Explosives and Rocket-Making: 1960 and Today


Autumn 1960

My 15-year-old friends and I were deeply into rocket-making and explosives. Girls were much more complicated, but very interesting as well.

We experimented (with rockets) daily — before, during, and after school and on the weekends.

Most experiments were duds. But my friend Herb and I made some breakthroughs.

Breakthrough #1

The first breakthrough was to discover that a very powerful rocket fuel could be made by adding certain light medal powders to our gunpowder mixture. From this point on, we could shoot our homemade rockets hundreds of feet into the air.

Where did we get our chemicals? Five places, principally:

1) pharmacies

2) doctors and dentists offices (we just asked)

3) factories where our dads worked

4) the high school chemical room (yeah, we were little thieves)

5) the Stansi Scientific Company of Chicago (I posed as a mail-order PhD)

Breakthrough #2

Now that we had mastered basic rocket science, our goals became (a) to aim our rockets, and (b) to tip our rockets with explosives. The Soviets, after all, weren’t shy about all this.

The aiming part didn’t require a breakthrough. Just some fiddling with with fins and exhaust apertures.

The breakthrough came in the area of contact explosives — explosives that go boom on mere contact.

Herb and I pored over chemistry texts at the local library (funded by Andrew Carnegie) and learned the chemical structures and recipes for various contact explosives.

We made, for example, a certain harmless purple liquid and drenched a piece of notebook paper in it. We placed a piece of juicy candy on the paper and ever so gently fanned it dry. Presently, a large fly buzzed down to snack on the candy. BOOM!

Truth is, I should not be writing this. I should have died in the Fall of 1960. It is only by the Grace of God that I survived, and others around me survived, that time period.

Some other guys I knew weren’t so lucky. They blew off hands or parts of hands.

Parting Shot

I have to wonder about the Detroit underwear bomber. Here’s why.

A guy with my knowledge could get past airport security carrying what would appear to be a box of cereal and a plastic bag full of powdered milk.

And I guarantee you the consequences would be devastating.

Is al qaeda that stupid?



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Is AlQueda that stupid?

geotex Tuesday, March 16th at 1:14PM EST (link)

You betcha they are. When all your training is designed to prepare yourself to go out and blow your way into “heaven”, you don’t need skills, just some one to strap some dynamite to you and press the button when you get close to the target.

I did same as you, but in the 50′s. All compliments of a “deluxe” chemical set easily bought at a toy store, and fill-ins from the local pharmacy.

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Interesting.

Viet71 (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 1:42PM EST (link)

Thanks!

 

PS

Viet71 (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 2:40PM EST (link)

Whenever I go to a pharmacy today, I check out what chemicals are available.

I could cook up a few recipes, but the days of easy picken’s are long since gone.

 
 

I lived "October Skies" too, and today would probably be serving life

Achance (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 1:39PM EST (link)

without parole. We, too, quickly discovered the effect of “light metals” and tweaks to the basic gunpowder formula. And turning those little cotton balls, the ones about an eighth of an inch in diameter, into nitrocellulose balls and scattering them around was always good fun.

Yeah, I’d just walk into the drug store and order nitric, sulfuric, or hydrocloric acid or potassium nitrate or chlorate and powdered magnesium. The guy at the electronics repair shop would sell me anything I needed to ignite bombs or rockets, guess you can still get most of that stuff at Radio Shack. And there was always Edmunds Scientific and places like that and the Army-Navy store had real military surplus. I bought my first non-.22 rifle there when I was about 12; just walked in, plunked down my money, $12, IIRC, and walked out with a military surplus British Endfield .303.

In Vino Veritas

Yep.

Viet71 (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 1:48PM EST (link)

Powdered magnesium did the trick. Powdered aluminum was not quite as good.

I played around with powdered zinc, but never got very good results.

 

Even today

Viet71 (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 2:05PM EST (link)

it is possible to buy ONLINE such items as

– potassium chlorate and perchlorate,

– sodium chlorate and perchlorate,

– powdered magnesium,

– and other such goodies.

I don’t think the acids can be shipped through the mail.

BTW, I’ve still got a piece of a beaker buried in my right palm.

Amazingly, I emerged unscathed other than having been burned

Achance (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 2:11PM EST (link)

several times. I got a call at work a few years back from a neighbor telling me there’d been an explosion at my house with a “mushroom cloud.” Well, even I never built a nuke. Youngest stepson, who knew NOTHING about chemistry or explosives but did know that my black powder supply was good for making a bang. He and his buddy fill an empty Pepsi can with black powder, that’s about the same amount you’d use to fire a 12# Napoleon cannon, and set it off, I still don’t know how they fused it, and it made one Helluva bang and lots smoke but sent the buddy to the ER with a nasty gash from aluminum schrapnel. Some things don’t change! Boys will be boys.

In Vino Veritas

Funny story.

Viet71 (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 2:21PM EST (link)

I got burned too — by explosive fire and by acid. Never deterred me.

Too bad kids today are not free to experiment as we were. It was dangerous, but life doesn’t come with a safety certificate.

 
 
 
 

Potassium Nitrate is great for ionization energy

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 3:29PM EST (link)

Up the sulfur if you want more flame.

God I miss being 12, old enough to get into trouble, young enough to get out of it.

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Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Right on all counts.

Viet71 (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 3:57PM EST (link)

My favorite oxidizer became potassium chlorate, though. Just barely stable. Lots of oxidizing power.

Thanks, J.

Viet71, spring has finally hit Michigan

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 4:54PM EST (link)

and your diary makes me want to relive “the good old days” and take the rest of the week off

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Do it.

Viet71 (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 5:01PM EST (link)
 
 
 

Just think....

Cargosquid (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 6:00PM EST (link)

They used to sell all that stuff in the “toy” chemistry sets back then.

I blew up my bathroom by accident. I don’t even know what I was mixing and heating…..

…..good times…………

Hey, Cargo

Viet71 (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 6:08PM EST (link)

Wish I knew you back then.

Thanks. Sorry for your bathroom.

 
 

Lucky to be here also ...

oblio Tuesday, March 16th at 6:51PM EST (link)

Messing with potassium chlorate and various adulterants making smoke bombs and homemade canons. Very lucky that a bad load only flamed my face out the touchhole of a canon rather than going boom. This is where I learned that chlorate and sugar (IIRC) is unstable when being tamped down. Of course we had red phosphorus and who knows what else mixed with it ….

We would get the chemicals from Jr. High lab, taped the room door bolt open (it was the 70′s guess who taught us that :) ) and had a priori removed the hinge from the locked lab supply cabinets so we could get the good after we ‘broke in’ during lunch.

To be at that too old/too young age again ….

Hinge *pins* and *goods* ...

oblio Tuesday, March 16th at 6:54PM EST (link)

Too excited re-living my wild youth to proofread :)

Hey, Oblio, I shouldn't say say this

Viet71 (Diary) Tuesday, March 16th at 7:12PM EST (link)

but mixing red phosphorus and potassium chlorate is VERY DANGEROUS.

But, VERY DANGEROUS is what made life worth living!

Achance (Diary) Wednesday, March 17th at 12:14AM EST (link)

If I’d grown up under the laws and rules my kid and stepkids have, I’d have never gotten out of jail or I’d be dumb, dependent, and an Obama voter.

In Vino Veritas

So right on, Achance.

Viet71 (Diary) Wednesday, March 17th at 12:23AM EST (link)

You are so wise.

 

It definitely made the average person more resilient

JSobieski (Diary) Wednesday, March 17th at 1:16AM EST (link)

In the post-modern wussified world, many “educated men” can do about1 thing well, and are otherwise generally incompetent.

My father, in contrast, could build a house from the ground up, fix a car with duct tape and WD40, and finish off the day by getting into a heated political argument with a 60s weenie.

I feel pretty weak compared to the old man, but the kids that I see for the most part make me feel like superman.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Wow.

Viet71 (Diary) Wednesday, March 17th at 2:53AM EST (link)

Just wow.

 

It's what I like most about Alaska;

Achance (Diary) Wednesday, March 17th at 4:47AM EST (link)

unless you have a totally urban existence here, you actually have to know how to do stuff. I’m not a good mechanic but I can keep my boat and cars running no matter what. I’m not a good carpenter, but I can fix my house well enogh to get by. I’m not a good hunter or fisherman, but I can keep meat in my freezer. I know what the weather is going to be by looking out the Accuweather Window. I really don’t need all that crap to help me get through the day; I can make it on my own.

In Vino Veritas

Alaska

Viet71 (Diary) Wednesday, March 17th at 5:55AM EST (link)

One of my great regrets is that upon getting back from Viet Nam in September 1972, I dd not go to Alaska. I needed to hide out.

In a way, I’m still hiding out.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Didn't manufacture any rockets

hickorystick (Diary) Wednesday, March 17th at 2:02AM EST (link)

but your making me realize how many the explosives I grew up around.. An older kid would bring railroad caps home. We’d drop the largest rocks we could lift onto them. Pretty hard to set off, but what a h*ll of a sound when they did. Dumb, dumb kids.

Rocket-Macking Was Fun.

Viet71 (Diary) Wednesday, March 17th at 3:44AM EST (link)

It led to electrical engineering, law, language school

I was impressed

hickorystick (Diary) Wednesday, March 17th at 11:32AM EST (link)

with all the technical stuff you learned making the rockets. I didn’t mean it was for dumb kids, I meant it was more dangerous than you probably realized. I was thinking more about watching my cousin making a pipe bomb ot of a 5″ nipple of galvanized pipe, and powder he pulled out of a skyrocket plus who knows what else. He was a smart kid. He was going to Lakeside High School at the same time as Bill Gates. I’m just saying.

 
 
 

Viet71, you are rapidly becoming

conservative_faction Wednesday, March 17th at 11:26AM EST (link)

my favorite diarist here.

And would you agree that Robert Brent’s, “The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments”, is just one of the best books that a 12 year old kid could get his hands on, like ever? Man, that was some great stuff!

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