Newsweek’s Jon Meacham and Evan Thomas are tired of all this talk of socialism. We need to stop talking about yesterday’s news, they say, and embrace the great new fact that America is already a socialist country. They chortle that
America is just like France. Meacham and Thomas chide Sean Hannity for using socialism as a dirty word because it “seems strangely beside the point.” The pair is enthusiastic about our new American socialist society!
We are a European country and we like it, claim the Newsweek duo. Unfortunately, they seem to misunderstand so very much about what they speak.
One of the worst tactics that the morally bankrupt use to justify an argument is that of moral equivalence. This Newsweek article employs this strategy at nearly every turn. For instance, the piece chides Republicans for the excess of the Bush years as some sort of balm on our turn to socialism.
There it was, just before the commercial: the S word, a favorite among conservatives since John McCain began using it during the presidential campaign. (Remember Joe the Plumber? Sadly, so do we.) But it seems strangely beside the point. The U.S. government has already–under a conservative Republican administration–effectively nationalized the banking and mortgage industries…
…but it was, again, under a conservative GOP administration that we enacted the largest expansion of the welfare state in 30 years: prescription drugs for the elderly. People on the right and the left want government to invest in alternative energies in order to break our addiction to foreign oil. And it is unlikely that even the reddest of states will decline federal money for infrastructural improvements.
Of course, it was amusing for them to take a jab at Joe the Plumber and telling that his wild media ride made them “sad.” After all, his emergence as Obama’s foil was Obama’s worst foot-shooting episode of the campaign. It was where Obama admitted he was basically a Marxist in base political ideology. No wonder Thomas and Meacham hated Joe. He made their messiah look the fool.
But also notice how they use the Bush-did-it-too argument as if this somehow justifies a further tumble away from American principles and toward European soft communism? No, gentlemen, it was not OK that Bush nationalized banks and enlarged the welfare state. So it is not OK that we continue it.
Further more, to say that the States won’t refuse federal money for “infrastructural improvements” so this justifies more socialism is absurd. The two act as if the feds just hand out money for free and that the states aren’t obligated to supply money beforehand. This is clearly ignorant of the process. In fact, it is almost impossible to refuse the federal money because it is OUR money we’d all be refusing! The money does not belong to the federal government in the first place. Apparently Thomas and Meacham don’t understand this.
Then the pair advocate for resignation instead of a righting of the ship:
If we fail to acknowledge the reality of the growing role of government in the economy, insisting instead on fighting 21st-century wars with 20th-century terms and tactics, then we are doomed to a fractious and unedifying debate. The sooner we understand where we truly stand, the sooner we can think more clearly about how to use government in today’s world.
This is like a soldier throwing down his weapon and refusing to fight because he’s just going to get killed anyway! Give up the quest of returning our nation to its proper moorings, Newsweek? Why should we do this, merely because the socialists now have the upper hand?
Then the two resort to panic and fear to cajole the reader.
As the Obama administration presses the largest fiscal bill in American history, caps the salaries of executives at institutions receiving federal aid at $500,000 and introduces a new plan to rescue the banking industry, the unemployment rate is at its highest in 16 years. The Dow has slumped to 1998 levels, and last year mortgage foreclosures rose 81 percent.
So, MORE government, BIGGER government, is the solution? Where do these fools get this nonsense? This more-government plan has never once in the history of mankind ever worked. It has not worked in this country, either. Not in the 1930s under FDR, or the 1970s under Nixon, nor will it today.
Then the Newsweekers again use the Bush-did-it meme by expanding upon all the horrible fiscal policies that Bush indulged in. Yes, the pair is undoubtedly correct. Bush’s domestic agenda was his absolute worst feature in many, but not all, ways.
But, again, Bush’s failed fiscal mess is not a justification for Obama to make it worse by going deeper into this pit of anti-capitalist, unAmerican policies. Not only that, but Newsweek ‘s ignoring of the Democrat’s hands in this mess is a glaring and partisanly obvious omission.
Finally, the piece gets the analysis wrong on how we got here.
Now comes the reckoning. The answer may indeed be more government. In the short run, since neither consumers nor business is likely to do it, the government will have to stimulate the economy. And in the long run, an aging population and global warming and higher energy costs will demand more government taxing and spending. The catch is that more government intrusion in the economy will almost surely limit growth (as it has in Europe, where a big welfare state has caused chronic high unemployment). Growth has always been America’s birthright and saving grace.
The Obama administration is caught in a paradox. It must borrow and spend to fix a crisis created by too much borrowing and spending. Having pumped the economy up with a stimulus, the president will have to cut the growth of entitlement spending by holding down health care and retirement costs and still invest in ways that will produce long-term growth. Obama talks of the need for smart government. To get the balance between America and France right, the new president will need all the smarts he can summon.
All completely wrong. We got into this mess largely because of government meddling in the economy, and because of regulations, policies and agencies that have no business existing in a capitalist society in the first place.
Undoubtedly, we are in one of those cycles of the “destructive” phase of the “creative destruction” that IS capitalism, the only economic model that is best for man. But, it is called a cycle because it comes and goes, not because it is permanently affixed to the here and now. Our financial system allowed itself to get corrupt. It is now paying the price. But, government was the baneful influence that pushed our economic system over the edge. The way we all interact in economic endeavors will right itself without government help. It always does.
So, no Newsweek, more socialistic meddling is not the solution. And Meacham and Thomas are as wrong as wrong could be. We don’t need to shrug our shoulders and sigh in resignation because socialism is already here. We need to destroy it and return our system to its capitalist base.
Steve Maley
KnightsofMalta
America isn't like Europe
char (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 10:07PM EST (link)1. We work harder
2. We reproduce
3. We are religious
4. We give the provincials representation in a bicameral legislature
That’s off the top of my head, and yes I have been to Europe. I like the food, would hate to live there.
Living in Europe....
builder20 (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 4:22AM EST (link)I can vouch for it, it sucks. Yes you get some goodies when you are young, free school, health care, ect, BUT you live the life of an indentured servant. In the states Freedom rings, but here regulations scorn! A LOT of people here are okay with that, personally I miss the Freedom I had in Arizona. My greatest fear is that by the time I go home the home I knew will no longer exist. Replaced instead with a wannabe copy of Europe’s Socialistic dream.
that has pretty much already happened in some places
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 6:26AM EST (link)like New York and San Francisco, and it will be our future. I have little hope.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
They are wrong on energy
DerKrieger (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 10:12PM EST (link)They say “People on the right and the left want government to invest in alternative energies in order to break our addiction to foreign oil.”
But that is totally false. Last summer when gas was $4/gal 70%+ of the public wanted increased drilling for US oil and gas, not alternative boondoggles like ethanol. Americans are also sensible enough to demand nuclear, not wind and solar. What we want is for the government to get the Heck out of the way and let the market work.
And I agree 100% that Bush’s spending excesses are no excuse for doing more of the same and I would add that they are one of the main reasons he lost the support of many Conservatives.
They also say “And in the long run,… and global warming and higher energy costs will demand more government taxing and spending”
This is also false. Energy prices will go up only because of government intervention via restrictions on abundant and cheap coal, restrictions and regulations on nuclear, and subsidies on less efficient sources like solar and wind. Energy will be expensive BECAUSE of government, not in spite of it. And in the latest Rasmussen survey global warming ranked dead last on American’s list of concerns. Global warming is only a concern of Leftists.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
Global Warming - hoax of the century
Praying (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 11:14PM EST (link)The earth has been going through warming and cooling cycles since the beginning of it’s history 100s of millions of years ago. Without any help (or harm) from humans. Get over it, libs. Tell Al Gore and his inconvenient lie to take a hike. A good cold hike.
No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming
Another reason were not France
Illinicon (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 11:18PM EST (link)They have nuke energy.
My Potus shortlist
declared candidates:
1. Tim Pawlenty
2. Herman Cain
3. Gary Johnson
4. Rick Santorum
among declared and rumored candidates:
1. Rick Perry
2. Tim Pawlenty
3. Rudy Giuilani
4. Herman Cain
That's the only reason I want to be France
char (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 12:15AM EST (link)Whenever I talk to one of my left leaning friends, I tell them that I want the energy policy of France. Generally they nod and are surprised by how cosmopolitan I am until I tell them that France gets 80% of their power from nuclear power.
I’m surprised that China and India buy the safe 3rd generation Westinghouse nuclear reactors (AP1000) that nobody in America wants outside of the south.
Another way they are different is govt vs religion
bk (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 6:01AM EST (link)In France they seem to be secular without regard to religion – remember the no headscarves law or whatever that was?
In America being secular at the government level means being anti-Christian. If a school puts up a Christmas display that wrong, but if they force students to dress up for Islam Awareness Day that’s fine.
Invest in alternative energies in order to break our addiction to foreign oil?
olsmithie (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 12:05AM EST (link)You are dead on about drilling at home to break our dependence on foreign oil.
These fools are so ignorant they actually thing you can “legislate” advances in technology, advances that will have to happen to do it their way. Most are many years off in the future. Some technologies will never be cost effective.
They just continue on babbling like AlBore.
Ignorance is bliss, most of these morons have great big smiles on their faces.
Regards
I could be wrong
DerKrieger (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 10:26PM EST (link), it’s been known to happen, but I think this push for socialism will further divide left from right and super charge the push for states rights and federalism. http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/08/moving-to-reclaim-sovereignty/
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
Who in their right mind gave the keys to these folks...
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 10:53PM EST (link)Yep, America fell off the wagon, and the hangover’s gonna be tough to shake off.
(larger)
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 10:55PM EST (link)Try 3
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 10:58PM EST (link)Preview woulda been helpful. If a mod can do it, please kill last two. nt
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 11:09PM EST (link)6eorge....
speciallist (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 11:50PM EST (link)This software rules…construct diaries and comments…check pics and html then Cut/paste
and it’s free..
http://www.coffeecup.com/html-editor/download/
Thanks, $pecialist! An html editor, so clean and general...
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 12:13AM EST (link)I kinda feel dumb for not thinking to
Googlesearch for a tool like that myself. Thanks for the specific recommendation, I’ll go download it after I hit “Post”.WND
DerKrieger (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 10:55PM EST (link)This is the full article on 20 states moving to reclaim their sovereignty. Many motivated because of stimulus palooza.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=88218
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
I'd like to forward that article to the TN legislature
Praying (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 11:17PM EST (link)Tennessee is not listed in the article, but I sure would like to see that happen!
No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming
Do it!
DerKrieger (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 11:27PM EST (link)I wrote my AR legislators and forwarded him the Walter Williams article about OK from last summer.
I lived in Germantown,TN until Aug ’06.
http://townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWilliams/2008/07/16/oklahoma_rebellion
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
Funny
jfpurdue01 (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 11:40PM EST (link)I like how they repeated that the Bush administration was a “conservative” GOP administration. Since when has Bush been considered conservative (at least on fiscal issues)???
It's allllll
DerKrieger (Diary) Sunday, February 8th at 11:42PM EST (link)…part of the plan to discredit Conservatism. Any GOP failure is linked to a failure of Conservatism.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
Bush was "conservative" the same way that
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 6:38AM EST (link)Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and his father were conservative. That is, they weren’t democrats.
We have only had three conservative Presidents in one hundred years. Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, and Ronald Reagan.
and only one conservative speaker of the house, Newt Gingrich, and yet Conservatism gets blamed for the sorry state of affairs.
BUT! I actually think the authors are correct we are a socialist nation, there is no doubt about that, Not as socialist as some, but pretty far gone IMO.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Their point wasn't to
Warner Todd Huston (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 8:11AM EST (link)kyle8,
Their point wasn’t to warn us about socialism. But to tell us that its a GOOD thing we are!
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yeah I know
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 6:47PM EST (link)But they were still correct to call us socialist.
Nevertheless there is still some freedom left in the country, for now, but it’s going fast.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
This is the New Civil War
crux Monday, February 9th at 11:04AM EST (link)Oh the irony! Close to the 200 birthday of Lincoln, the president who saved the union, our current president will be the one who loses it. There is a grassroots movement to stem the tide of socialism, and it is not going to be pretty. States are already lining up to declare a fight with the federal branch.
States rights
izoneguy (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 11:18AM EST (link)http://stevescomments.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/lawmakers-in-20-states-move-to-reclaim-sovereignty/
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hcr2024p.htm
http://hawaiianconstitutionalconvention.com/
http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0246.htm
http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills091/bills/HR212.HTM
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HCR0006.html
http://axiomamuse.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/state-legislator-charles-key-wants-to-limit-federal-power/
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?year=2009&bill=4009
“What we are trying to do is to get the U.S. Congress out of the state’s business,” Oklahoma Republican state Sen. Randy Brogdon.
“Congress is completely out of line spending trillions of dollars over the last 10 years putting the nation into a debt crisis like we’ve never seen before,” Brogdon said, arguing that the Obama stimulus plan is the last straw taxing state patience in the brewing sovereignty dispute.
“This particular 111th Congress is the biggest bunch of over-reachers and underachievers we’ve ever had in Congress,” he said.
“A sixth-grader should realize you can’t borrow money to pay off your debt, and that is the Obama administration’s answer for a stimulus package,” he added.
The Ninth Amendment reads, “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”
The Tenth Amendment specifically provides, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Brogdon, the lead sponsor of the Oklahoma state senate version of the sovereignty bill, has been a strong opponent of extending the plan to build a four-football-fields-wide Trans-Texas Corridor parallel to Interstate-35 to Oklahoma.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
I agree Kyle
TxCon (Diary) Monday, February 9th at 11:30AM EST (link)I get sick up people saying Bush had a conservative administration. Bush was a big spender, who just happened to have some conservative beliefs. Plus, the GOP lost in 2006 and 2008 because they stopped being conservative. It’s no coincedence that the economy started to tank when the dems took over in 2007.