There’s quite a remarkable story in today’s New Orleans Times-Picayune. I wish I could cut and paste it in its entirety.
It’s the story of two very different men that we chose to lead our country, and how, in the unlikely setting of New Orleans and the Mississippi Gulf Coast, we have a chance to compare and contrast their characters.
The world knows one as a blue-blooded faux Texan, bumbling idiot, spoiled child of privilege and draft dodger. The other is a compassionate man of the people who will soon join Mother Teresa, Albert Schweitzer and Nelson Mandela in the Pantheon of recipients of the Nobel Prize for Peace.
Amazing.
Say what you will about former President George W. Bush and his administration’s handling of Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath — the man knew how to put together a post-Katrina White House visit to New Orleans and the Gulf Coast.
They were exhaustive, exhausting, sunup-to-sundown, sometimes multiday and multistate affairs. And there were a lot of them: 13 in all to the New Orleans area in the three years after the storm. …
“He wanted to hear multiple voices from across the community on a one-on-one level,” recalled [retired Marine Gen. Douglas] O’Dell, who said Bush packed every crevice of his visit with interactions with people of every stripe. “He made unbelievable use of his time,” said O’Dell.[O'Dell served as the second coordinator of the Office of Gulf Coast Rebuilding under President Bush.] …
Thursday will mark the first presidential visit to New Orleans since Bush’s last, which he made just ahead of the third anniversary of Hurricane Katrina in August 2008, and, according to the latest word from the White House, Obama’s visit will include a town hall event at an as yet unspecified time and location, and a second unspecified event. …
“This is an iconic event — I don’t know what the hell they are thinking,” [Tulane University historian Lawrence] Powell said. “He shouldn’t come at all if he’s coming for a glorified layover.”
And then, the punch line:
“All presidents make calculations as to the value of their time,” O’Dell said. “This may be the (White House Chief of Staff) Rahm Emanuel treatment: ‘You didn’t vote for us, to hell with you guys.’ That’s how this White House views things.”
[emphasis added]
Update: A new T-P article details the wrangling of the LA Congressional delegation in trying to get the Nobel Prize-winning President to extend his visit beyond a closed townhall.
Obama’s visit to New Orleans is hemmed in by an engagement the same day in San Francisco. The San Francisco Chronicle reported that Obama is scheduled to be in San Francisco later in the day Thursday for a $500- to $1,000-a-person fundraiser at the St. Francis Hotel for the Democratic National Committee and Organizing for America.
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Come on, really!!
misterbill Saturday, October 10th at 9:20AM EST (link)Who would want to spend any time with him anyway, save a lickspit????
You wish you could pop up the entire article and I wish I could click on a 'recommend' for this diary.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 9:28AM EST (link)Wow.
If you have a digg account you can reco it like that.
TNJim (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 12:00PM EST (link)I just submitted it. Great piece, Vlad.
Steph C below said something about words and actions. This president is all about, and only about, words. Well, sir, actions speak louder, sometimes you’re deathly quiet (Afghanistan, for example) and sometimes your intentions are screams of irritation. This is just another town hall, probably to a hand-picked audience to push something the majority of the American people don’t want. Katrian might get mentioned in passing, but only to blame Bush (again).
When is this guy going to realize he’s president now and Bush isn’t?
TNJim, he thinks he is King now and doesn't have to...
penguin2 (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 12:12PM EST (link)realize anything. If one wants to know what a person looks like who is elitist and arrogant. he is a good example.
I’m waiting for the people to wake up and see the difference between the real person and a politician.
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I'm sort of not going to see that for awhile
Richard Mullins (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 12:16PM EST (link)So I guess that what’s going to happen. When you have a populous with a high amount of Demobots, it’s easy to see what happens.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
I added one more digg to the pile
Richard Mullins (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 12:13PM EST (link)I digg-ed it just a while back. You’ll notice that there is 2 diggs on this thread.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
My thoughts
dennism (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 9:28AM EST (link)He’s going to New Orleans for hope and change. And to reform the Mardi Gras crewes. They’re going to change the title of each crewe’s “king” to “czar” and then appoint Mr. Obama “Czar of Czars.”
Shortly thereafter, the ubicoitus New Orleans t-shirt “Show Me Your T**s” will be outlawed.
Next, Mr. Obama will be appointed head football coach at LSU and the Tigers will concede all their football games for the next 100 years.
I’m pretty sure about this.
Don't forget the King Cakes
RedBeard Saturday, October 10th at 10:09AM EST (link)New rules will state that the “baby” in each cake be the likeness of The One, from this day forward, forevermore.
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Heffalump Saturday, October 10th at 10:39AM EST (link)He’ll also apologize for all the games the Tigers won in the past because they were so mean and hateful toward the other teams
Don't forget the Saints
gator_hoo (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 12:03PM EST (link)Saints is a religious (even worse explicity Christian), and therefore divisive term. They should change the team name to the New Orleans SOROS – or “Somewhat Open to Religion Or Spirituality”
If they changed the name that way
Raven (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 7:30PM EST (link)Would they hire George as Manager? Or would he just join the Booster Club?
“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36
Ubicoitus?
civil truth (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 12:53PM EST (link)Typo? or snarky double entendre? If the latter, that was quite ingenious.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
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Hat tip to the great and powerful Vladimir
dennism (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 2:01PM EST (link)… as progenitor of the term “ubicoitus.”
I thought it was spelled "ubiquitious".
Steve Maley (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 3:58PM EST (link)“Ubicoitus” is a brown horse of another color.
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bzzzt.
blooch Monday, October 12th at 8:27AM EST (link)ubiquitous.
Ubiquitious plays for Tulane. Offense, Defense and Special Teams.
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
No, I meant "ubiquitious".
Steve Maley (Diary) Monday, October 12th at 1:01PM EST (link)Accent on the 3rd syllable.
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But Obama cares more.
Steph C (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 10:21AM EST (link)He said so, many times.
Words and actions…
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Steve Maley (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 10:49AM EST (link)…if they had an election, Bush vs Obama, today in Orleans Parish, Obama would win 80-20%.
Obama knows it, so he can get away with it.
Bush knew it, too, but he came anyway.
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Yeah, if that happened in Downtown Houston or South Houston
Richard Mullins (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 10:58AM EST (link)it would be the same way. Same with any area that has a high proportion of Demobots(I would say Obamabots, but this has been going on for years). Obama doesn’t seem to care about any disaster and sends out Biden instead. Of course if this was Chicago he would be up there in a minute.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
Guess who showed up after the Georgia Flood?
Obis_Sister (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 11:09AM EST (link)Obama doesn’t seem to care about any disaster and sends out Biden instead.
Biden was dispatched to view the Georgia flooding. He was in town less than half a day and to my knowledge was only on the ground in Cobb County long enough to make a lame speech. Douglas County was the hardest hit – but he didn’t bother to show his face just a few miles south.
Disgraceful.
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I flew to Atlanta to help my niece who was flooded out in Cobb county.
Common_Cents (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 11:52AM EST (link)She got ZERO help from FEMA except to enroll for food stamps!
You know who helped?
Neighbors
Private businesses
Churches
and random generous Individuals!
Publix grocery stores donated sandwiches to the neighborhood, a pizza place brought pizzas, and a church brought food for an entire week for all the residents in of the neighborhood.
First Baptist Church of Woodstock had a disaster relief trailer/volunteer crew. A teenage boy was hammering on glued down damaged wood flooring for over 6 hrs to remove it. No questions asked, no complaining. A solid impressive kid.
My niece put out a call on facebook and craigslist for help and construction professionals showed up to do work for free, total strangers.
I saw a couple helicopters do a fly over but it must have been the Governor as it was before Biden was in town.
This is why FEMA is pretty much a joke. It is totally unresponsive and incapable of delivering help immediately. FEMA showed up a couple days after for paperwork.
Post flood, it is critical to remove nearly everything out of your home and gut it immediately. Everyone had to have all the wet carpet, flooring, drywall, appliances, furniture ripped out within 24 hours or risk disastrous mold problems. This is why federal government is much of a failure and states/local should take over much of the budget and responsibility for better response.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
FEMA isn't a joke
mom2oneson (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 12:27PM EST (link)First of what was your niece expecting FEMA to do? If she called the # and an inspector/adjuster was sent out she could have called again and asked for another one if the first one declined approving her for money. You are viewing FEMA the wrong way – to help immediately. They staged medical teams to go into hopsitals and national guard to give security, water and MREs but it is NOT immediately. Eventually adjusters/inspectors show up to approve people for money but that is not immediately either. Why should people expect immediate or any help from the government? You wrote about the construction and clean up done by churches and citizens did you niece expect FEMA to do that?
Second they give food stamps out to zip codes when it’s a declared disaster.
Third FEMA never had a bad name until New Orleans. Doesn’t it strike anyone weird that FL has hurricanes for years and FEMA was never trashed like it was? Didn’t anyone think it was weird people in New Orleans expected the national guard to bring them formula and diapers and were bringing electronics with them insead of bottled water? Ivan was just a year before President Bush and Govenor Jeb Bush were both cheered when they visisted FL. It might have been more because they knew they were declaring it a disaster and view FEMA as a cash cow but they still cheered LOL.
New Orleans were making commotion about not being helped within a few days but what about Andrew? It took weeks to get to some parts of Andrew survivors. I’m sorry but hurricanes are warned about. If people choose not to prepare to the best of their ability there is nothing the national guard/FEMA can do. Any adult that doesn’t have the sense to store water food and some hygiene supplies is foolish. Those people should have never been in the condition they were in expecting the gov to rescue them and blaming the government for not doing what they should have been responsible for. I couldn’t believe the stories of children with no relative and no way to find the parents..how hard is it to write your kid’s social security number on them? These type of things have nothing to do with poverty or not it’s just a lack of responsibility. This was a predicted disaster. It really reminded me of a hostage situation where people have no warning instead of a predicted hurricane in the southeast during hurricane season.
We don't need no skinking FEMA down here
Richard Mullins (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 12:38PM EST (link)we do fine without it. It’s more a hindrance than a help. I guess you don’t seem to know that. Personally, if we want to change FEMA, why have Ed Emmitt(County Judge here in Harris County). The fact still remains that Obama doesn’t care about anything and neither does Biden.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
I've worked with FEMA, they are worse than a joke.
nessa (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 1:19PM EST (link)You are absolutely right about the utter and complete lack of personal responsibility from the citizens of NOLA, I’m not blaming FEMA for any of that. I watched the FEMA HQ in Baton Rouge stumble and bumble along for a couple days till we figured out how they functioned, or more accurately, failed to function and then, in typical Paratrooper fashion, stepped in and took what we wanted.
The FEMA HQ had established a Tactical Operations Center, I don’t know what they called it, but that’s what it was. To all appearances they had never established or worked out of one before. Not only did the left hand not know what the right hand was doing, people sitting on the floor of the TOC didn’t know what the person beside them was doing. In the military this is called stovepiping, each individual cell’s efforts only involve their own cell and the product goes straight up, like a stovepipe. Each cell’s efforts should spread across each of the operating systems. They had some rudimentary operating systems, Logistics for example. There was a group of women in one room who answered phone calls from volunteers, all day and all night. They would get calls from electric companies, truckers, people with boats, shower and latrine facilities, heavy equipment operators, lunch trucks with kitchens, an amazing array of people wanting to help and/or get on the FEMA money bandwagon. These women would answer the phone, jot down a name, phone number and list of equipment. for example, Joe Ragpicker has a trailer with 6 fan boats, they would then send Joe Ragpicker to one of several assembly areas to wait to be contacted and sent to where his boats were needed. Except the sticky notes they jotted the info down on never left their room. No one else knew what equipment was available or where it was. We were screaming and begging for boats and being told there were none, till we sent Paratroopers to the assembly areas and we started taking charge.
At one point I found a group of volunteers who had a work station on the floor of the TOC, they needed to know the current water levels across the city. They had reached the point of frustration where they had sent people in 4×4 trucks into NOLA to drive around and check the water levels, then drive back to Baton Rouge and report them. Two seats away on the floor of the TOC were some computer/techno geeks from one from one of the Universities, with satellite feeds and map printers. They were collecting data on the current water levels and had been for several days. They had maps of where the water was, they had projections of how fast it would recede, everything that the folks two chairs away needed but didn’t know.
Granted, as a HQ POG, I was intimately familiar with running a TOC, it was my job. But, FEMA, as an emergency response system should have known also. The folks there had no training, no one was in charge, no one had a clue. The big shots were all lined up trying to get some TV time with Jessie Jerkson outside the front door and the worker bees were just spinning their wheels trying to figure out what to do and how to do it. There is NO EXCUSE for their utter and complete lack of training in how to execute their mission.
Of course, they are a government agency, I should have expected exactly what I saw. I do now, the President could send the DMV as an emergency response coordination cell and get exactly the same results. No knowledge, no training, no clue, wow sounds like congress!
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Thanks for this, nessa.
Steve Maley (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 2:02PM EST (link)As an oil and gas producer with marine operations, my company is required to have an Oil Spill Response Plan. The guts of the plan is a military-style incident management system that is designed to be scalable, for a small incident up to a really big incident.
It’s hard for me to believe that we have an organization like FEMA that doesn’t have such expertise in-house, that they can roll out as needed & impose some semblance of order early-on. Not that the coordination is always FEMA’s job, but they could have the structure in place to assist state & local gov’ts who could use the management help.
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Exactly Vladimir
nessa (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 2:31PM EST (link)FEMA’s initial priority has to be Impose Order on the Chaos. Any time they get called and by the time they get called there is going to be a royal cluster f*^k. If they don’t show up with the ability to impose some semblance of order on the situation there is no reason to call them. By the time FEMA arrives, another well-wisher wanting to help is only going to be a hindrance, unless they have a system and a well rehearsed plan.
Coordination and planning is going to be the thing they are needed for the most. Set priorities, coordinate the efforts of the
State, Federal, Military, Nat’l Guard, civilian volunteers, etc. Everyone can’t act on their own priorities, there needs to be someone in charge. FEMA will be spending the most money and should bring the experts to the table, theoretically at least. Or put them under the Governor, or under State guidance, let him choose the priorities and FEMA can guide the execution.
Of course this is asking for actual skill and results. These two things are well outside the realm of a government agency. The only task a government agency can execute well is turning O2 into CO2, anything beyond that is hit or miss at best.
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Great rant Nessa.
UpLateAgain (Diary) Sunday, October 11th at 2:51AM EST (link)The funny thing is, this kind of incompetence really only flourishes at the Federal level. Every Podunk police and fire department in the country now does training in emergency planning and operations based on the Incident Command System… an outgrowth of 5 paragraph order planning modified to meet the specific needs of civil agencies.
The system is completely scalable from one-on-one encounters all the way up to major disasters, and the IC (Incident Commander) commands a staff (organized like a military command structure) to ensure coordination among intel, operations, logistics, communications, and payroll when the incident is large enough to justify it. Effectively he runs a TOC.
The system has been standardized and has been spreading across the country for roughly twenty years now, and I’ve seen off-duty, vacationing cops volunteer to help in disasters in completely different areas of the country from where they work, and fit in perfectly because ICS where they come from is identical to ICS where they volunteer.
Unfortunately, when FEMA steps in, they tend to supersede whoever has been in charge to that point, and apparently they, for some stupid reason, don’t train on and are not familiar with ICS. At least not by what you reported having seen at NOLA.
There is REALLY no excuse for that. If under-budgeted local police and fire can do it (and I have seen it done effectively – at the Loma Prieta Earthquake for example – and I’m sure ICS was used by NYPD and NYFD on 9-11), I see no reason why a massively funded agency like FEMA cannot.
I’ll no doubt have some FEMA agent will respond to this and tell me they do, in fact use that system…. but if that’s the case… where was it at Katrena?
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nessa (Diary) Sunday, October 11th at 10:34AM EST (link)They may have had one of the big wheels looking at it, but the folks who do the work weren’t. It sounds like a nice system, standardized across the country, if FEMA had never heard of it I wouldn’t be at all surprised. Not that I’m picking on them, the DMV, Social Security Office, HHS, any gov’t agency would be as incompetent.
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Just an on the ground observation
Common_Cents (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 2:59PM EST (link)Yes, it seems FEMA was unfairly sold as first responder in New Orleans by the media/left and politicized to nail Bush. Ask any average person who they think might be first help in a disaster and they are going to tell you FEMA. So FEMA has a expectation message problem right off the bat.
I am saying taxpayer money is better spent at state and local level for the immediate help that people really need when time is of the essence. There was absolutely none, zero, zip, nada from govt agencies at all except for the local police were good about patrolling the area and running off looters.
In a disaster, people need food, water, shelter, demolition of flooded material, or at least some knowledgeable people to send them in the right direction. People need to know what to do. Everyone had to figure it out for themselves and help each other. My niece used facebook and craigslist. Others called around for donations and help.
Filling out stacks of paperwork and online forms isn’t a big priority when you don’t have the basic stuff covered.
Yes, people need to think for themselves and prepare themselves. Less government, more self reliance will always work out better. My young niece learned a tough but valuable lesson. Fortunately, she is completing her teaching degree/internship so we’ll have one more real world person teaching our young ones.
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behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
Read a bit and see if your views change
SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 3:14PM EST (link)I’ve read a couple of books, like “The Great Deluge” by David Brinkley.
The picture that emerges is one of incompetence on the part of State, local and yes FEMA when pushed to the limits by a disaster that had been predicted but local authority failed to prepare for. Throw in some really evil, nasty, horrible, behavior from the permanent under class that populated the housing projects of New Orleans you had a mess that nothing short of full nationalization and militarization of the disaster from day one could have dealt with, Posse Comitatus be damned.
I do blame President Bush for being timid in a political sense for not realizing the extent of the disaster and the pure incompetence of NaGun and Governor Blanco and failing to step in earlier, but domestic policy was never the Bush White House priority and his VP was not exactly Mr. Warm and Fuzzy when it came to this sort of domestic issue.
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It had nothing to do with Bush's
Warrior (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 4:00PM EST (link)“timidity” or Cheney’s “warmth and fuzziness.”
It was a media hatchet job from beginning to end.
If FEMA had responded with NASA-like precision and only one person had died, Bush would have gotten blame rather than accolades.
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All well & good, if we lived in a theoretical world.
Steve Maley (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 4:14PM EST (link)But half the fatalities in Katrina were people 60+ years old. Telling them to be self-reliant & to use craigslist is not a plan.
And yes, all the large cities and the 6,000-some counties should have well-trained incident response teams. Most of them already do. The problem is the disaster of biblical proportions, beyond anyone’s ability to comprehend & plan for ahead of time.
What I’m saying is that there is a legitimate role to play for FEMA to have a standing incident management team to swoop in & facilitate the state, county & local response, and take over if the locals are in over their heads. Absent that, you inevitably end up with people winging it, and the most sophisticated management structure is people writing notes on post-its, as nessa described elsewhere on this thread.
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Vladimir
mom2oneson (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 4:56PM EST (link)That is exactly why I can’t stand the It’s God’s judgement stuff when people talk about disasters. Except for the few young males that refuse to follow safety precautions post storm (and there are always some I don’t know why!) it’s the vulnerable that are hit the hardest.
For anyone unable to care themself but still living outside a nursing home they should have had arrangements made BEFORE the storm. Hurricanes are predicted. Secondly what about the people around them? I don’t mean the government I mean their family and neighbors. It’s not that hard to make sure the lady next door has bottled water and make sure he has extra refills a week before the storm. Home health nurses work like dogs here doing 16 hours a day the week before a storm making sure their clients have what they need and get transported to a special needs shelter before the storm hits if necessary.
It takes very little to make sure the old ladies around you have bottled water, personal needs like refills, and some canned food. If they are in an area that has the potentional to flood obviously get out before the storm hits and take them to a shelter. The whole thing with Katrina seemed like people were demanding help after the storm hit when they should have done more before.
The nursing homes that didn’t care for their residents properly and prepared for this storm depsite adequate warning and allowed the residents to drown or die from neglect should be held accountable for their deaths.
No easy answers, m21s.
Steve Maley (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 5:53PM EST (link)We have an elderly, disabled almost-family member who could easily have been a statistic. His plan: a loaf of bread, a pound of baloney & a six pack of cokes. Back up plan: go next door to the split-level house.
He had not an ounce of flood insurance, because in 50+ years he had only seen water to the top of his curb once, and that was hurricane Betsy in the 60s.
My wife called him at 6 am Sunday morning and insisted he leave. He got out with 3 days’ change of clothes. His house took 8-1/2 feet of water.
For 50 years, the decision to take the risk & stay put paid off. Paid off, that is, until 2005.
Evacuating is not without its risks, especially for the old & infirm. Quite a few nursing home patients are too feeble to be transported without risk. Then there’s the terrible case of the bus fire after Hurricane Rita that ended the lives of a couple of dozen elderly evacuees from a Houston nursing home.
Hurricane evacuation decisions are always obvious after the fact, even better if the observer is 1,000 miles away to begin with. I blogged about it last year, here, here and here.
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FEMA is NOT a first responder. We still can't get it right!
Achance (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 12:34PM EST (link)Bill Clinton put FEMA out front of every thunderstorm for eight years because with the end of the Cold War he found all that beautiful, once black, FEMA money that he could pour into any district where a Democrat was running and call it a disaster. It became a joke in every state whenever they needed money or something went wrong, get a disaster declaration and the federal Masters of Disasters would pour money on it if they thought it would help a Democrat.
Money is all that FEMA does other than participation in Critical Incident Management Teams or Type I response teams and even these are resource management teams, not first reponders. The first responders are ALWAYS local law enforcement, then state resources, and then, and only if the State requests it, will their be federal resources, interstate compact resources, the military, and FEMA money.
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Exactly, and Bush had to beg
Warrior (Diary) Saturday, October 10th at 4:03PM EST (link)that idiot Blanco to declare a disaster so he could federalize the guard…
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Obama will be meeting with the ACORN and SEIU
Bill Saturday, October 10th at 11:43AM EST (link)people in New Orleans and the “town hall” will be at the ACORN/SEIU headquarters. This will not be announced ahead of time and when it is announced, it will be a “closed event” for ACORN/SEIU members only! Remember, he will ask their leaders and hear their advice before he makes policy on anything his administration does. Check the previous videos if you don’t believe! Checks are in the mail!!!!
Thank God! November 3, 2010. U.S. House, GOP 290, DEM 145; U.S. Senate, GOP 70, DEM 28, IND 2. Keep on praying!
"I went to NOLA and all I got was this t-shirt and a stupid scripted town hall meeting"
bk (Diary) Sunday, October 11th at 10:58AM EST (link)BTW you left out part of the Bush description: “The world knows one as a blue-blooded faux Texan, bumbling idiot, spoiled child of privilege and draft dodger.” He was also the one who with the sinister plot to blow up the levees in order to drown all the poor black people in the Ninth Ward, but he was so bumbling that he wiped out all the upper-middle class whites in Lakeview and all the lower-middle class white Chalmations.
A long time ago I was friends with the local (Austin) Red Cross director, and he told me that the bumbling TV Bush was not the same Bush when you are one one one with him, as he’d been to some disaster areas with him when he was governor.
FEMA was a tragic joke but no more screwed up than the rest of the cast of idiots:
- Ray “Evacuate the bus drivers!” Nagin
- Aaron “Evacuate the pump operators!” Broussard
- Kathleen “Uh er um hey Landrieu you’d better not get between me and a TV camera!” Blanco
- Mary “Hey Kathleen is that my brother on TV again?” Landrieu
- William “Gimme that Humvee so I can check my freezer!” Jefferson
- Sean “Anybody got another boat I can borrow?” Penn
- Geraldo “Let my people go!” Rivera
Reading the comments on the NOLA site...
Eddie S Sunday, October 11th at 9:32PM EST (link)I’m struck by the complete disconnect between those of differing politics these days. There are those who cannot comprehend of anything positive done by Bush, and those who cannot for Obama, and there seems to be zero common ground any more.
In many cases, each side presents completely contradictory “facts” consisting of completely different timelines, actions taken, and so forth.
Frankly, Bush got slammed for doing as much and more than any previous President during a natural disaster… and Obama promised everyone the moon including New Orleans, probably assuming that he could skate by without delivering anything, especially since a lot of his promises were contradictory.
Politics have become completely irrational lately… I mean, I think Obama is a lot more open to communist ideology than we’d like to see in a president, but I don’t think he’s some sort of manchurian candidate. On the other hand, he seems ill-equipped to control his own staff who seem to delight in running amok and trying to remake the executive branch whole cloth.
Meanwhile, his defenders jump on every criticism and try to raise it to the level of high treason, or even worse (gasp) racism! Plus they’d probably give Hitler and Stalin a better shot at a fair hearing than they would Bush, who they continue to bash at every opportunity. Refresh my memory, did we call the Clinton administration “criminal” every time we mentioned it? I mean, seriously, imagine if Bush had refused to send troops out and simply cruise-missiled baby bottle factories….
I just don’t know how we’re ever going to get to a place where civil discourse can happen. I suppose we need to get veterans back into the education field… give our children some balanced perspective again, since it seems they’re getting little but one-sided prosthelytizing.
Not even close Eddie.
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, October 11th at 10:32PM EST (link)As long as the US Department of Education exists, it won’t matter who stands in front of teachers.
We’ve gone too far for “civil discourse”, there is a war going on for the soul of the nation and because of people longing for “civil discourse” we’re losing it rapidly. Oh, and if you think politics is ugly now, read some history. The discourse has never been more civil, even during the Bush Administration.
I will agree that Obama’s not the Manchurian Candidate. That was Bush. He very successfully laid the groundwork for Obama to move in and absorb the economy into the Federal Government. Other than that, your street address is LaLa Land.