the state in earlier decades.
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I feel exactly that way about my state (PA)
Return to Revolution (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:10PM EST (link)Seems like it is gradually getting more and more blue, as if it is spreading from New England. The state that voted for Reagan, Bush 41, had 2 Repub senators (1.5 more accurately, counting Specter) now has voted dem the last 5 presidential elections and no repub senators. The Specter / Toomey race (assuming thats what it will be) will be a huge test for whether PA is really that much bluer or just sick of RINOs.
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Liberals Know How To Institutionalize and Consolidate Power
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:18PM EST (link)… ina way that shames conservatives. Conservatives are naive. I dont use the word cancer llightly, but I think cancer is better than aids or locusts. A few dirty cells metastaicize are corrupt one organ, consume that organ and move on to some vital organ is hit and the body dies. Liberal cancers are going right now in ways Republicans cant comprehend.
There is a simple answer
Aetius728 Wednesday, May 6th at 9:48PM EST (link)People don’t realize how liberal policies destroy their home states. Its not that people are dumb, I chalk it up to the pathetic state of civil and economic education in this country.
And it doesn’t help that our politicians are to stupid to ever point that out. A clear, easy to understand explanation of this in a presidential debate with fifty million viewers might be helpful. I’m not holding my breathe.
Seems to be a correlation
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 8:10AM EST (link)between states with more freedom and lower overall population density across total area. Could be sociologically related like the more rats you pack in a cage, the more you need to do to keep them from killing each other.
I’ve lived in South Dakota, Colorado, Idaho, and Texas, liked them all and considered staying in each .. especially Idaho. (amazingly beautiful state with really great people) But, I kept going back to my home state, California. Can’t beat the weather, beaches, mountains, skiing, and tech job opportunities. Looks like I sold out some freedom for comfort.. Maybe this is an insight to my liberal mind set.
funny, a lot of those libs are leaving
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 9:46AM EST (link)for Colorado, Arizona, and New Mexico to escape the oppressive CA government.
Molon Labe!
and good riddance to them
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 10:03AM EST (link)We have too many people here anyway.
It’s part of our VLW plan to send our liberal spores across the west and then the whole country. Soon every state will be broke and on the dole! Meant as a joke but there is some truth in there.
Seriously though, the CA government is oppressive and to continue on this path risks losing the very tax base needed to support this oppression.
actually you are right Librick
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 10:18AM EST (link)Look at New Mexico, Nevada, and Arizona. They turn more purple/blue every election. I doubt the people born and raised there are changing too much.
That is the shame of liberal immigration. They leave lib states for a better life, but still bring a lot of left wing views along. Look at the changes in Virginia and GA. You take away Northern Virgina and Atlanta and you have two quite red states. And you can throw in North Carolina too. Can’t the libs just stay put and stew in their own juices?
Molon Labe!
Sorry Doc but the worst
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 10:39AM EST (link)liberal tendency is to nanny everyone’s life. Now, not all libs do this but I will admit that a large element on our side have this compulsion to be our brothers keeper with no regard to whether he wants it or needs it.
Funny thing about California is that if you get outside SF, LA, and to a smaller degree Sac areas, you would find purple or even red state political affiliation. But the urban areas have the political power and our lib emigrants moves to those urban centers in other states. As you point out, we’re starting to see this occurring in many states.
And to your last point.: No, libs like to share our juices.
lol so true Lib
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 10:43AM EST (link)and I do know about the red pockets in California. This is the state that gave us Bomber Bob Dornan and Dana Rohrabacher; even though they hate each other
It also gave us Reagan, but that was a long time ago
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Think it was B1 Bob
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:16AM EST (link)Still a bomber though. I remember he was a cool character! Some say he was redistricted out of his seat.
Redistricted and possibly defrauded
Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:17AM EST (link)Some say a bunch of illegals voted in Sanchez.
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you guys like cities
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 10:45AM EST (link)they say if you took Baltimore out of Maryland it would be red. I think even New York would be red/libertarian if no NYC.
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You have to grab DC too to get it red
The_Gadfly (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 3:05PM EST (link)Of course, if you take Baltimore and DC out of Maryland, there isn’t much left of the state.
Yeah, I know DC is technically “outside” of Maryland, but the libs can’t stand to live in the city they govern, so they all live in either Northern Virginia or the I270 corridor of Maryland and commute to their cushy jobs in DC.
not much left population wise
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 3:16PM EST (link)but it is the “nice” part of Maryland, such as the Eastern Shore. It is funny how the worst parts are super blue.
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Of course LibRick...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 10:49AM EST (link)leftists do tend to want to share misery….JFK would probably be sad to see the state of the Democratic Party these days.
The Dems are not a rising tide…they are the lowest tide….but equality is equality…no matter how misreble everyone may end up…at least it will be equitable…nah that isn’t even true…cause we all know that we would still have the have’s and have-not’s.
It’s all a farce…you should just go libertarian and get it over with Rick…it.is.your.desitiny.
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Libertarian and Liberal
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:09AM EST (link)Maybe two ends of a circle? Perhaps the drive for absolute equality will move many liberals toward a libertarian end. I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one though.
I like the idea of libertarianism. But, to be honest, as I get older, Social Security and Medicare are looking pretty good to this boomer.
yeah, that is the problem with those issues
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:16AM EST (link)everyone knows we need to change the benefits, but they just want to do it after they get theirs. I think liberals at one time had something in common with libertarians, but now I believe those to words to be opposites.
Molon Labe!
Rush did a disservice with his branding of the Left
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:23AM EST (link)as liberals. Don’t get me wrong, it worked amazingly well as a shorthand for the Left that didn’t require a bunch of explaining political philosophies, but “liberal” completely mischaracterizes the American Left. There is nothing liberal about them; they are statist, conformist, and willing to use force to empower the state and to enforce conformity. Yeah, that’s liberal!
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It's not like he knows the differance...
Diogenes314 (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:30AM EST (link)He needs Bennett or Gingrich to explain mit to him first. Then he can pass it on as an original thought.
Good point
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:45AM EST (link)I’m a liberal but am not part of the American Left. In fact, on issues of 2nd amendment rights and unfettered religious freedom of expression, I may even be to the right of some on this site. But the label has been cast. Liberal = Left.
I don’t think Rush intended this and he probably relied on his audience to draw the distinction. But sound bites go a long way these days.
very true Achance, they are statists, socialists that
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:46AM EST (link)see people as only representatives of either the proletariat or bourgeoisie. We should go with Levin’s statists term. I know he did not start it, but he is right to try to get us to use it in place of liberal or progressive.
Molon Labe!
I'd rather just call them Communists, but
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:52AM EST (link)the only thing the government schooled know about communists is that mean old Republican Senator McCarthy was mean to them. The leadership cohort of the Democrat Party and the Left side non-profits, interest groups and unions generally are all communists and some of them even know it, the rest are just useful idiots.
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55555 nt
mom2oneson (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:03PM EST (link)The term "liberal" was hijacked a long time ago
Return to Revolution (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:16PM EST (link)into meaning Left. That’s why libertarians had to come up with the new term, ‘classical liberalism’.
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yeah, and Michael Moore taught them about
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 3:18PM EST (link)the great health care in Communist Cuba.
Molon Labe!
I wouldn't fault Rush on this one.
The_Gadfly (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 3:11PM EST (link)The leftists grabbed the term well before Rush was a national force. He just used the term as it was commonly understood but re-developed the characteristics associated with it. I concur that if this were the 1800′s I would probably be a liberal instead of a conservative, but it was during the midpart of the 20th century that the term went awry; say 1950-1965 when it became irrevocably associated with the excesses of statism.
You're so right about the lib emigrants moving to urban centers.
janis (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:34AM EST (link)While Tennessee is a very red state, just about every large city here is firmly blue. Nashville certainly is and so is Memphis. Both cities have a number of universities which definitely adds to the liberal draw. Outside those cities, most of the state trends red. Even traditionally Dem counties here went for McCain last year.
But Janis
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:51AM EST (link)I wouldn’t put too much stock in those Dem counties going for McCain. Since 2000, he has had a good sized liberal following and their alternate choice was openly “left” Obama.
Yes, I realize that, LibRick. But many of these
janis (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:01PM EST (link)same counties voted for Bush in 2004. And this is the state that made sure that Gore didn’t win in 2000, if you’ll recall. While many in Tennessee have traditionally voted Dem for years, they, like Zell Miller, have seen their party lurch so far to the left that they can’t stomach it anymore. So they either vote R or they are just independents and vote for the candidate and not the ticket. We are, after all, squarely in the Bible Belt here, and you will not find more enthusiastic gun owners this side of Texas!
Which leaves Tennessee
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:19PM EST (link)fundamentally Red. The battle is for independents and centrist democrats. Most independents are center right. The framing of GOP problems based on recent election cycles being the death of the party are way overblown.
All the GOP needs to do is field good candidates. There are many great GOP flag bearers out there right now and I’m sure you know this. The tide will turn; I’ve been around long enough to be confident this will happen… and look forward to it. Single party rule is a recipe for disaster and America will right itself.
Oh, by the way, LibRick, Tennessee went redder
janis (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:03PM EST (link)this year than any other time in the past 100 years. For the first time in at least that long, the state House and Senate are now Republican controlled. So it’s not just a fluke.
See my comment above. nt
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:20PM EST (link)Atlanta suburbs are very red
Finrod (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:44PM EST (link)The core of metro Atlanta may be very blue (they elected Cynthia McKinney there), but the suburbs are very red (they elected Newt Gingrich). It was less than 10 years ago that Georgia elected its first Republican governor in 136 years, and even though OH FL NC VA CO IN all went blue in the 2008 election, GA did not. If you removed both the core of Atlanta and its suburbs from Georgia, the net effect red/blue-wise would probably be a wash, or maybe even slightly blue; after all, the suburbs of Atlanta are growing faster than the central city.
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
More correlations
1stRichard (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 1:40PM EST (link)Reference…
http://maps.google.com/help/maps/elections/#2008_election
In most high population areas the race is in fact close near 50/50, see for your self. Next look at places like Northampton MA 83% to 15% or Amherst 87% to 10% MA, low population density and extremely bias. Yep, college towns….
It is clearly a bit more complicated then population density.
NH will soon be off that list
wayneinnh (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 8:57AM EST (link)Unfortunately, New Hampshire is quickly becoming New Massachusetts and will soon be racing off that list. In this legislative session alone our esteemed house has passed a seat belt law, the transgender bathroom bill and homosexual marriage. They took 4 hours debating the “bathroom bill” on the last day the budget needed to be passed. The budget was rushed through and punted to the senate as an incomplete work. We are now starting to hear the rumblings of an income or sales tax being implemented.
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that is a shame
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 9:47AM EST (link)New Hampshire has a history of libertarian ideas. I guess when you are surrounded by bad neighbors, it is going to affect you at some point.
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Especially if your bad neighbors move into your house.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:13PM EST (link)I think the New England states suffer from Taxachuesetts the same way we in the West suffer from Californication.
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Californicators...
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:42PM EST (link)LOL. The only thing that keeps us from squatting in your state are those Alaskan winters! Be thankful that we liberals are fair weather friends, otherwise we would never leave your house!
We have our share, Juneau and Sitka are Berzerkley North.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:55PM EST (link)Sitka used to be a timber and fishing town. Clinton shut down the timber industry and the fishing is leaning more towards chartering than commercial fishing. With the timber workers gone, it is government and tourism, so it is pretty hippy-trippy. Juneau is two towns and sometimes I’d like a wall and require visas and such to move between them. Downtown Juneau is the Socialist Workers’ Paradise. Suburban Juneau is pretty much a part of Red Alaska. It is purple since the Downtown Ds decide their nominee over Perrier and brie and then spend all their money deciding ours in the Mendenhall Valley.
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Lib Read your profile
AKSteveB (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 2:07PM EST (link)You really are one of us. Don’t fight it. Conservatives really are more fun at parties and we have better food and booze. I fought it for years!
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Well Steve, Im easy
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 2:21PM EST (link)and you guys do have way better parties, booze and food, but the devil is in the details and your better beer and barbecue, though tempting, hasn’t made me crossover yet.
well if that fails, another few months of Obama will do the trick nt
AKSteveB (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 3:13PM EST (link)Hell is other people – Sartre
disturbing
gonzo55 (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 9:10AM EST (link)From the study: “Regression analysis demonstrates that states enjoying more economic and personal freedom tend to attract substantially higher rates of internal net migration.”
Liberalism has been compared to the swine flu or another virus on here before. I think this is empirical confirmation of that. Can you imagine just enough of TheOne’s Hope army fleeing the oppressive laws they created in. say, NY, so that instead of having 70% of NY and 40% of Kansas, he has 51% of each?
As a silver lining, one they saturate the entire country, there’ll be no free states left to move to, so they may have to start governing based on reality as opposed to their ideas on how humanity can be perfected.
“Facts are stubborn things” — Ronald Wilson Reagan
gonzo, this effect can also be seen on a macro scale
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 10:23AM EST (link)The wealthy, successful countries are magnets for those from failed states (the majority of the world). Pretty much all migration on a world level goes from the Third World to the USA, Western Europe, and Australia.
Now, I am not a xenophobe, immigration can not be the enemy. The problem is the lack of assimilation, you see this mostly in Europe but it happens here too. It even happens when libs move to Red States. Of course the problem is multi-culturalism something created by the West.
Molon Labe!
No pity for those
TxCon (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 9:31AM EST (link)who live in the states with the least amount of freedom. It has been this way for awhile and yet they keep electing people that keep them in that condition. You get what you get.
I would have guessed Tx and VA as the most
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 9:52AM EST (link)free Southern states. The reasons for this are cultural and historical. They are bit less “Bible Belt” and had less Jim Crow influence. One might ask, “Jim Crow influence today?”. Yes, you can still see it in the stronger gun control laws of the deep South. I am not saying the deep South is bad on guns and freedom, but TX and VA are there for a reason, and these things effect the standings.
Molon Labe!
No pity?
1stRichard (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:47PM EST (link)Ouch, that hurt. I am in the five college area of W Mass, yes five indoctrination camps in one area. Typical voter turn out in my small town is about 30 percent but when some socialist liberal agenda is to be voted on it jumps to over 80 percent and as the colleges pour out mindless drones. Please have some pity for the residents and find a way to stop this madness.
May have been a little harsh
TxCon (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 3:27PM EST (link)as I realize that the 35% in those states are suffering because of the other 65%. They just seem to be the ones making the most noise when the policies that are championed by the ones they vote for are actually enacted.
A Great paper
dgulla Wednesday, May 6th at 10:23AM EST (link)I only hope that they do a follow up, comparing liberalism to whether or not states are becoming more or less free in addition to their current level of freedom.
I raise this point, because I strongly suspect that liberal states are becoming even less free as they incerasingly attack religious freedom by legalizing gay marriage and further denying our Christian heritage.
homeschooling in IL
jyjacobs Wednesday, May 6th at 10:59AM EST (link)as a 15 year resident of Chicago (prior to that my entire life was spent in the late great state of CA), IL is a joke, extremely high taxes (including 10.25% sales tax in Chicago alone), extreme corruption and waste, not to mention worthless urban public schools. The one bright side, as a former homeschooling parent, is that IL has absolutely no restrictions on homeschooling. I can take my child out of public school tomorrow if I decided to homeschool again, with absolutely no interference from city/county/or state. That is one freedom I appreciate.
JyJacobs
dgulla Wednesday, May 6th at 11:47AM EST (link)It is great that you can homeschool, but you don’t have the freedom to not pay income taxes which go to fund a public school system that teaches the anti-family agenda of gay rights, and evolution.
A pretty silly conclusion
crdvis16 Wednesday, May 6th at 11:39AM EST (link)Trying to directly correlate liberalism with anti-freedom by citing this study is a bit weak- there are plenty of other things that could correlate these anti freedom metrics the study uses.
As another poster already stated, population density might have more of an impact on how restrictive a local government may be. Demographics, education levels, and geographics could all also play a role.
Aside from that, I’d take exception with the idea that the metrics this study uses to define “anti freedom” are necessarily bad. For instance- the level of taxes of a local government do not follow a simplistic high=bad, low=good model. Take Maryland vs Alabama, for example. Maryland may have higher local taxes, but perhaps the reason for that is to support the superior public education system in Maryland (2 of the counties in Maryland are top10 in public education while Alabama as a state is pretty close to last). This model says that higher taxes = less freedom, and the conclusion from there is that Maryland is worse off. However, if you ask Marylanders you will likely find that they feel the education they received offsets any freedom lost from the increase in taxes needed to pay for it. In effect, higher taxes may mean less freedom but they still might be a good thing if they pay for something worthwhile. A similar argument could be made for restrictive gun control laws vs population density.
Also, to all the commenters upset about liberals moving into their states and turning them purple/blue- I don’t think mass migrations are the real cause here. The last two elections saw huge numbers of Republicans actually changing party identification to Democrat. Perhaps your neighbor who just moved in is a migrated Democrat, but your neighbor on the other side probably changed his party identification.
Last, would it be fair for a liberal blog to point to a study ranking education systems in states vs Political party identification and draw the conclusion that conservatives favor stupidity? I’m sure many on this board would take offense at such a claim- but why use the same logic to paint the other side as “anti freedom”?
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You know, this spin about registration changes
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 12:39PM EST (link)is getting old and we ought to find a way to counter it. I’d be willing to bet that most R to D registration changes were Rush’s Operation Chaos to cause trouble in Democrat primaries. The ones who made that change will be back before the next caucus/convention. The big change in registration is ACORN activity and a huge effort amongst college kiddies. God, why did we ever lower the voting age to eighteen? I know the old enough to serve and die argument, but really, we could have just kept it at twenty one and allowed active duty military to vote at 18.
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Yeah, I know I'm talking to a ghost, but...
The_Gadfly (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 3:21PM EST (link)Nope, my experimental data prove you wrong. I live in the People’s Republic, and we ain’t free, in fact, I’m a bit surprised we did as well as we did on their chart.
And the tax rates have nothing to do with the school quality.
The counties that top the education charts are also the wealthiest in the country, with high percentages of those kids going to private schools. In the previous incarnation of my job I used to be a contractor who supported a whole bunch of those schools.
You just said it:
aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 4:05PM EST (link)“… offsets any freedom lost from the increase in taxes needed to pay for it…”
There is freedom lost; you are simply arguing that this loss of freedom may be worth it to those in their respective states. While I would argue that freedom is intrinsically more valuable than government-provided “freebies” (which aren’t really free), that is not what the OP argues: it only says that there is less freedom in more liberal states, without saying whether this loss of freedom is worth it or not.
*Aesthete walks off, muttering something about reading comprehension…*
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clarification about homeschool laws on paper
mom2oneson (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 1:06PM EST (link)are very different than what goes on in the county. If the local district wants to give someone a hard time they can find some kind of truancy charge for them and also sick social services on them. TX which is not liberal and has great homeschool laws on paper has had horrible cases of problems from the local districts. These are small disctircts too not the big ones. I’m sure it’s driven by money. I know people in NE states with pain in the arm laws on paper that have no problems as long as their ducks are in a row in the disricts filing cabinet. If you are in any state and have a child with special needs you should expect a hard time, the money for a child with a label is just to big for them not to try and get some.
Republicans/conservatives are often part of the school district too unlike maybe other state departments where we expect them to be dems or very liberal anti-family types. This harrassment is done by republicans not just dems.
I’m sure there is some type of word for the law on paper for the state vs how things are done in a specific county, I don’t know what it is though.
Something wrong with the Study
jackbenimble (Diary) Thursday, May 7th at 9:02AM EST (link)I have lived in California, Colorado, Tennessee, New Hampshire, a few other states and most of my life in my home state of Wyoming. There is something seriously wrong with the study if it ranks Wyoming, with zero State Income Taxes and low sales taxes, behind Colorado which has both a sales tax and a substantial income tax. Having experienced both, I will take Wyoming every single time in terms of freedom.
Wyoming does have fairly high taxes but they are all aimed at one industry: mineral extraction. I happen to be in that business and it makes me one of Wyoming’s heavy taxpayers that carries the load for the rest of the people in the state. Most of Wyoming’s people understand that they are getting a better deal than almost everybody else but they only have a dim understanding of why.
But in fairness, mineral extraction taxes are a completely different animal from almost every other kind of tax. First, unlike other types of property which is assessed and taxed every year, mineral property is not taxed while it is in the ground. My family has owned coal and oil and gas minerals for over 100 years and never paid any taxes on them while other tax payers who owned property of similar value have paid taxes. It makes a certain amount of sense to even the ledger and play catch-up when the minerals are finally extracted. The second reason is that when minerals are extracted and shipped away, the state is permanently diminished. Most property is very persistant and can be taxed year after year but when a million tons of coal gets loaded on a train it is gone for good. It makes sense for the State to make hay while the sun is shining and they have done a fair (but not great) job of capturing this value for posterity in the form of a permanent mineral trust fund that will pay interest to future generations.
In short, comparing Wyoming’s extraction taxes to Colorado’s income taxes is an apples for oranges comparison. The average Wyomingite has a far lower tax burden then the average Coloradan.
In short, I think this study is GREAT. Let the liberal locusts flood Colorado! We don’t want them here.
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Same problem with the way it ranks Alaska.
Achance (Diary) Thursday, May 7th at 11:13AM EST (link)Alaska has very high taxes on the oil industry and very low or no taxes on anything else. In Alaska and other natural resource extraction states, most resource revenue goes directly to the state government and then is distributed into the economy. The study seems to use a “one size fits all” model which doesn’t account for differences in governmental structure. Large, sparsely populated Western states do things with the state government that in smaller, more densely populated states are done with local governments. Alaska further “grows” its government by treating Alaska Natives as full citizens of the State rather than as federal Indians. Alaska could shed a lot of that government just by letting the BIA take care of rural Alaska rather than the State. .
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