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	<title>Comments on: Hatin&#8217; On the GOP, The National Council for a New America and YOU</title>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 20:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all have our views, and even as conservatives we&#039;re going to have differences. Nobody is going to line up 100% with your views, or mine, or whoever.

That means, we have to learn to work together and find a way to finesse our differences in views. And to be a coherent party, rather than just a coalition of expediency - we need to determine what is the core set of principles/views that defines us and around which we can rally and work with each other.

Of course, coming to agreement on core values is itself a challenge. And priorities can change depending on the world we live in. What was key 10 or 20 years ago may not be key today. And you also have to be able to recruit enough people to make a party viable.

But in any party, we&#039;re not going to get everything our way. We have to engage in &quot;delayed gratification&quot; on some of our issues - not that we shut up about them, but that we subordinate them to the priority, trusting that their time will come.

And in particular, given the dangerous turn our nation has taken under Obama and his cohorts, I would argue that our priority and unifying focus has to be on fiscal conservatism and small government. That&#039;s where the fire is. 

That&#039;s also the issue where too many of our &quot;moderate&quot; party leaders are pouring gasoline instead of water. Which means that I agree with you on the end - but the means has to be feasible to. Splintering is the last thing we need - but selling out first principles is just as bad or worse. Finding the sweet spot between is the challenge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all have our views, and even as conservatives we&#8217;re going to have differences. Nobody is going to line up 100% with your views, or mine, or whoever.</p>
<p>That means, we have to learn to work together and find a way to finesse our differences in views. And to be a coherent party, rather than just a coalition of expediency &#8211; we need to determine what is the core set of principles/views that defines us and around which we can rally and work with each other.</p>
<p>Of course, coming to agreement on core values is itself a challenge. And priorities can change depending on the world we live in. What was key 10 or 20 years ago may not be key today. And you also have to be able to recruit enough people to make a party viable.</p>
<p>But in any party, we&#8217;re not going to get everything our way. We have to engage in &#8220;delayed gratification&#8221; on some of our issues &#8211; not that we shut up about them, but that we subordinate them to the priority, trusting that their time will come.</p>
<p>And in particular, given the dangerous turn our nation has taken under Obama and his cohorts, I would argue that our priority and unifying focus has to be on fiscal conservatism and small government. That&#8217;s where the fire is. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s also the issue where too many of our &#8220;moderate&#8221; party leaders are pouring gasoline instead of water. Which means that I agree with you on the end &#8211; but the means has to be feasible to. Splintering is the last thing we need &#8211; but selling out first principles is just as bad or worse. Finding the sweet spot between is the challenge</p>
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		<title>By: tedpomeroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tedpomeroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 20:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spending time on Jeb Bush&#039;s alleged statements reported throught the press filter.  

Shame on all of you, Rush &amp; Sean.

We are losers as long as rise to this bait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spending time on Jeb Bush&#8217;s alleged statements reported throught the press filter.  </p>
<p>Shame on all of you, Rush &amp; Sean.</p>
<p>We are losers as long as rise to this bait.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Fletcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 20:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that we are at the point where we as conservatives can no longer give up any ground. We are always the ones who who are told to keep quiet, make concessions and agree to everything and then the party will maybe listen to us. I say NO MORE! Victory cannot be obtained through concessions. Victory can only be obtained by a complete take over of the party. I for one do not wish to agree to any moderate view of anything, because that is what we have been doing for more than eight years now. Look where that policy has gotten us Nowhere!No power in Congress or the White House.
 It is now time to make a stand and take the party back. We need to tell moderates like McCain to sit down and shut up because they do not speak for us. 
I think that the only way the Republican party is going to listen to conservatives is if we do withhold ALL of our support unless the party&#039;s views agree with our own (that includes candidates).

Eric Fletcher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that we are at the point where we as conservatives can no longer give up any ground. We are always the ones who who are told to keep quiet, make concessions and agree to everything and then the party will maybe listen to us. I say NO MORE! Victory cannot be obtained through concessions. Victory can only be obtained by a complete take over of the party. I for one do not wish to agree to any moderate view of anything, because that is what we have been doing for more than eight years now. Look where that policy has gotten us Nowhere!No power in Congress or the White House.<br />
 It is now time to make a stand and take the party back. We need to tell moderates like McCain to sit down and shut up because they do not speak for us.<br />
I think that the only way the Republican party is going to listen to conservatives is if we do withhold ALL of our support unless the party&#8217;s views agree with our own (that includes candidates).</p>
<p>Eric Fletcher</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we can all agree that Barack Obama is an incompetent lightweight who is obsessed with celebrating himself. See - common ground!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can all agree that Barack Obama is an incompetent lightweight who is obsessed with celebrating himself. See &#8211; common ground!</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do allow liberals to post in comments, but they do have be well-behaved, which comes down to 1) rational and informed commentary; 2) keep out of internal Republican party matters; 3) no put-downs on Republicans (which is different than respectful differences - and if you don&#039;t know the difference, you won&#039;t last long).

In brief, don&#039;t take a dump on our living room carpet if you want to remain welcome as a visitor.

We do have a few who keep in line, and they can provide us with a good challenge and some insights as to how we come across.

Your comments today are violating these guidelines. Keep this up, and one of our moderators will be showng you the door before long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do allow liberals to post in comments, but they do have be well-behaved, which comes down to 1) rational and informed commentary; 2) keep out of internal Republican party matters; 3) no put-downs on Republicans (which is different than respectful differences &#8211; and if you don&#8217;t know the difference, you won&#8217;t last long).</p>
<p>In brief, don&#8217;t take a dump on our living room carpet if you want to remain welcome as a visitor.</p>
<p>We do have a few who keep in line, and they can provide us with a good challenge and some insights as to how we come across.</p>
<p>Your comments today are violating these guidelines. Keep this up, and one of our moderators will be showng you the door before long.</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
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		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of us here think you&#039;re an idiot.

See?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of us here think you&#8217;re an idiot.</p>
<p>See?</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joeyjojo72</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeyjojo72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people on both sides can agree that Mitt Romney is big fat phony.  See, common ground!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people on both sides can agree that Mitt Romney is big fat phony.  See, common ground!</p>
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		<title>By: NightTwister</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/warner_todd_huston/2009/05/04/hatin-on-the-gop-the-national-council-for-a-new-america-and-you/#comment-6481</link>
		<dc:creator>NightTwister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...but rather the &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt;.  When they start out with a liberal agenda right from the start, it just doesn&#039;t bode well for the future of the group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but rather the <i>what</i>.  When they start out with a liberal agenda right from the start, it just doesn&#8217;t bode well for the future of the group.</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the conservative voices on talk radio (I&#039;m looking at you Laura Ingraham) don&#039;t need to make a joke of this. We all need to get involved, bring people under the big tent and rule from the conservative viewpoint. But, and it&#039;s a big but, laughing this kind of effort off nationally undermines the entire right.

I like this idea (although agree that we don&#039;t need a NEW America, my old America is just fine - as long as BO isn&#039;t leading it) and think it has potential. Is it where it needs to be? Not yet, but I think if we get conservative voices behind the idea and help mold the message, we&#039;ll get somewhere positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the conservative voices on talk radio (I&#8217;m looking at you Laura Ingraham) don&#8217;t need to make a joke of this. We all need to get involved, bring people under the big tent and rule from the conservative viewpoint. But, and it&#8217;s a big but, laughing this kind of effort off nationally undermines the entire right.</p>
<p>I like this idea (although agree that we don&#8217;t need a NEW America, my old America is just fine &#8211; as long as BO isn&#8217;t leading it) and think it has potential. Is it where it needs to be? Not yet, but I think if we get conservative voices behind the idea and help mold the message, we&#8217;ll get somewhere positive.</p>
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		<title>By: crux</title>
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		<dc:creator>crux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see your point.  In my opinion, the social issues I mentioned should be state issues, not in the  national platform.   I agree with you - life, marriage,  and other social issues are paramount;  but should those issues keep the GOP divided right now?  I would be happy, no happier, if our GOP legislators and reps, quit spending like the dems!   I see no real difference between the DEMS and the REPUBS.  Thus, my extreme frustration.  Which is why the Repubs keep loosing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point.  In my opinion, the social issues I mentioned should be state issues, not in the  national platform.   I agree with you &#8211; life, marriage,  and other social issues are paramount;  but should those issues keep the GOP divided right now?  I would be happy, no happier, if our GOP legislators and reps, quit spending like the dems!   I see no real difference between the DEMS and the REPUBS.  Thus, my extreme frustration.  Which is why the Repubs keep loosing.</p>
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		<title>By: azaeroprof</title>
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		<dc:creator>azaeroprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything that has McCain as a leader is doomed to ultimately be a stick in the eye of conservatives.  He may wrap the stick in pretty pastel cloth, but it hurts just the same when it penetrates your eyeball!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything that has McCain as a leader is doomed to ultimately be a stick in the eye of conservatives.  He may wrap the stick in pretty pastel cloth, but it hurts just the same when it penetrates your eyeball!</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually agree with you, but not this time. If THEY want a seat at my table, they can ask nicely, and then THEY can listen to what I have to say. One of the first items on the agenda is a name change, because I&#039;m not looking for a new America, I&#039;m looking for the one I enjoyed under Ronald Reagan. &quot;New&quot; as in &quot;New and Improved&quot; was never a phrase that crossed his lips. The closest he ever came was &quot;Morning in America&quot; and even that was designed to invoke remembrances of things that have gone right in the past.

Next up would be the point which is repeatedly made on this site that elections have consequences. You guys lost badly in the last election. It was your ideas that failed. Man up to it and step aside. Let new leaders with different ideas take the stage. Notice I didn&#039;t say &quot;new&quot; because they aren&#039;t new. They are older than the country, possibly older than man himself. And when we provide the public with a choice not an echo, they seem to like those old ideas. That they just happen to be the ideas you keep pooh-poohing might be what has led to your failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually agree with you, but not this time. If THEY want a seat at my table, they can ask nicely, and then THEY can listen to what I have to say. One of the first items on the agenda is a name change, because I&#8217;m not looking for a new America, I&#8217;m looking for the one I enjoyed under Ronald Reagan. &#8220;New&#8221; as in &#8220;New and Improved&#8221; was never a phrase that crossed his lips. The closest he ever came was &#8220;Morning in America&#8221; and even that was designed to invoke remembrances of things that have gone right in the past.</p>
<p>Next up would be the point which is repeatedly made on this site that elections have consequences. You guys lost badly in the last election. It was your ideas that failed. Man up to it and step aside. Let new leaders with different ideas take the stage. Notice I didn&#8217;t say &#8220;new&#8221; because they aren&#8217;t new. They are older than the country, possibly older than man himself. And when we provide the public with a choice not an echo, they seem to like those old ideas. That they just happen to be the ideas you keep pooh-poohing might be what has led to your failure.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmuy8</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmuy8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until they &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; something, I&#039;ll regard them as toxic waste. 

You want to be a &quot;leader?&quot; Then: Lead! Put your reputation on the line, go after oh-so-popular &quot;Dear Leader.&quot; Take down a Democrat--any Democrat, anywhere. 

Take on a leftist group, any leftist group--pick a fight and show no mercy--I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s the Democrat Grandmas for Hot Fudge Brownie Kindergarten Snack-Time. Take them down. 

This Democrat party and it&#039;s money-men have poured millions into every little left-wing outfit they could find, they have cultivated a weed garden of thousands  and thousands of foot-soldier--make them howl in silence as the tentacles are cut away. What are they going to do, go public with the fact that they&#039;ve indirectly funded some kooky group? Let them bring in their reinforcement of ACLU lawyers and media &quot;watchdogs&quot;--then drag them down into the mud and slop, too.

There&#039;s a lot of targets out there, and some have some awful skeletons in the closet--rattle them bones and tie the carcass to the Democrat Party. 

Show me there&#039;s some fight in &lt;b&gt;your&lt;/b&gt; belly, not a desire for more grapeshot in mine. 

If this is to be a fight, if this it to allow you to lead--then show me you understand someone has to lose and that you have no problem making the loser the Democrat; that you can&#039;t wait to make that loser the Democrat. You&#039;ve got the money, you&#039;ve got the reputation: You&#039;ll find plenty of soldiers when &lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt; start fighting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until they <i>do</i> something, I&#8217;ll regard them as toxic waste. </p>
<p>You want to be a &#8220;leader?&#8221; Then: Lead! Put your reputation on the line, go after oh-so-popular &#8220;Dear Leader.&#8221; Take down a Democrat&#8211;any Democrat, anywhere. </p>
<p>Take on a leftist group, any leftist group&#8211;pick a fight and show no mercy&#8211;I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s the Democrat Grandmas for Hot Fudge Brownie Kindergarten Snack-Time. Take them down. </p>
<p>This Democrat party and it&#8217;s money-men have poured millions into every little left-wing outfit they could find, they have cultivated a weed garden of thousands  and thousands of foot-soldier&#8211;make them howl in silence as the tentacles are cut away. What are they going to do, go public with the fact that they&#8217;ve indirectly funded some kooky group? Let them bring in their reinforcement of ACLU lawyers and media &#8220;watchdogs&#8221;&#8211;then drag them down into the mud and slop, too.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of targets out there, and some have some awful skeletons in the closet&#8211;rattle them bones and tie the carcass to the Democrat Party. </p>
<p>Show me there&#8217;s some fight in <b>your</b> belly, not a desire for more grapeshot in mine. </p>
<p>If this is to be a fight, if this it to allow you to lead&#8211;then show me you understand someone has to lose and that you have no problem making the loser the Democrat; that you can&#8217;t wait to make that loser the Democrat. You&#8217;ve got the money, you&#8217;ve got the reputation: You&#8217;ll find plenty of soldiers when <b>you</b> start fighting.</p>
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		<title>By: madnorskie</title>
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		<dc:creator>madnorskie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who led us to failure in the past will not be the leaders who can recapture disillusioned conservatives, Libertarians, and conservative Democrats.  The GOP must continue to be a &quot;Big Tent&quot; party, but the underlying principle of the party, which connects all those within the tent, must be its dedication to liberty.  McCain, Romney, Bush, and many of the others &quot;leading&quot; this organization have proven that they do not default to the principles of liberty, but to the concerns of their own political careers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who led us to failure in the past will not be the leaders who can recapture disillusioned conservatives, Libertarians, and conservative Democrats.  The GOP must continue to be a &#8220;Big Tent&#8221; party, but the underlying principle of the party, which connects all those within the tent, must be its dedication to liberty.  McCain, Romney, Bush, and many of the others &#8220;leading&#8221; this organization have proven that they do not default to the principles of liberty, but to the concerns of their own political careers.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dugas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dugas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe 110% that their intentions are wholly selfish and that looking
&quot;material&quot; to use to win their fiefdoms.  
Actions baby that&#039;s what I wanna see!  Not a bunch of &quot;I feel your pain&quot; and &quot;I know where you&#039;re coming from...&quot; .  I don&#039;t want to 
HEAR them agree with us I want to SEE them agree with us!  I want them to FIGHT DAMMIT and stop what&#039;s going on.  I want our stinking representatives to represent us ALL the time and not just election time!  I want them to use every dirty trick, loophole, rule
tv camera, radio station they can beg borrow or steal to stop the 
ruining of my country!  It&#039;s time WE used the courts and the Constitution to OUR advantage in this fight.  And it&#039;s time to make sure that every politician and person on the Right, or Conservative or Republican or Libertarian...whatever, hears the call and knows that it&#039;s time to fight this with all we have.  We have to make a non stop deafening noise by any and all means possible and MAKE them listen to us.......make them represent US!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe 110% that their intentions are wholly selfish and that looking<br />
&#8220;material&#8221; to use to win their fiefdoms.<br />
Actions baby that&#8217;s what I wanna see!  Not a bunch of &#8220;I feel your pain&#8221; and &#8220;I know where you&#8217;re coming from&#8230;&#8221; .  I don&#8217;t want to<br />
HEAR them agree with us I want to SEE them agree with us!  I want them to FIGHT DAMMIT and stop what&#8217;s going on.  I want our stinking representatives to represent us ALL the time and not just election time!  I want them to use every dirty trick, loophole, rule<br />
tv camera, radio station they can beg borrow or steal to stop the<br />
ruining of my country!  It&#8217;s time WE used the courts and the Constitution to OUR advantage in this fight.  And it&#8217;s time to make sure that every politician and person on the Right, or Conservative or Republican or Libertarian&#8230;whatever, hears the call and knows that it&#8217;s time to fight this with all we have.  We have to make a non stop deafening noise by any and all means possible and MAKE them listen to us&#8230;&#8230;.make them represent US!</p>
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		<title>By: Warner Todd Huston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warner Todd Huston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I know, but the battle never ends, ya know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I know, but the battle never ends, ya know?</p>
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		<title>By: skorrent1</title>
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		<dc:creator>skorrent1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Many of the issues which create the need for the term “moderate” are social issues&quot;.

I&#039;d have to say that the most numerous GOP &quot;moderates&quot; are those who hate the &quot;pork&quot; but love the &quot;bacon.&quot;  Remember the &quot;9000 earmarks&quot; that cluttered the budget that just passed?  40% of them were inserted by Republicans.  We have one principled conservative on our local city council who votes against the &quot;free&quot; money that the state and feds want to &quot;give&quot; them.  The vote is always 6 to 1.  Don&#039;t assume that the fiscon message is an easy winner.  How many state Republicans salivated for the Porkulous bucks?

Don&#039;t assume that the defcon message is an easy sell, either.  There are lots of voters who are getting the attitude that &quot;terror&quot;, Iraq, Afghanistan are just so &quot;yesterday.&quot;  Can&#039;t we all just get along?

But we should drop traditional marriage, that has overwhelming popular support?  That draws majority minority support --- in California??  Just because the 2% gay population has a disproportionate voice in the MSM and Hollywood?  I don&#039;t think so!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many of the issues which create the need for the term “moderate” are social issues&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to say that the most numerous GOP &#8220;moderates&#8221; are those who hate the &#8220;pork&#8221; but love the &#8220;bacon.&#8221;  Remember the &#8220;9000 earmarks&#8221; that cluttered the budget that just passed?  40% of them were inserted by Republicans.  We have one principled conservative on our local city council who votes against the &#8220;free&#8221; money that the state and feds want to &#8220;give&#8221; them.  The vote is always 6 to 1.  Don&#8217;t assume that the fiscon message is an easy winner.  How many state Republicans salivated for the Porkulous bucks?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t assume that the defcon message is an easy sell, either.  There are lots of voters who are getting the attitude that &#8220;terror&#8221;, Iraq, Afghanistan are just so &#8220;yesterday.&#8221;  Can&#8217;t we all just get along?</p>
<p>But we should drop traditional marriage, that has overwhelming popular support?  That draws majority minority support &#8212; in California??  Just because the 2% gay population has a disproportionate voice in the MSM and Hollywood?  I don&#8217;t think so!!</p>
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		<title>By: texas214</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve written this before and I couldn&#039;t agree with you more. Political parties don&#039;t equal political purity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve written this before and I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more. Political parties don&#8217;t equal political purity.</p>
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		<title>By: red_oakster</title>
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		<dc:creator>red_oakster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;take my marbles and go home&quot;  reaction is misplaced. This forum is a place to nail down consensus on whatever issues we can get. If conservatives can get moderates to sign on to lower taxes, missile defense, and free market health care, let&#039;s pocket those gains. Let&#039;s establish and celebrate consensus where the agreement is on conservative positions. Of course we disagree with them about abortion or embryonic stem cell destruction. Agree to disagree. And don&#039;t forget foks like Boehner and Cantor and Pence and Kyl are much more conservative than their precedessors (Gerald Ford, Bob Michels, and Howard Baker).

Primaries are the place for promoting conservative principles and candidates. Sometimes we should challenge incumbents. Former Cong Gilchrest was a major league porker. So Harris won the primary, but lost the general in a Democratic year? It&#039;s only a big deal if Harris doesn&#039;t try again in a normal competitive year. And when retirements open up GOP seats in red states, or when Dem incumbents run for re-election in red states, push hard for conservative candidates.  

Who cares if some bureaucrat at NRSCC or some member of NCNA doesn&#039;t like Pat Toomey? Their precedessors didn&#039;t like Reagan. Ignore them! And where we have a blue state contest like the Illinois senate contest in 2010, where a national security hawk/social liberal  like Mike Kirk is the only GOP candidate with a remote shot at winning, take the half loaf. Kirk will vote for most if not all Republican judicial appointments in any event.

Conservatives are winning. Welcome moderates and half a loaf when it&#039;s the best we can do. And fight hard to add conservatives in solid red territory whenever the opportunity presents itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;take my marbles and go home&#8221;  reaction is misplaced. This forum is a place to nail down consensus on whatever issues we can get. If conservatives can get moderates to sign on to lower taxes, missile defense, and free market health care, let&#8217;s pocket those gains. Let&#8217;s establish and celebrate consensus where the agreement is on conservative positions. Of course we disagree with them about abortion or embryonic stem cell destruction. Agree to disagree. And don&#8217;t forget foks like Boehner and Cantor and Pence and Kyl are much more conservative than their precedessors (Gerald Ford, Bob Michels, and Howard Baker).</p>
<p>Primaries are the place for promoting conservative principles and candidates. Sometimes we should challenge incumbents. Former Cong Gilchrest was a major league porker. So Harris won the primary, but lost the general in a Democratic year? It&#8217;s only a big deal if Harris doesn&#8217;t try again in a normal competitive year. And when retirements open up GOP seats in red states, or when Dem incumbents run for re-election in red states, push hard for conservative candidates.  </p>
<p>Who cares if some bureaucrat at NRSCC or some member of NCNA doesn&#8217;t like Pat Toomey? Their precedessors didn&#8217;t like Reagan. Ignore them! And where we have a blue state contest like the Illinois senate contest in 2010, where a national security hawk/social liberal  like Mike Kirk is the only GOP candidate with a remote shot at winning, take the half loaf. Kirk will vote for most if not all Republican judicial appointments in any event.</p>
<p>Conservatives are winning. Welcome moderates and half a loaf when it&#8217;s the best we can do. And fight hard to add conservatives in solid red territory whenever the opportunity presents itself.</p>
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