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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-605</link>
		<dc:creator>penguin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how long that will fit in with the site.  RedState is for the promotion of conservative/Republican causes, ideals and candidates.  As you did indicate you are pro-life, I will respond.   

If you look at all of my comments, each time I reiterated that Lance Corporal Bernard had the right to die with dignity.  His picture should not have been taken and used for ulterior propaganda purposes.  Your side has long believed and practiced abuse of any and all options to get their anti-war, anti-military agenda promoted.

Since say you are a steadfast pacifist, and you value all human life, which you say makes you pro-life; why not add in that every individual has dignity and a right to have that dignity at the end of their lives, rather than have their death exploited.  Your beliefs and agenda infringe on the rights of others.  That&#039;s what Socialism does, the collective mind over the individual.

As far as your time here at RS, the moderators monitor the site.  If all you have to offer is your Socialist beliefs, you won&#039;t be here long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how long that will fit in with the site.  RedState is for the promotion of conservative/Republican causes, ideals and candidates.  As you did indicate you are pro-life, I will respond.   </p>
<p>If you look at all of my comments, each time I reiterated that Lance Corporal Bernard had the right to die with dignity.  His picture should not have been taken and used for ulterior propaganda purposes.  Your side has long believed and practiced abuse of any and all options to get their anti-war, anti-military agenda promoted.</p>
<p>Since say you are a steadfast pacifist, and you value all human life, which you say makes you pro-life; why not add in that every individual has dignity and a right to have that dignity at the end of their lives, rather than have their death exploited.  Your beliefs and agenda infringe on the rights of others.  That&#8217;s what Socialism does, the collective mind over the individual.</p>
<p>As far as your time here at RS, the moderators monitor the site.  If all you have to offer is your Socialist beliefs, you won&#8217;t be here long.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Hibbert</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-604</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Hibbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a favorite ploy of the left and too often we take the bait, but it&#039;s a distraction from the facts.

Right says:  X is wrong.
Left says: Oh yeah, but what about when you did (insert something unrelated). 

Somekd, address the issue.  Is the action of the press in this case wrong or not?

Support your arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a favorite ploy of the left and too often we take the bait, but it&#8217;s a distraction from the facts.</p>
<p>Right says:  X is wrong.<br />
Left says: Oh yeah, but what about when you did (insert something unrelated). </p>
<p>Somekd, address the issue.  Is the action of the press in this case wrong or not?</p>
<p>Support your arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: somekid</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>somekid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: somekid</title>
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		<dc:creator>somekid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Penguin 
Thanks for the first response that actually addressed what I said. Let me respond... 
I had misread the article, I thought it said the family gave permission for the AP to post the photo. I agree COMPLETELY that if the family did not want the photo shown, then it shouldn&#039;t have been shown. Just to be clear on that. 

However, the bigger point is, I feel like we aren&#039;t all in agreement on if the picture should be shown if the family DID agree to let it be shown. I personally think that photos like this do need to be shown to show the true face of war. Yet, keeping in respect of people&#039;s rights and privacies, this should only be done with families permissions. 

Also - to a few people who commented back, I&#039;ll have you know, that I am basically a socialist, I&#039;m so far left :) ... however - we will find common ground: I am PRO-LIFE. I DO believe life starts at conception, there for I DO believe you should show pictures, to show the TRUE atrocity of abortion. That&#039;s why I brought it up - I wasn&#039;t trying to be smug (ok... a little smug). I try to keep my views consistent - I am a steadfast pacifist and believe all life is valuable. (i.e. we shouldn&#039;t be killing people in other countries, just like we shouldn&#039;t be killing the unborn here.)

So that being said - I think the truth should be shown, no matter how ugly it may be - because people need to see what really happens. It is only &#039;sensational&#039; journalism because it IS shocking - it is SUPPOSED to be. 

What do you al think?
C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Penguin<br />
Thanks for the first response that actually addressed what I said. Let me respond&#8230;<br />
I had misread the article, I thought it said the family gave permission for the AP to post the photo. I agree COMPLETELY that if the family did not want the photo shown, then it shouldn&#8217;t have been shown. Just to be clear on that. </p>
<p>However, the bigger point is, I feel like we aren&#8217;t all in agreement on if the picture should be shown if the family DID agree to let it be shown. I personally think that photos like this do need to be shown to show the true face of war. Yet, keeping in respect of people&#8217;s rights and privacies, this should only be done with families permissions. </p>
<p>Also &#8211; to a few people who commented back, I&#8217;ll have you know, that I am basically a socialist, I&#8217;m so far left <img src='http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230; however &#8211; we will find common ground: I am PRO-LIFE. I DO believe life starts at conception, there for I DO believe you should show pictures, to show the TRUE atrocity of abortion. That&#8217;s why I brought it up &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t trying to be smug (ok&#8230; a little smug). I try to keep my views consistent &#8211; I am a steadfast pacifist and believe all life is valuable. (i.e. we shouldn&#8217;t be killing people in other countries, just like we shouldn&#8217;t be killing the unborn here.)</p>
<p>So that being said &#8211; I think the truth should be shown, no matter how ugly it may be &#8211; because people need to see what really happens. It is only &#8216;sensational&#8217; journalism because it IS shocking &#8211; it is SUPPOSED to be. </p>
<p>What do you al think?<br />
C</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;If the family was fine with the picture being shown, then it’s the press’ duty to show it. Show the true face of war.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What part of &quot;&lt;i&gt;The AP reported that the Marine’s father had asked – in an interview and in a follow-up phone call — that the image, taken by an embedded photographer, &lt;b&gt;not be published.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&quot; did you fail to comprehend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>If the family was fine with the picture being shown, then it’s the press’ duty to show it. Show the true face of war.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>What part of &#8220;<i>The AP reported that the Marine’s father had asked – in an interview and in a follow-up phone call — that the image, taken by an embedded photographer, <b>not be published.</b></i>&#8221; did you fail to comprehend?</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-600</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah Palin: Shame on the Associated Press for Ignoring the Wishes of a Grieving Family

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=129417598434</description>
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		<title>By: OccamsRazor</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-599</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You...from the bottom of my heart.</description>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your side acknowledges legally that aborted &quot;fetus&quot; was a killed human being, our side stops carrying the signs, and we let the murder laws apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your side acknowledges legally that aborted &#8220;fetus&#8221; was a killed human being, our side stops carrying the signs, and we let the murder laws apply.</p>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>penguin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coincidence?  Related to Cars?</description>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>penguin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point upthread was to the leftist commenter that she found it &quot;acceptable&quot; to publicize the picture of a wounded and dying soldier, despite his family&#039;s pleading to do otherwise.  I contrasted that with the left&#039;s screaming whenever pictures are portrayed of aborted babies.  My point being, they don&#039;t want those pictures shown, because the people who have become desensitized to abortion and the destruction of babies, would be so appalled that they would rise up and demand a change or a stop in the abortion machine in this country.  It&#039;s called hypocrisy.  Just as they want to use a soldier&#039;s agony for propaganda purposes, they cry foul if the equally abhorrent pictures of dead babies are in the public square.

And you do need to do some rereading.  &quot;If the family was fine with the picture being shown, then it&#039;s the press&#039; duty to show it.&quot;  The diary and every comment on this diary clearly tells you that the family pleaded this not be done.  And I guess I&#039;ll repeat myself in case you don&#039;t read anything else but this:

Lance Corporal Bernard had as much right to die with dignity as any human being, whether he was in uniform or not.  To me, that is not open for debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point upthread was to the leftist commenter that she found it &#8220;acceptable&#8221; to publicize the picture of a wounded and dying soldier, despite his family&#8217;s pleading to do otherwise.  I contrasted that with the left&#8217;s screaming whenever pictures are portrayed of aborted babies.  My point being, they don&#8217;t want those pictures shown, because the people who have become desensitized to abortion and the destruction of babies, would be so appalled that they would rise up and demand a change or a stop in the abortion machine in this country.  It&#8217;s called hypocrisy.  Just as they want to use a soldier&#8217;s agony for propaganda purposes, they cry foul if the equally abhorrent pictures of dead babies are in the public square.</p>
<p>And you do need to do some rereading.  &#8220;If the family was fine with the picture being shown, then it&#8217;s the press&#8217; duty to show it.&#8221;  The diary and every comment on this diary clearly tells you that the family pleaded this not be done.  And I guess I&#8217;ll repeat myself in case you don&#8217;t read anything else but this:</p>
<p>Lance Corporal Bernard had as much right to die with dignity as any human being, whether he was in uniform or not.  To me, that is not open for debate.</p>
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		<title>By: TallChE</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>TallChE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only a fertilized egg or a mass of cells.  It couldn&#039;t be a child, because then it would be the picture of a murdered child, not just a dead one!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only a fertilized egg or a mass of cells.  It couldn&#8217;t be a child, because then it would be the picture of a murdered child, not just a dead one!!!</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO....

And the world would be much better without a bunch of nuts holding 70 million Iranians hostage....

George Bush had every intention of invading Iran...
The left stopped that before Bush could finish the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO&#8230;.</p>
<p>And the world would be much better without a bunch of nuts holding 70 million Iranians hostage&#8230;.</p>
<p>George Bush had every intention of invading Iran&#8230;<br />
The left stopped that before Bush could finish the job.</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you follow these lefty&#039;s statements to their logical conclusion, that is what they are arguing.</description>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from this RedState reader. Nicely done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from this RedState reader. Nicely done.</p>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
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		<dc:creator>redneck_hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SteveLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No great harm, and nicely said.</description>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/towdogincal/2009/09/04/there-must-be-consequences/#comment-587</link>
		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comparison was thoughtless, and I shouldn&#039;t have reacted to the criticism as I did.

I apologize to the family of this fallen soldier, to all current and former servicemen, to the author of this diary for inserting a mess, to those that pointed out my error, and to the RedState readership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comparison was thoughtless, and I shouldn&#8217;t have reacted to the criticism as I did.</p>
<p>I apologize to the family of this fallen soldier, to all current and former servicemen, to the author of this diary for inserting a mess, to those that pointed out my error, and to the RedState readership.</p>
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		<title>By: somekid</title>
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		<dc:creator>somekid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...not a troll. Was I disrespectful in any of my comments? I was merely asking a question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;not a troll. Was I disrespectful in any of my comments? I was merely asking a question.</p>
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