UAW Walks Out on GM During Bailout Negotiations


When the Auto Bailout was approved by Congress one of the stipulations was that the automakers had to get concessions from the unions.

So, in an attempt to abide by Congress’ demands, GM has been in negotiations with the United Auto Workers to make the requisite deals. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem as if the UAW is in the mood for making any deals, at least if it involves any cuts for them. Consequently the UAW has decided to walk out on further negotiations.

Sadly, instead of trying to arrive at a fair package with General Motors, the UAW would rather stubbornly fight them at a time when everyone is being asked to trim expectations in this faltering economy.

At issue is the UAW administered retiree health care fund. This fund is one of the biggest reasons that GM workers see a total per-employee labor cost of $69 per hour while its competition, such as Toyota, only is saddled with hourly costs of $53. This higher cost makes the U.S. automakers less competitive.

GM says they have a solution to this exorbitant health-care fund.

GM says it owes $20.4 billion to the fund, and the loan terms set a target of giving the union half of the value in cash and half in GM stock. The trust fund would take over health care payments for GM’s roughly 500,000 blue-collar retirees and spouses starting Jan. 1, 2010.

The trust, called a voluntary employees beneficiary association, would let GM move about $46.7 billion in retiree health care costs off its books, making it more cost-competitive with Asian automakers. It is the key feature of a new four-year contract signed in 2007 with the UAW.

Not good enough say union bosses.

It appears the unions won’t bend even if the whole company goes down the tubes. I expect they imagine that with their guy in the White House they don’t have to make the same sort of sacrifices the rest of the country has to make?


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As long as Obama/Congress will give the Big 3 unlimited cash

bk (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 7:21AM EST (link)

the UAW has no reason to agree to any cuts.

 

Let the Unions get what They Deserve

wolfgang Monday, February 16th at 7:26AM EST (link)

They long ago started work on killing the Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs.
They finished their work in the sixties and seventies, its just taken that long for rigor mortis to set up in the corpse.
They couldn’t bury the corpses in Galveston, after the hurricane in 1900, but we can still bury this one.

The Unions and the CEOs are just as bad

bk (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 8:42AM EST (link)

The CEOs will lie and do whatever they need to in order to pad theor wallets. The Unions see the business as prey to be attacked and pillaged, not as a partnership.

I don’t see much difference between the two. Neither looks out for the good of the companies that put money in their wallets. But that’s the way companies are today. “If you want loyalty, buy a dog” is what one executive of my company told a group of employees once.

 
 

The UAW concessions should have been forced

Old_Crow (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 7:31AM EST (link)

during the hearings in December. Without an upfront commitment to union salary and benefit cuts, it is a waste of time to continue negotiations.

“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison

 

Goodbye GM

Scope (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 7:46AM EST (link)

I also read that the Unions don’t want GM stock as right now it isn’t worth much and, there is no guarantee that it will improve as the company is very shaky right now. They want the cash. They are laying off 10,000 white collar workers, the rest are getting a 10% pay cut, and they have offered something like 65,000 hourly workers buy outs. I believe the bailout money cannot go toward past excessive buy out amounts. You are so right, the unions would rather see the company fold under Congressional pressure then to agree to reasonable concessions. This is precisely why I hate unions.

It has been reported that GM has used $1 billion of the bailout money for it’s company in Brazil. They are profitable in Brazil and in other countries as they don’t have the excessive mandates by other countries governments. I believe we will see a whole new GM outside of the US and they will pack up and leave the US.

I just heard this morning on the radio news that Obama doesn’t want a Car Czar, or any one person in charge of the Auto bailout process, even though they would have a complete staff. He believes that Geithner and Summers should be in charge of the bailout and restructuring process, as they can monitor the money and where it is being spent. I see that as King Obama appointing his first born son (Geithner) to centralize all power and control. So far, Prince Geithner has not impressed anyone, and seems to be as inexperienced and incompetent as he. Just another example of the Libs rewarding lapdogs.

The 'unintended consequence' from the UAW's

Old_Crow (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 8:19AM EST (link)

actions is that the Big 3 will continue to shrink manufacturing in the US and shift their manufacturing to more profitable ventures off shore.

A rational UAW would realize they are forcing their extinction. However, my experience negotiating with their TOP 2110 division showed me that rational thinking does not often rule the day.

“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison

GM already has lots of vehicles sold in the US made in Canada/Mexico

bk (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 8:39AM EST (link)

Is buying one of those more “patriotic” than buying a Toyota made in Texas, a Nissan made in Mississippi, etc.? What if GM moved all its plants to Mexico and Canada?

 

Old Crow More than just auto manufacturing will move off shore

Scope (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 9:06AM EST (link)

I agree it is an unintended consequence as a result of the UAW demands, but I do believe that more than just the manufacturing companies that supply the auto companies will move out of the US. Because we have had the 2nd highest Corporate tax rate in the world, many many companies (I’m thinking jeans manufacturers) have already left for greener pastures. With Obama and his maniacs in control, and they don’t favor tax cuts for any of the big evil profitable companies, if they haven’t already seen the writing on the wall, they will soon enough. I suspect the big oil companies will make some major changes in the near future, if not for tax reasons, then for a totally incompetent (and pay to play) government reasons. Chicago has moved to Washington.

 
 
 

No Car Czar= one less cat to try to heard

Scope (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 7:51AM EST (link)

I guess Obama is finding out just how hard it is to have total control over his administration and the Libs in Congress.

 

Let 'em fail!

tempest Monday, February 16th at 8:07AM EST (link)

We no longer need GM or Chrysler. I will buy Fords as they took no money, but I will never ever buy another GM or Chrysler since those companies are now on the dole and go against everything this country used to stand for!

Let them fail. No one bailed out the buggy whip makers when they failed.

gekster (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 9:35PM EST (link)

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved

Actually, I must disagree

Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 9:53PM EST (link)

Buggy makers are indeed a thing of the past. As a girlfriend of three days my sophmore year in college proved, buggy WHIP makers are still very, very much in business.

TMI [nt]

Bill S (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 10:02PM EST (link)

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

I could go on

Jack_Savage (Diary) Tuesday, February 17th at 6:31PM EST (link)

And THEN it would be TMI….

 
 
 
 
 

A perfect time to bust the UAW

Bill S (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 8:12AM EST (link)

Lots of people are out of work and would risk crossing the picket lines to earn money to feed their families. Screw the UAW – let ‘em walk. GM should hire replacements and let the UAW starve.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 

If one of the stipulations

sdan (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 8:12AM EST (link)

was union concessions and the union won’t agree to any then GM should have to give the money back and go through the bankruptcy courts just like any other company that is failing. It’s very hard for me to feel sorry for union workers that are making more money then most of the people who are going to be called on to pay for this bailout (U.S. taxpayers).

 

sounds like a good day to vote the UAW out

James_Reynolds (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 8:30AM EST (link)

of GM. If I was a worker there I would start up this campaign. This proves my saying If the union is suppose to represent you to the company, who represents you to the union so they don’t screw you.

 

GM should file tomorrow...

texas214 (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 11:19AM EST (link)

Don’t ask anyone for help other than line up “debtor-in-possession” financing. As much as I hate to say this, they will need to stiff the government too; because in this situation they cannot be trusted as an honest broker given the money the UAW has given the Obama and the Dem’s.

Immediately put out a help wanted sign paying $30.00 per hour plus insurance copay allowance. My guess is that in places like Michigan you will here cat calls and complaints of all type, however I bet you are back to full strength of a work force within 60 days from people who want to work hard and are happy to have a job. That’s the way the marketplace works.

 

Chapter 11 is a good alternative

Thomas_Hauber Monday, February 16th at 1:42PM EST (link)

There is no reason for GM to continue fighting this. There reputation is already trashed, no one who cares is buying a car from them anyways.

The UAW and the bond holders have both brought this on themselves.

 

GM, Ford, Chrysler

JHancock (Diary) Monday, February 16th at 6:53PM EST (link)

should have gone under years ago.
1)They havn’t built a relevant productother than the SUV and Minivan in the past 20 years.

2)They are bloated with contractual and union agreements that arn’t sustainable.

3)They are stuck paying factory workers entirely too much. Someone without a degree shouldn’t get payed 60-70k a year to do a repetitive job a robot could do.

now I’m not talking about skilled labor or college trained engeneers…but dueto unions regular line workers get great pay with little educational investment on their part, because they ahve the unions behind them