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		<title>By: icbm</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/01/18/wind-energy-how-con-veeen-ient/#comment-303</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can see why some would find them pleasing, but i consider them a blight wind unless there are already other such constructions near them, or unless the land isn&#039;t much to look at anyway.

this is why there was a major popular movement against wind power in germany not long ago: they didn&#039;t want their countryside ruined.

obviously, we have more space than germany and can tolerate more giant constructions on it.  you&#039;d need to put up a lot of wind turbines before south dakota filled up.  

so there&#039;s room for wind power, but i don&#039;t want them dotting all of the magnificent wildlands we have, whether on the plains, desert, or in the mountains.

but i imagine you don&#039;t want them everywhere, either.  some people speak of them as if they did want them in all places, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can see why some would find them pleasing, but i consider them a blight wind unless there are already other such constructions near them, or unless the land isn&#8217;t much to look at anyway.</p>
<p>this is why there was a major popular movement against wind power in germany not long ago: they didn&#8217;t want their countryside ruined.</p>
<p>obviously, we have more space than germany and can tolerate more giant constructions on it.  you&#8217;d need to put up a lot of wind turbines before south dakota filled up.  </p>
<p>so there&#8217;s room for wind power, but i don&#8217;t want them dotting all of the magnificent wildlands we have, whether on the plains, desert, or in the mountains.</p>
<p>but i imagine you don&#8217;t want them everywhere, either.  some people speak of them as if they did want them in all places, though.</p>
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		<title>By: icbm</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/01/18/wind-energy-how-con-veeen-ient/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>icbm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: itrytobenice</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/01/18/wind-energy-how-con-veeen-ient/#comment-301</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the best way to generate electricity if you don&#039;t want all the horrible CO2 emitted into the atmosphere. 

http://www.physorg.com/news145561984.html

Underground nuclear power plants no bigger than a hot tub may soon provide electricity for communities around the world. Measuring about 1.5 meters across, the mini reactors can each power about 20,000 homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the best way to generate electricity if you don&#8217;t want all the horrible CO2 emitted into the atmosphere. </p>
<p>http://www.physorg.com/news145561984.html</p>
<p>Underground nuclear power plants no bigger than a hot tub may soon provide electricity for communities around the world. Measuring about 1.5 meters across, the mini reactors can each power about 20,000 homes.</p>
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		<title>By: 10ksnooker</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At what costs? Wind is not a cost effective electric generator, once you consider costs. I mean all costs, like the construction and installation of the wind generators, once factored in, they wind generators will never recover the costs of building and installing them.

How do you know? If windmills were cost effective, we would already have them everywhere, now wouldn&#039;t we? And T Boone would be much wealthier than he is because of it.

Like with the cause of the housing meltdown, we know it is a Democrat scandal, Democrats who caused it, because if it were Republicans all we would be hearing on the news is the gory details of the Republican scandal.

Some things are simple, if you just think about it.

Windmills are for pumping water in remote locations, but for electricity, build nuclear power generation plants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what costs? Wind is not a cost effective electric generator, once you consider costs. I mean all costs, like the construction and installation of the wind generators, once factored in, they wind generators will never recover the costs of building and installing them.</p>
<p>How do you know? If windmills were cost effective, we would already have them everywhere, now wouldn&#8217;t we? And T Boone would be much wealthier than he is because of it.</p>
<p>Like with the cause of the housing meltdown, we know it is a Democrat scandal, Democrats who caused it, because if it were Republicans all we would be hearing on the news is the gory details of the Republican scandal.</p>
<p>Some things are simple, if you just think about it.</p>
<p>Windmills are for pumping water in remote locations, but for electricity, build nuclear power generation plants.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think they&#039;re &lt;s&gt;kinda purty&lt;/s&gt; aesthetically pleasing...

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.mms.gov/offshore/Assets/Photos/InspectWindFarm400.jpg&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think they&#8217;re <s>kinda purty</s> aesthetically pleasing&#8230;</p>
<p><img src="http://www.mms.gov/offshore/Assets/Photos/InspectWindFarm400.jpg"/></p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Last month, the chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, James Oberstar (D., Minn.), asked the Coast Guard to wait 60 days before making a final recommendation to the U.S. Interior Department&#039;s Minerals Management Service on how to handle potential safety issues associated with the wind farm. ...

The wind farm&#039;s supporters have accused him of attempting to derail the project at the eleventh hour, and some have suggested he is acting at the behest of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D., Mass.). Sen. Kennedy, whose family compound is in Hyannis Port, Mass., has long opposed the project.

A spokeswoman for Rep. Oberstar said his request to the Coast Guard reflects his desire for &quot;a fair and open process&quot; transparent to the public, not any effort to help Sen. Kennedy.

A spokeswoman for Sen. Kennedy said the senator&#039;s aides have spoken to Rep. Oberstar&#039;s staff about Cape Wind, but neither the senator nor his aides asked Rep. Oberstar to weigh in with the Coast Guard in this instance. She added that the senator&#039;s objections to the project are &quot;based on safety, environmental, fishing, economic and public interest issues&quot; -- not the project&#039;s potential impact on the view from his home.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah. Whatever. But I&#039;m fairly sure that when the guy that contrls the Coast Guard&#039;s budget comes asking questions, they&#039;ll be able to find something to object to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Last month, the chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, James Oberstar (D., Minn.), asked the Coast Guard to wait 60 days before making a final recommendation to the U.S. Interior Department&#8217;s Minerals Management Service on how to handle potential safety issues associated with the wind farm. &#8230;</p>
<p>The wind farm&#8217;s supporters have accused him of attempting to derail the project at the eleventh hour, and some have suggested he is acting at the behest of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D., Mass.). Sen. Kennedy, whose family compound is in Hyannis Port, Mass., has long opposed the project.</p>
<p>A spokeswoman for Rep. Oberstar said his request to the Coast Guard reflects his desire for &#8220;a fair and open process&#8221; transparent to the public, not any effort to help Sen. Kennedy.</p>
<p>A spokeswoman for Sen. Kennedy said the senator&#8217;s aides have spoken to Rep. Oberstar&#8217;s staff about Cape Wind, but neither the senator nor his aides asked Rep. Oberstar to weigh in with the Coast Guard in this instance. She added that the senator&#8217;s objections to the project are &#8220;based on safety, environmental, fishing, economic and public interest issues&#8221; &#8212; not the project&#8217;s potential impact on the view from his home.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah. Whatever. But I&#8217;m fairly sure that when the guy that contrls the Coast Guard&#8217;s budget comes asking questions, they&#8217;ll be able to find something to object to.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/01/18/wind-energy-how-con-veeen-ient/#comment-296</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Show the blowhards that want the clean energy the most that it is available in there own back yard. Have you ever seen a 165 ft tall wind turbine? Have you been by one when they are running?
I have and thank god I live in the white area. Let the tree-huggers in CA attach propellers to the giant redwoods so they can have enough light to see themselves at night while the sound of the prop wash lulls them to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show the blowhards that want the clean energy the most that it is available in there own back yard. Have you ever seen a 165 ft tall wind turbine? Have you been by one when they are running?<br />
I have and thank god I live in the white area. Let the tree-huggers in CA attach propellers to the giant redwoods so they can have enough light to see themselves at night while the sound of the prop wash lulls them to sleep.</p>
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