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		<title>By: NightTwister</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/10/25/enviros-drive-enviros-bats/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>NightTwister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve driven over &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamont_Pass_Wind_Farm&quot;&gt;Alamont Pass&lt;/a&gt; many times observing all the windmills sitting still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve driven over <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamont_Pass_Wind_Farm">Alamont Pass</a> many times observing all the windmills sitting still.</p>
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		<title>By: Cargosquid</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/10/25/enviros-drive-enviros-bats/#comment-1518</link>
		<dc:creator>Cargosquid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>watching the fight........


We have to put up with these watermelons here in Virginia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>watching the fight&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>We have to put up with these watermelons here in Virginia.</p>
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		<title>By: 1stRichard</title>
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		<dc:creator>1stRichard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another, can anyone explain how using twice the fuel is more efficient? Over in Europe they have cars running on turbo diesels for some time, over 80 plus miles per gallon. However, where I live we have the California clean-air regulations, those turbo diesels do not pass emissions yet, and prevent us from getting better miles per gallon, to about half. So how is using twice the fuel is more efficient? 

Furthermore more is the crap and tax bill will force your state to use the California clean-air regulations if not already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another, can anyone explain how using twice the fuel is more efficient? Over in Europe they have cars running on turbo diesels for some time, over 80 plus miles per gallon. However, where I live we have the California clean-air regulations, those turbo diesels do not pass emissions yet, and prevent us from getting better miles per gallon, to about half. So how is using twice the fuel is more efficient? </p>
<p>Furthermore more is the crap and tax bill will force your state to use the California clean-air regulations if not already.</p>
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		<title>By: Xasteius</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/10/25/enviros-drive-enviros-bats/#comment-1494</link>
		<dc:creator>Xasteius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Brits discovered turbines create &lt;a&gt;radar blind spots&lt;/a&gt; that hide aircraft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Brits discovered turbines create <a>radar blind spots</a> that hide aircraft.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/10/25/enviros-drive-enviros-bats/#comment-1493</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see it now, &quot;Global Stalling&quot;! OMG We are all gonna die!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see it now, &#8220;Global Stalling&#8221;! OMG We are all gonna die!</p>
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		<title>By: ss396</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/10/25/enviros-drive-enviros-bats/#comment-1492</link>
		<dc:creator>ss396</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of the energy calculations for the efficiency of wind-generated electricity extend to cover all the costs of raw materials extraction, smelting, refining, manufacturing, delivery, and erection of all the turbines and transmission delivery systems that do not now exist and must be fabricated / constructed.

The one that I am waiting for is the group of activists who finally start protesting how these wind farms are having a detrimental effect on the weather due to the interference of natural patterns, the impediment of wind patterns, and the leaching of energy from wide area and energetic weather fronts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of the energy calculations for the efficiency of wind-generated electricity extend to cover all the costs of raw materials extraction, smelting, refining, manufacturing, delivery, and erection of all the turbines and transmission delivery systems that do not now exist and must be fabricated / constructed.</p>
<p>The one that I am waiting for is the group of activists who finally start protesting how these wind farms are having a detrimental effect on the weather due to the interference of natural patterns, the impediment of wind patterns, and the leaching of energy from wide area and energetic weather fronts.</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nt</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/10/25/enviros-drive-enviros-bats/#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zero&#8482; Waste, the kind caused by foolish agendas like those of our President.  Hmmmnn...

&lt;img src=&quot;http://tlu51g.blu.livefilestore.com/y1ptv7pMzaa8OjUIXAr_8Hz2lZMDKrJb1jULD5Z6bJmaciwfv9iR0F7tNVa5LruvWsctFphQ1hgPv2K4511jY4CLA/WindPowerLines.jpg&quot; /&gt;


I&#039;ve always wondered why Wind Turbines are always pictured with aesthetically pleasing, single pole white supports, while other electrical
infrastructure is pictured as supported by unsightly, gray metallic towers.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.renewablechoice.com/assets/images/blog_images/transmission%20lines%20II.jpg&quot; /&gt;

Another hmmnn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zero&trade; Waste, the kind caused by foolish agendas like those of our President.  Hmmmnn&#8230;</p>
<p><img src="http://tlu51g.blu.livefilestore.com/y1ptv7pMzaa8OjUIXAr_8Hz2lZMDKrJb1jULD5Z6bJmaciwfv9iR0F7tNVa5LruvWsctFphQ1hgPv2K4511jY4CLA/WindPowerLines.jpg" /></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered why Wind Turbines are always pictured with aesthetically pleasing, single pole white supports, while other electrical<br />
infrastructure is pictured as supported by unsightly, gray metallic towers.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.renewablechoice.com/assets/images/blog_images/transmission%20lines%20II.jpg" /></p>
<p>Another hmmnn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DerKrieger</title>
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		<dc:creator>DerKrieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>detrimental policy pushed by the Left, extremist eco-policies won&#039;t get significant push back from the general public until it hits them where it hurts. This may mean high utility bills, brownouts, blackouts, and increasing unemployment. Most people live their lives in their own bubbles and it takes a significant prick to penetrate that bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>detrimental policy pushed by the Left, extremist eco-policies won&#8217;t get significant push back from the general public until it hits them where it hurts. This may mean high utility bills, brownouts, blackouts, and increasing unemployment. Most people live their lives in their own bubbles and it takes a significant prick to penetrate that bubble.</p>
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		<title>By: fisk2521</title>
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		<dc:creator>fisk2521</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To complicate matters,   apparently wind turbines have been determined to be the cause of human health problems as well.   According to a website called savewesternny.org, a Dr. Pierpoint (a woman with impressive medical credentials_ testified before the New York State Legislature Energy Committee awhile ago about what she termed “Wind Turbine Syndrome.  She states:

These are large, industrial installations.(not ‘farms’)  They make large-scale, industrial noise. “Jet engines” is the most common description I hear in surveying people—a jet engine that doesn’t go away and which you can’t get used to 

. Symptoms
1) Sleep problems: noise or physical sensations of pulsation or pressure make it hard to go to sleep and cause frequent awakening.
2) Headaches or migraines which are increased in frequency or severity.
3) Dizziness, unsteadiness, and nausea.
4) Exhaustion, anxiety, anger, irritability, and depression.
5) Problems with concentration and learning.
6) Tinnitus (ringing in the ears). 

On first glance I thought this was more nonsense of the environmental activism crowed, …but if you read it it kind of makes sense   http://www.savewesternny.org/docs/pierpont_testimony.html

In my area, western NY, the enviromentals are screaming about the ‘treated leachate’ from landfills…. and how the trash companies are polluting the lakes…. So far I have not seen any evidence of that, but never mind…. Do away with the landfills…. No incinerators, and incredibly the group leading the charge calls themselves “Zero Waste”.  

One can only speculate about just exactly what &quot;Zero Waste&quot; means.. They don’t have any answers as to what to do with the trash, and so far no one’s explained how we will live without generating trash…. I can only assume they want to do away with the sewage treatment plants as well, and I cannot conceive of what their solution to that might be.

Just more knee jerk reactions by activists with no ‘real’ solutions, just more rhetoric more government  and more control of everyone lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To complicate matters,   apparently wind turbines have been determined to be the cause of human health problems as well.   According to a website called savewesternny.org, a Dr. Pierpoint (a woman with impressive medical credentials_ testified before the New York State Legislature Energy Committee awhile ago about what she termed “Wind Turbine Syndrome.  She states:</p>
<p>These are large, industrial installations.(not ‘farms’)  They make large-scale, industrial noise. “Jet engines” is the most common description I hear in surveying people—a jet engine that doesn’t go away and which you can’t get used to </p>
<p>. Symptoms<br />
1) Sleep problems: noise or physical sensations of pulsation or pressure make it hard to go to sleep and cause frequent awakening.<br />
2) Headaches or migraines which are increased in frequency or severity.<br />
3) Dizziness, unsteadiness, and nausea.<br />
4) Exhaustion, anxiety, anger, irritability, and depression.<br />
5) Problems with concentration and learning.<br />
6) Tinnitus (ringing in the ears). </p>
<p>On first glance I thought this was more nonsense of the environmental activism crowed, …but if you read it it kind of makes sense   http://www.savewesternny.org/docs/pierpont_testimony.html</p>
<p>In my area, western NY, the enviromentals are screaming about the ‘treated leachate’ from landfills…. and how the trash companies are polluting the lakes…. So far I have not seen any evidence of that, but never mind…. Do away with the landfills…. No incinerators, and incredibly the group leading the charge calls themselves “Zero Waste”.  </p>
<p>One can only speculate about just exactly what &#8220;Zero Waste&#8221; means.. They don’t have any answers as to what to do with the trash, and so far no one’s explained how we will live without generating trash…. I can only assume they want to do away with the sewage treatment plants as well, and I cannot conceive of what their solution to that might be.</p>
<p>Just more knee jerk reactions by activists with no ‘real’ solutions, just more rhetoric more government  and more control of everyone lives.</p>
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		<title>By: bobojake</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobojake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the radio it was confirmed they are green on the outside but red like marxist-communists on the inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the radio it was confirmed they are green on the outside but red like marxist-communists on the inside.</p>
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		<title>By: makemyday</title>
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		<dc:creator>makemyday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote others &quot;Grab the popcorn&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote others &#8220;Grab the popcorn&#8221;</p>
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