I don’t want ‘em in my tent


The continuing GOP identity crisis

Crisis? No crisis with me.

A strong “conservative thinker”, James Carville, recently quipped;

“I have an announcement to make. Ronald Reagan’s big tent just collapsed in Upstate New York. It no longer exists,” Democratic strategist James Carville said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

This he said following Dede Scozzafava pulling the ripcord on her campaign parachute, but I suppose prior to her proving him once again an idiot by endorsing the Democrat in the race.

I beg to differ with the likes of Carville, and more recently Allahpundit in today’s piece at Hot Air he titled “Poll: 51% of Republicans would rather risk losing elections than win with RINOs”

In it he quotes a CNN Political Ticker poll which says in part;

The poll indicates that a slight majority, 51 percent, of Republicans would prefer to see the GOP in their area nominate candidates who agree with them on all the major the issues even if they have a poor chance of beating the Democratic candidate. Forty-three percent of Republicans say they would rather have candidates with whom they don’t agree on all the important issues but who can beat the Democrats.

He says it’s not a problem at the moment, “…but if/when unemployment starts to recover and the trend stabilizes, it’s a major problem.”

First, speaking for myself I don’t foresee a huge recovery in the cards considering;

  1. The interest rates are artificially being kept low with the US printing money at an astronomical rate (see “hyperinflation“).
  2. If to forestall #1 interest rates are raised, so too raises the interest on the debt that the Obama Triad is desperately trying to triple.
  3. What does America produce today that other nations will buy?

    America got into this mess because it bought its own information. Its best information said that you can make huge money on debt, that you can give anybody a piece of plastic and move the merchandise, and that while 30% of your cardholders will default–you’ll still make money, gazillions of it. And because money buys power, you can write your own laws. You can make it so those deadbeat thirty-percenters have no choice but to pay you. You can make it so you can take their house, their car–not that you would, just that you could–and you’d be guaranteed at least another gazillion.

I’m no economist, nor do I play one here. I just don’t see anything good coming our way financially as a nation with the fiscal storm clouds on the horizon that even I can see from the ditch I dig. I’m not rooting for failure here, I just can’t see the things being done by this government as it is currently made up leading to anything but consolidation of their power and ruin for the rest of us.

So that leaves us with what kind of party do we want?

Well, what kind of party have we had for the last, oh I don’t know; say eight years? Are you happy with it? Generally speaking, when it comes to standing for conservative principles, I’m not by any means thrilled.

How many times did I yell at the air “Why won’t you idiots fight like ya got a pair?”

The left not only fights for every scrap it gets, it comes back again and again in a mass “human wave” attack for what it didn’t get.

Amnesty; got confidence in the GOP we have today when that comes up again next year? I don’t.

Stopping Obama’s march to plant radical judges from coast to coast-how’s that working out for you? 70-29 vote today on a judge who shouldn’t even be considered? Really, we have to sit and hope they stand up in the confirmation vote and hope it turns out differently?

Speaking again for myself, I’d rather have a strong minority party that will sustain a filibuster than a majority of squishes who constantly cave to the left.

My “Big Tent” includes all races and nationalities, not all ideologies. In a case where we have a clear choice between a conservative and a moderate, or even in a case such as in California with a known conservative like Chuck DeVore versus a mostly unknown, but suspect Carly Fiorina-go with the proven conservative.

What did Reagan think?

Those GOP forces who today misquote Reagan and have misunderstood Reagan’s idea of a big-tent need look no further than Mary Dent Crisp, once a prominent leader in the Republican party, who in 1977 was appointed its co-chair.

Crisp got the message, left the convention and signed on with the third party candidacy of a more moderate/liberal Republican named John Anderson.

Although Crisp had been a Republican longer than Reagan and had worked her way up the ladder of party leadership, Reagan was now defining what the party stood for and Crisp was outraged at the party’s new values on abortion and the ERA.

“Although our party has presented the outward appearance of vibrant health, I’m afraid we are suffering from serious internal sickness,” she said during platform committee meetings in 1980. “Now we are . . . about to bury the rights of over 100 million American women under a heap of platitudes.”

The next day Reagan showcased his big-tent philosophy, telling reporters that Crisp “should look to herself and see how loyal she’s been to the Republican Party for quite some time.”

I know, this is a lot of pasted stuff, but you have to see the finale.

In Reagan’s big tent, the likes of Arlen Specter would always have been welcomed, so long as they were willing to go along with Reagan, but the moment they stood in the way, as Mary Dent Crisp did, and sought to assert their policies on his vision for the party, they were shown the door. Today, the big tent that Reagan stitched together is in disarray, but if its leaders are to return from political oblivion, they’d do well to remember how Reagan went about constructing the tent and the philosophy that swept him, and two weak Republican successors who rode his political coattails into the White House, and build a tent which stands for key principles, yet never fails to welcome those who disagree, as honored guests.

First, he did indeed have a big tent, especially in 1984, which allowed 59% of the electorate to vote for him, but it was a tent of Reagan’s design in which those who disagreed with him had little say about how the tent was constructed, but were welcome to stay anyway. Pro-choice women were welcomed into the tent as voters so long as they didn’t try to change the party’s position on the issue of abortion, one which Reagan held dearly enough to have written a book about while still in office. Union members were courted by Reagan, so long as they didn’t mind Reagan’s tough policies toward organizing which included his firing of striking air traffic controllers and eventually came to be known as “Reagan Democrats.” Those jittery over Reagan’s bellicose statements on foreign policy were also welcomed, provided they could live with his tough posture toward communism. And even Rockefeller Republicans were allowed to stay in the tent so long as they realized that they were joining his party and not the other way around, that while they would be horrified by the new boss’s position on social issues for instance, they’d find something to cheer about in his tax cuts.

Reagan’s big tent also included some unsavory characters on the extreme right. While disavowing any connection to the John Birch Society, accused by some of having racist tendencies, Reagan invited its members into his big tent saying that if members supported him it was in indication that he had “persuaded them to accept my philosophy, not me accepting theirs.”

In contrast, Reagan considered members of what has derisively come to be known as “the religious right” as not a fringe group to be courted, but a foundational element of the big tent he constructed. Meeting with Christian leaders in 1980, he famously declared “You can’t endorse me, but I endorse you,” and made sure that platform committees that were to decide party policy were heavily stacked in their favor.

Interesting things from regarding the “Third Party” infection creeping through the ranks can be found here.

Bottom line for me: when it comes to weak kneed self-seeking squish Republicans whoring out their votes strictly to self-aggrandize and obtain power;

I don’t want ‘em in my tent.

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For me it depends on the "'em" you are talking about

pilgrim (Diary) Tuesday, November 17th at 10:39PM EST (link)

I like having candidates in the GOP that are duking it out over issues. If there is a State or a Congressional District where you have a conservative and a candidate duking it out in the primary, and the conservative does not win, then I am ok with that. What I hate is when there is an attempt to eliminate the contest by so-called elite experts who pretend they already know how this state or this CD is going to vote beforehand. Let the fight go on. This is what really does make the GOP a better Party than the Ds who never have any principles they will allow their party to fight over.


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Exactly

Erick Brockway (Diary) Tuesday, November 17th at 10:49PM EST (link)

If Fiorina wins, she gets all the support Chuck would have from me. The real enemy is Boxer, but I’m always going with the most conservative of the choices offered me. I learned from the current Calif Governor not to pick by electability.
Hard lesson too.

You know Erick, you're start to make me remember about a story I saw yesterday in the Houston Chronicle

Richard Mullins (Diary) Tuesday, November 17th at 11:01PM EST (link)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6722358.html

It seems that we are doing thing to clean up those Congressmen/women/Senators that don’t seem to be conservative enough. That’s not a bad idea and it should work well.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

Even in Tx, the Dems are clueless

Erick Brockway (Diary) Tuesday, November 17th at 11:31PM EST (link)

“If you are going to have a throw-the-bums-out (mentality),” said Matt Angle, director of the Lone Star Project, a Democratic group, “the bums (in Texas) are the Republicans.”

Really! One of the only states doing relatively well and this person laments Texas isn’t sinking like California.

Oh really?

izoneguy (Diary) Tuesday, November 17th at 11:36PM EST (link)

Why are more democrats turning Republican?

http://wvgazette.com/ap/ApPolitics/200911060519

Mr. Obama has not turned into the gravy train the democrats thought he was going to be…..
More like the democrats are following the asses and shoveling up the crap they are dropping.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

Good point, you don't here the Democratic Party of Texas crowing about a defection

Richard Mullins (Diary) Tuesday, November 17th at 11:45PM EST (link)

because they really haven’t had any in years and most of the Dems that change to Republicans are in areas that are Conservative/Republican in nature.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

 
 

The reason why we don't elect Dems more here in Texas(with the Exception of last year) is that the Democratic Party of Texas is more to the left than the Republican Party of Texas is to the Right

Richard Mullins (Diary) Tuesday, November 17th at 11:42PM EST (link)

So there is much chance of electing a Democrat to Statewide office(the Dems did do sort of well with a puffball candidate like Chris Bell). It never fails me that they think that current re-do is the Republican Part of Texas is a way to jump right in and win. No much chance of that happening.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

That's an understatement! nt

Menlo (Diary) Tuesday, November 17th at 11:58PM EST (link)

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

 
 
 

I'm laughing at this line...what roll exactly did the Republican Party play in the Tea Parties?

AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 11:30AM EST (link)

Some are beginning to wonder if the national GOP may have created something it can’t control.

The Tea Parties exist because people feel like they’re being ignored by BOTH parties…those of us who turned out in force last summer did so because we saw the Democrats running rampant with little or no opposition from the Republican Party….it is a movement born out of frustration at the lack of an opposition….not created by the Republican Party?

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

tea party attitudes relate to my comment upthread

pilgrim (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 11:40AM EST (link)

The one thing that angers people more than conservative or not is the elitist attitude of top GOP officials who think they know how people in a state or a CD will vote beforehand. They really try to take away the opportunity for voters to measure the views of the opposing primary candidates themselves. It is this elitist attitude of top GOP officials to decide who is or is not electable that people are sick and tired of.


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I agree...the quote I made is from Rich's Houston Chronicle Link nt

AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 11:45AM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

the reply to the quote I mean...nt

AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 11:46AM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 

I'm guessing that this speculation from the Writers part

Richard Mullins (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 11:45AM EST (link)

and definitely typical Hearst explanation. I think that Cal Jillison has gotten it right when it comes to this. Writers for the Houston Chronicle are a bit leftist than those at the SAEN(San Antonio Express-News).

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

 

Kaiser

civil truth (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 12:40PM EST (link)

what roll exactly did the Republican Party play in the Tea Parties

:)

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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I caught that after I posted it......oh well nt

AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:55PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 
 

EB, I know you have (2) Jobs What Is Your Primary Job - Rocket Scientist?

rcov092 (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 6:14PM EST (link)

Your posts are always dead on an so clearly written they pierce the shell of any contraveiling argument that may be made in opposition. I fully appreciate your long, thoughtful diary’s and share them with other members of my County REC Board whenever I can.

One last though – when are you going to be elected REC Chair in your County?

“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”

It's not rocket science

Erick Brockway (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 8:05PM EST (link)

That’s what I don’t get.
It seems that after Jan 20 2009, everybody left in this country with common sense started migrating to the tea party movement; everyone else is either pulling on a purple shirt or drooling in front of American Idol getting their news in 10 second promos.

No its not rocket science, but you are able to clealry

rcov092 (Diary) Thursday, November 19th at 1:48AM EST (link)

present the reality while guys making 10 times what you do stutter andstumple over this as if they were asking for their first date.

“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”

 

unfortunately

kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, November 19th at 6:23PM EST (link)

Every time I see your tagline I think of that ambulance chasing Ho Erin Brockovich.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

Yeah, every time I see Churchill quoted

Erick Brockway (Diary) Thursday, November 19th at 8:47PM EST (link)

…I automatically think of silicone breasted lawyer wannabes.
: p

 
 
 
 
 
 

Speaking of "big tents"

Menlo (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:39AM EST (link)

You’ve got to love what my State Board of Education representative had to say about Republicans who disagree with her.

It is one thing to disagree, but her hypocrisy and rhetoric in that statement was beyond the pale. Fortunately, it appears she won’t run for election again.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

 

Here's a theme for you....The line from Tom Davis and the RMSPers now is how we've driven them out of existance...

AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 11:07AM EST (link)

There is not a single congressman from New England in Congress today and the script they play from is that it was conservative intolerance that drove them out. Yet no one ever asks them exactly HOW conservatives have supposedly driven them out of existence…

When exactly did the conservatives in New England force their ideology on the local parties? What conservative candidates have run in New England and what moderate candidates have been thrown over the side to make room for them? what test of ideological purity has been enforced on the New England GOP that has caused this purge of any elected Republican Officeholder?

They’ve had free reign to pick their candidates for their state and local races! They have had free reign to shape their own messages in the New England states….they have had the latitude to get Republicans elected in New England using whatever recruiting, messaging, and advertising they wanted…they have been the determiners of the Republican brand in New England for decades, (never mind they’ve driven the message of the party since 1992. Look at the conventions headlined by Schwarzenegger, Giuliani and every prominent squish in the Republican party in the last 17 years). Whatever has happened on the national level…the left and right coasts have been the masters of their own destinies….and where are they?

but most importantly…given the dismal failure on their parts to hold on to…let alone capture a single congressional seat in New England how is it that not only are they not responsible for their favors…but that they are allowed to lay it all at the feet of conservatives that they trash at every turn?!

WHAT UNMITIGATED GALL!!!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson