What’s more sickening than bringing assault charges against the Seals?


I mean, could there be anything worse?

How about identifying them publicly. By name.

It wasn’t enough that Seal team members who captured Ahmed Hashim Abed, the instigator of the massacre at Fallujah bridge, were brought up on charges of “dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official statement, and assault.” and an “additional charge of impediment of an investigation.”

They had to be publicly identified, by name and rate?

To refresh our memories;

United States Central Command declined to discuss the detainee, but a legal source told FoxNews.com that the detainee was turned over to Iraqi authorities, to whom he made the abuse complaints. He was then returned to American custody. The SEAL leader reported the charge up the chain of command, and an investigation ensued.

One lawyer for a defendant;

Neal Puckett, an attorney representing [a Seal team member involved], told Fox News the SEALs are being charged for allegedly giving the detainee a “punch in the gut.”

“I don’t know how they’re going to bring this detainee to the United States and give us our constitutional right to confrontation in the courtroom,” Puckett said. “But again, we have terrorists getting their constitutional rights in New York City, but I suspect that they’re going to deny these SEALs their right to confrontation in a military courtroom in Virginia.”

Ok. So charges are filed, the team members involved declined NJP and opted instead for Court Martial. Did this anger someone somewhere enough that identifying them to the world was necessary?

Was it not enough that the Seals routinely put their own lives in danger, their families now need to be needlessly put at risk as well?

Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault charges and have retained lawyers.

I can think of nothing more demoralizing and dangerous than political idiocy against members of our armed forces.

How many times can anyone recall seeing the names of the Seal team members who who saved the life of Maersk Alabama skipper Richard Phillips lauded by name?

None. Nothing beyond the fact they may have been members of Seal Team 6.

We now see that no good deed goes unpunished with the present administration, be it CIA, or US military.

And Obama claims he can keep us safe?

If that’s not a load of cr** I don’t know what is.

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I don't think there is ANYTHING worse then....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, November 27th at 10:34PM EST (link)

bringing assault charges against MEN who have worked HARDER then MOST to gain the title of Seal to have charges brought against an ANIMAL who would cut off the heads of those who will sit in judgment of those Seals.

Like the Pendleton Marines if they get a donation page going to help these FINE UPSTANDING Americans to fight these pathetic charges WE will give them the money they need!

AMEN JADED - this is of a sort that I call: expostfactObamalism, which I will be writing a column about in 72 hours

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:15PM EST (link)

that also addresses the KSM trial

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America has turned upside down...

LaborUnionReport (Diary) Friday, November 27th at 11:40PM EST (link)

First, conferring consitutional rights to terrorists…who may be set free.

And, now, trying the men who defend us and our constitution.

Pathetic.

“I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes.” Thomas Paine December 23, 1776

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I would like to say I am stunned, but..

ladyimpactohio (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 1:50AM EST (link)

frankly nothing this Administration does stuns me anymore. The chutzpah and audacity of the man in the Oval Office and his minions know no bounds. The denigration of our military along with the total lack of judgment of our so-called Commander in Chief in order to advance his agenda, whatever it may be, is disgusting and reprehensible.

We the people tell government what to do, it does not tell us.–Ronald Reagan in his farewell speech

 

I found something worse.

Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 6:15AM EST (link)

Remember the game show ‘Name That Tune’ and how few notes people needed to get the name of a song ?

We’re now at the point that we have to say “The current administration can incite an uprising in one sentence.”

From The Wall Street Journal:

http://mobile2.wsj.com/device/article.php?CALL_URL=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704013004574519253095440312.html?

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed “great regret” in August that the U.S. is not a signatory to the International Criminal Court (ICC). This has fueled speculation that the Obama administration may reverse another Bush policy and sign up for what could lead to the trial of Americans for war crimes in The Hague.

The ICC’s chief prosecutor, though, has no intention of waiting for Washington to submit to the court’s authority. Luis Moreno Ocampo says he already has jurisdiction—at least with respect to Afghanistan.

Because Kabul in 2003 ratified the Rome Statute—the ICC’s founding treaty—all soldiers on Afghan territory, even those from nontreaty countries, fall under the ICC’s oversight, Mr. Ocampo told me. And the chief prosecutor says he is already conducting a “preliminary examination” into whether NATO troops, including American soldiers, fighting the Taliban may have to be put in the dock.

—– —– —– —– —–

So….. What are y’all gonna do today ?

I’m leaving the house in a few minutes for ‘Sunrise at the range’ – a.k.a. ‘A de-stressing morning workout’.

After that, I’m going to my fav ‘toy store’ and buy a few things, maybe even another ‘room full’ of that quite interesting combined chemistry/physics experiment using various sizes of brass and lead plus added ‘propellant’.

But hey, none of this trivial nonsense about American sovereignty and law matters to most people, because there’s a sale on flat panel TV’s at the mall.

 

Over and above everything else,

RedInABleuState (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 8:38PM EST (link)

it is this “stuff” that bothers me the most. Destroy our economy. Destroy our national treasures. Destroy our system of government. But don’t mess with our military.

This administration seems intent on destroying the morale of honorable men and women who stand on a very dangerous wall for all of us. After all the military does for us, I’d prefer they just say thank you and leave it at that.

I know that many in the military serve the Commander in Chief of this great country, regardless of who is sitting in that position. But I hope they know that this Administration and their reckless policies do not reflect a grateful and appreciative citizenry.

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. — Edmund Burke

It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds. — Samuel Adams

 

I don't believe

montanan (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 9:20PM EST (link)

your question of ” is there anything worse…” really matters. What really matters here is the question “is there anything more stupid?” Honestly, this administration wants to declare war on the best trained, best equipped, strongest, fastest, smartest soldiers ever produced by any nation at any time in history, and they expect these men to just stand and take it??? Yeah, I don’t think so. The prosecution is going to need every scrap of luck they can get their hands on in order to survive this.

 

Worse? How About Standing Up In Front OF TV at Westpoint...

rcov092 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:00PM EST (link)

to show whata sage you are to have wasted many weeks and several Young American soldiers lives to make a decision in a manner insured t embolden America’s enemies. They not only think we are weak, now they are sure of it.

“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”

 

Be carefull with this story

Michael M. Keohane (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 3:32PM EST (link)

I have read many versions of this incident on various blogs.

As I served nine years in the Infantry, leaving the service as a S/Sgt, I have attended many classes regarding the treatment of prisoners. In fact, as I possessed an Instructor’s MOS skill digit, I actually taught classes on the subject.

Furthermore, after leaving the service, I worked for fourteen years as a veterans counselor before becoming an administrative law judge. As a veterans counselor, I represented more than 1,100 individuals with “Bad Paper” discharges before the service review boards.

I believe that my knowledge of the UCMJ and service regulations is better than that of the average attorney or serviceman.

From my reading, it appears that, after the prisoner was captured and removed to a safe location, the unresisting prisoner was struck in the face by a SEAL Petty Officer (grade E5). None of the stories gave any reason for the Petty Officer’s action and most agreed that the assault was unprevoked.

There can be no justification for the unprevoked assault on an unresisting prisoner by a private or ordinary seaman. For a member of an elite unit and a long service non-commissioned officer to commit such an act is unacceptable behavior.

In spite of his actions, the Petty Officer and the other Petty Officers who engaged in a “cover-up,” were offered NJP. Contrary to what some bloggers have posted, including one who claims to have been a JAG lawyer, an offer of NJP was made in their best interests and in the best interests of the Navy. The matter would have been settled and interested parties could be assured that the personnel involved had been punished.

NJP punishment is unit punishment and the record of punishment does not leave the unit. After a year, the unit record is destroyed. The individual’s permanent record will not have any documents relating to the NJP.

I would have expected that, as non-commissioned officers in an elite unit, SEALs would have had some understanding of the military justice system or, if they were ignorant of the military justice system, could and would seek advice from either JAG or civilian attorneys knowledgeable in military law.

However, these SEALs, either with or without legal advice, chose the worst possible course of action for themselves, the SEALs and the United States. They are facing a Court-Martial in which the penalties that they may incurr if found quilty will ruin their careers and reduce their opportunities as civilians.

Based upon the information now available, which includes statements from the SEALs themselves, they have little or no chance of being found innocent under the UCMJ. No officer or enlisted man sitting as a juror could, under the known circumstances, find them not guilty without violating their oath.

I would not attempt to justify the unprofessional conduct displayed by these men and I strongly advise others not to do so. This is not something that a reasonable person can blame on either President Obama or his administration.

The mistreatment of prisoners is a serious offense under the UCMJ and the old Articles of War. On one blog, one person asked what would General Patton have done? When a National Guard officer, who had just landed on the beach in Sicily, walked over to a group of Italian POW’s under guard and started shooting,

His unit commander and the unit medical officers wanted to handle the matter as a mental problem. The individual and his family were politically connected as well as being part of the media. In fact, the individual called Drew Pearson “Uncle Drew.”

Patton had him Court-Martialed for murdering the Italian POW’s. Of course, once the individual was sent back to the states and was out of Patton’s juristiction, the fix was made and the individual was allowed to resign “for the good of the service.”

By the way, the individual’s defense was that in shooting the Italian POW’s, he was carrying out General Patton’s orders. Calley tried the same defense after My Lai but it did not work then either.

During my military career, I had the pleasure of working with Rangers and Special Forces. I trained for small unit recon and combat patrols behind enemy lines. One thing that most of my Ranger and Special Forces friends agreed on was that they did not want to go behind enemy lines with anyone who had self-control problems.

Although, I did not see combat, I did take part in intelligence patrols in East Berlin. These were overt operations with the patrol members in full dress uniform, unarmed, riding in an Army sedan. I was a patrol leader and carefully selected those individuals who would accompany me on patrol. I did not want anyone who could not be trusted to maintain good order and discipline in a high stress situation.

For small unit operations, my Ranger and Special Forces comrades would refuse to accept anyone that they considered to be a liability when operating behind the lines. The major disqualifier was lack of self-discipline. The SEAL who struck a prisoner, without provication, would be considered unacceptable.

Do not classify the words or deeds of your opponents as being hatefull, malicious or criminal in nature if they can also be easily characterized as simple ignorance or gross stupidity. Anon.