
Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) held a townhall meeting in what should be the friendly locale of blue-collar Reserve, LA on Thursday afternoon. She was non-committal on HR 3200, expressing her preference for the Wyden-Bennett bill that has been introduced but will go nowhere under the current leadership. Based on the following quote, it seems that even the sympathetic Times-Picayune had a hard time ignoring the Astroturfing on the pro-Obamacare side.
Most of the questions were overwhelmingly in opposition to the general concept of “Obamacare,” a pejorative label put on House Democratic plans for a health insurance overhaul. There were scores of other, less vocal attendees who sported stickers with messages like, “Health Care Now” and “We can’t wait.” Some were part of union organizing efforts. Others came with the encouragement of the White House’s national field operation.
Reserve, you may recall, was the site of another townhall a little over a month ago — the one where a citizen informed a stunned Kathleen Sebelius that “it will be a cold day in hell before [Obama] socializes my country.”
Word of Landrieu’s return to Reserve hit the press less than 24 hours before meeting time. Despite that, an overflow crowd of up to 650 filled the meeting hall, with fire department officials denying admittance to arrivals after 1:35 p.m. Brief amateur video of Thursday’s townhall here.
… Landrieu said she will not be influenced by the political calculus of being associated with President Barack Obama — who lost Louisiana badly and remains unpopular here — or her national party leaders.
“I have my eyes not on the president or the Congress. I have my eyes on the people,” said Landrieu, … “This is not about Democrats or Republicans or President Obama. This is about listening to the people I represent and seeing if we can find a way to better coverage.”…
The senator said: “Anything we do, we have to put people first and think about people before profits. But profits are a part of our system. This is a capitalist system.” That drew enthusiastic applause and some loud comments referring to the president as a “socialist.” …
Sen. Landrieu, who frames herself as a centrist, let her partisan stripes show a bit in response to a woman who attacked “government waste” and “deficit spending” and told the senator to fix it. The senator’s response: “The last time the federal budget was balanced was as Bill Clinton left office.” The boos — presumably directed at the Democratic former president — smothered the applause, if there was any. …
The loudest cheer of the afternoon came in response to the question about whether Landrieu would commit to vote against a bill “which does not specifically exclude taxpayer funded abortion.”
“I do not support taxpayer funded abortion. I do support people’s choice under the Constitution.” That prompted a reaction that drowned out the rest of the senator’s answer.
The next loudest cheers followed on a doctor’s statement about the need for “tort reform” and a questioner who said, “We need to stop President Obama from getting cap-and-trade.” The same man brandished a copy of the U.S. Constitution and said, “Where does the federal government get any right to stick its hands anywhere in the health care system.”
Tough crowd, eh, Mary?
Neil Stevens
Steve Maley
Daniel Horowitz
Jake Walker
if she listens to the people
bags64 Friday, August 28th at 6:43AM EST (link)and puts them first, she’ll not support Obamacare, or any of its derivatives.
time will tell.
A newspaper being honest...
RedBeard Friday, August 28th at 8:00AM EST (link)…is a refreshing change, even if it had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, to the truth.
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The rest of the article is full of jabs at the Org. Mob, though. nt
Steve Maley (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 8:20AM EST (link)The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.
Mary Landrieu was a big factor
Steph C (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 8:22AM EST (link)in my becoming more active in politics. I don’t live in LA but I have in laws down that way.
I think she has been walking a very fine line since Katrina, even if the MSM (my new name for them is: Mired in Sludge Media) whitewashed Democratic perfidy in the debacle.
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Astroturfing? Really? Sigh.
seandparnell (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 8:55AM EST (link)Sorry, but there’s absolutely nothing fake about citizens showing up at this or any other Town Hall meeting to voice their opinions, regardless of whether they were encouraged to attend by a labor union, the White House, FreedomWorks, Americans For Prosperity, AARP, the local right to life chapter, or anybody else.
The notion that there’s something fake and illegitimate about the people showing up to Town Hall meetings, on either side of the debate, is frankly noxious. Please give them the basic respect you want those who agree with you to receive.
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I think it depends ... We already know unions pay people to show up and protest.
Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 9:03AM EST (link)Otherwise I agree with you.
There’s absolutely nothing fake...
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 9:12AM EST (link)There’s not?
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
I fail to see why we need to pretend...
Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 9:13AM EST (link)…that the people who have been selected, assembled, programmed, outfitted, transported, delivered, provisioned, and displayed by the Democratic party in support of its agenda are as legitimate as the people who were sufficiently upset over health care rationing to grab some posterboard and a magic marker.
Put another way: they ARE fake and illegitimate. Worse, they’re line items.
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Moe is right - here are some real protesters
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 9:25AM EST (link)The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
55555! Exactly right, Moe!
ColdWarrior (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 11:28AM EST (link)n/t
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An interesting oppo research project
Achance (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 11:43AM EST (link)would be to identify the unionized public employees who are showing up at these events during normal working hours and auditing their time and attendance. In the Blue places I’d be willing to bet that the public employer is letting them off with pay, though they may wink and nod as they ask for a leave slip the leave will never be charged to the employee. Also, many unions have negotiated various union business leave schemes. As a general matter, this kind of leave can’t legally be used for politics but it is easy to look the other way.
No matter how they’re doing it, you can bet that the union participants are getting paid by their employer, not the union itself.
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Basic respect? Really? Sigh.
janis (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 9:41AM EST (link)So would that fall under the category of “comity” or “bipartisanship”? Neither may be appropriate for this situation technically, but both words end up describing the same end result as what you call for:
Clueless Fail.
Respect is supposed to be earned.
Steph C (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 9:59AM EST (link)“They” call us names for objecting to their plans and we’re supposed to respect them?
“They” bus in paid supporters and we’re supposed to respect them?
“They” one minute lie and tell us something is not in the bill and the next minute claim it hasn’t been written, yet, and we’re supposed to respect them?
Tell me just what there is to respect?
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They call them paid shills for a reason:
The_Gadfly (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 10:46AM EST (link)They are paid to show up and shill for a particular point of view regardless of whether or not they personally believe it. The people who have been showing up protesting against Obamacare with its implied Death Panels are taking time off from work to make their voices heard. They are the ones who have been slandered as shills and mobsters. We will call it astroturfing when it is astroturfing, because the truth is important.
If you expect civil discourse, the first action item you must complete is getting public apologies for every single person who has slandered honest citizens protesting against this abhorrent monstrosity.
And you sure don't see their IDs getting checked
bk (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 10:59AM EST (link)They might not even be from the same state as the Rep much less the same district.
On second thought, they might need to show their union cards to get in through the “early entry” back door.
Sean, I just have a question for you.
TNJim (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 11:46AM EST (link)How many pro-Obama care citizens were showing up before they were encouraged (and possibly paid) to attend by a labor union, the White House, FreedomWorks, Americans For Prosperity, AARP, the local right to life chapter, or anybody else? If they really believed in ObamaCare™ why weren’t they there at the town halls from the very beginning like the anti-ObamaCare™ people were? There were probably some, but they didn’t start showing up en masse until those organizations got involved.
I might be able to give them some respect if they had showed up on their own, like the anti-ObamaCare™ folks, but not now.
One thing for sure when it comes to Landrieu
bk (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 9:57AM EST (link)She will vote for whatever way increases her chances for reelection.
Fallback plan of course is to use ACORN in New Orleans to manufacture votes if all else fails.
Maybe Vlad can comment, but I can swear that when she first got elected my mom told me she saw a piece on the news where some ‘voter’ was pissed off. She was to be paid $25 for voting for Landrieu and she voted for her three times but only got $25 instead of $75.
W/Mass Town Hall Meetings
1stRichard (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 10:35AM EST (link)Without our reps as they refuse to attend so we are having them anyway! Yes there is a revolt go on in W/Mass!
Westmister town hall meeting
The consensus was unanimous in opposition to the health care bill as proposed by the senate and the house. Issues of constitutionality of the bill were discussed. Issues of dissatisfaction with both parties were brought up (by members of both parties).
Everyone in attendance expressed anger over our representatives lack of concern regarding our opinions and our wishes. Every person in attendance knows that Olver is going to vote for the bill despite any amount of pressure from his constituency.
Town Hall meeting in South Deerfield
Aug 28 Fri 6:00 PM Location
Mt Sugarloaf Park pavilion rte 116
South Deerfield, MA 01373
Town hall meeting in Ware, Genville park
Aug 29 Sat 6:00 PM Location
grenville park Church St
Ware, MA 01082
Town Hall meeting in Pittsfield
Sep 2Wed 7:00 PM Location
American legion
main st
Pittsfield, MA 01201
Town Hall meeting in Greenfield
Sep 3 Thu 7:00 PM Location
The greenfield grange
401 Chapman St
Greenfield, MA 01301
Town Hall meeting in Orange
Sep 4 Fri 7:00 PM Location
American Legion
40 Daniel Shays Highway
Orange, MA 01364
Landrieu´s reelection plans
Castor (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 10:53AM EST (link)She doesn´t come up for reelection until 2014.That´s a long time to go.
Nevertheless, One only has to look at Harry Reid´s las reelection and see his poll numbers now.This should give Landrieu room to pause and think .