What kind of crap is THIS?


Sorry for the language, but damn

Just saw this little blurb about “The Pentagon” lifting restrictions about taking pictures of our deceased service men and women “if the families of casualties agree.”

  1. Like they’ll be asked
  2. Like they’d agree if they were
  3. Like my current CinC keeps promises?

Note to Obama; first damn time you let HuffPo or anyone else use pics of my KIA brothers and sisters for propaganda, either directly or indirectly, you can re-institute the draft because I’m out and I won’t be alone.

WASHINGTON (AP) – Defense and congressional officials say news organizations will be allowed to photograph the homecomings of America’s war dead under a new Pentagon policy.

The officials say Defense Secretary Robert Gates has decided to allow photos of flag-draped caskets at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, if the families of casualties agree.

Gates planned to announce his decision later Thursday. The current ban was put in place by President George H.W. Bush.

I have absolutely no confidence that the sanctity pretended above would be observed. I can’t even write anymore.


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This is another step

loewenbrau (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:12PM EST (link)

in the many that will be taken to dismantle our country, as we know it. As we watch sports, celebrities’ antics. look for jobs, struggle to pay our bills—-this White House & its unsavory allies will chip away, one pebble , at a time, all that was once tradition, religion, freedom and liberty.

They're way past chipping "pebbles." nt

Achance (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:13PM EST (link)

In Vino Veritas

Yup

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:31PM EST (link)

It’s boulders or nothing. Whole mountains at a time if they think they can get away with it.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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that is awful

mom2oneson (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:18PM EST (link)

Who is going to ask a grieving parent or spouse this????? I can’t believe they would even think of something like this to ask a grieving person.

These people are sick and they do not respect anything.

the 'cindy' poeple out their

djemi (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:33PM EST (link)

are the ones that will allow it

“If I can’t shoot rabbits,then I can’t shoot fascist”
“With age, comes Wisdom, but only if you are paying Attention, son” my ‘Old Man’
RS Help files (h/t JLenardDetroit) Grassroots in Michigan
Moes Strategy

 

MSM Reporter: May I take a picture your dead? No? Okey, fine .... I'll take a picture anyway to remind you that he (she) died for my freedom after all.

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 3:00PM EST (link)

Defense Secretary Gates should be warned that his role is to advise Obama…. not just follow every whimsical instruction of Obama and;/or his minions.

 
 

Somethings you just do because you can.

Achance (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:25PM EST (link)

And I’m sure these fiends think this is a fun kind of payback to the evil BusHitler administration. They’ll think it is great fun to plaster those coffins around just like they did during Vietnam.

In Vino Veritas

 

He has no honor... nt

olsmithie (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:27PM EST (link)

While that's apparent to us...

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:33PM EST (link)

The left will have to say that it depends on what the meaning of honor is.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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I know this is turning into an obsession

AKSteveB (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:33PM EST (link)

and that this is a threadjack, but I don’t see an open diary and I just can’t get this out of my brain. Honestly, did you older timers really see all of this coming? During the campaign of course, a lot of you predicted it, but I figured that was just campaign hyperbole. Did you actually believe it would come to this?

Other question. What is a Kowalski (yes I realize he is a regular contributor here, but I wonder what you mean by that). Maybe we need a “Red State Dictionary”.

Hell is other people – Sartre

Kowalski is so notorious for replying to his own posts

Achance (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:38PM EST (link)

to add something else that doing that has become known as doing a kowalski.

And yes, I saw it all along and said so. I read his book, both of them! You really should take people at their word. Believe me, I’d have never stomached McCain/Palin had I not so feared BHO with a D Congress.

In Vino Veritas

 

Yes, those of us who know history---

loewenbrau (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:40PM EST (link)

and have( learned from it), saw this coming and worse—-it is just the beginning. If possible, talk to those that lived under Hitler, Stalin and Mussloni before they all pass away. Or talk to those under Castro. Or read the Gulag Archepelago from Solzhenitsin.

 

don't know if I am an "oldtimer" or not

olsmithie (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:58PM EST (link)

but yes, we saw this stuff coming, and the worst is yet to come.

Google RS for terms like 1938 Germany, and Hitler. You may be surprised. Its over 5 pages of links. And that’s just one phrase.

For instance the HR-45 Gun registration bill has already been introduced in the house. All through history registration has inevitably led to confiscation. Confiscation always leads to tyranny. as in :

Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

-one of the RS entries from the Google search.

The Germans of the day never thought it was possible, yet it happened.

Not meaning to be an accomplice in a threadjack, but, guilty as charged.

REgards

Sad thing is----

loewenbrau (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 3:09PM EST (link)

this is no longer taught in our schools, along with the Holocaust. Now, it is revisionist history by the Left , who are in charge of the hiring, the printing of books and our children. They have been busy beavers, the last 50 years — slow and methodical but effective more or less in all 50 states.

There's a reason I've been writing about Weimar

Achance (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 3:24PM EST (link)

and Ayn Rand and such. I know many of the younger posters and lurkers here have never heard any of this stuff unless their family taught them or they went out on their own and discovered it.

In Vino Veritas

I knew about Weimar

AKSteveB (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 11:50PM EST (link)

to a point and read Rand, the thing is, for those of us who came of age in the 80s and beyond is, progressivism, socialism, whatever you want to call it, was an abstract idea in our own lives, not something to take real seriously. Those of who have traveled have probably seen some of it for periods of time, whether in San Francisco or Amsterdam, but that just isn’t the same thing as seeing it acted out on a national level in ones own country. I’m sure we’ll look back and see it as a lobster being boiled phenomenon.

Hell is other people – Sartre

 
 
 

Obama: "What Holocaust?"

farstar99 (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 3:25PM EST (link)

Obama’s Pastors: “What Holocaust?”
Obama: “What Holocaust?”

National socialism, unions in control and controlled by the party in power, patronage system, destruction of Jews and suppression of any Jewish homeland, massive nationalization, gun confiscation, youth brigades brainwashed in schools from cradle to grave, a system of concentration camps, global governance, government-mandated positions on scientific issues, government control of medical records, medicine rationed, state termination of “undesirables” and “lost causes,” and government control of the press and speech.

Obama: “Wow. Those are some great ideas there! I’ll adopt them as policy.”

wish your reply could be seen and read---

loewenbrau (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 3:41PM EST (link)

by those ignorants , that voted for BHO, do not know how their children are propagandized in schools and the “happy frogs” in the warm water!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
 

I suppose, for more than the obvious reasons,

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 2:35PM EST (link)

that I should be ever more grateful my son came home in one piece. Had media even came close to me at such a time with such a request I would have decked him or her and landed myself in jail because they would be on a stretcher after the decking.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Same here!

Achance (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 3:26PM EST (link)

Thank God, and some persuasion from mean old stepdad, mine is happily using his GI benefits and his savings being a carefree college student rather than carrying a SAW in some Godawful place with Democrat rules of engagement that would get him killed.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

These people...

Amy Miller (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 3:12PM EST (link)

…want to manipulate the way people are viewing this war. I like what Achance said about “plaster[ing] those coffins around just like they did during Vietnam.” As if the administration (yes, I’m calling out BHO) is trying to say, “REPUBLICANS. This is the bed you’ve made! How does it feel? Eh?”

It’s disgusting… I haven’t hand a chance to see the justification for this travesty, but I’m sure it will make me sick to my stomach when I do.

“I’m a conservative, I’m a textualist, I’m an originalist, but I’m not a nut.”
~Scalia, J.

 

This will end badly

woodsman (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 3:14PM EST (link)

and with most likely similar results to the photo used by Michael Moore, which he infringed on. Obama and Lib’s are doing their damn best to upset this country in a manner as fast as possible.

 

I never saw this coming

Erick Brockway (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 6:19PM EST (link)

It’s like the next to the last evil taboo before baby raping with me. I never DREAMED anyone who could call him/herself my Commander in Chief would ever authorize this (expletive deleted).

I’ve been serving now for 18 1/2 years now. Once to Iraq while many of my friends have been twice. I even lost a friend, and if her death had been paraded by HuffPo “patriots” I don’t know what I would’ve done.

And yeah, I picture those on the left who would feature our war dead as political toys as actually worse than the Somalis who dragged our dead through their streets.

 

You act surprised.

Bill S (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 6:48PM EST (link)

Surely you are not. This is payback to the MSM for their fealty to their master.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

I think it just never occurred to me

Erick Brockway (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 6:57PM EST (link)

I don’t know how it couldn’t have crossed my mind that they would pull this, but it never did.
Doubtful now that I’ve had all day to be pissed about it the MSM would do anything to try to kick the unicorn out from under Obama, but I don’t know what depths this bunch may sink to anymore.
I’m thinking this is a setup for a “Pre-War Crimes Trial” for Bush. Gotta re-inflame the left. I don’t know, hardly seems necessary to taint the jury.

 
 

I simply do not understand how an American

Praying (Diary) Thursday, February 26th at 7:16PM EST (link)

could NOT want to take the people who staged three separate attacks on OUR soil (Trade Centers, Pentagon, Pennsylvania) to task – I was so mad, angry, violated, etc. I CELEBRATED our involvement in this war! What was America supposed to do? Sit idly by like some emasculated pansy, and say “oh, you hurt me. I’m going to cry”? Heck no! You fight back!

When my oldest son was in the 9th grade, a “new kid” at his private Christian high school, there was this kid who decided to bully him. They were in P.E., and this kid started hitting my son on the shoulders. ( He’s a swimmer, and was in mid-season training – pretty sore shoulders at that time). He was asked politely to stop, asked not so politely to stop, my son got up and moved away, still the kid kept hitting him. The coach was not paying attention (the girls were on the b’ball court at the time). Finally, my son had enough, and hauled off and slugged this kid in the mouth. It was the first time he had ever hit ANYone, and he was shocked at what he had done. Especially when the kid started bleeding from a split lip. My son went to find a trusted teacher, and told her what he had done. The kid was OK, just stunned, but my son was traumatized by his actions.

BUT. Both the teacher, and later the principle, told him that under the circumstances, he had done the RIGHT thing and would not be disciplined. They told him he was being attacked, and had every right to defend himself. And that kid never bothered my son again. In fact, they ended up being good friends. My son earned his RESPECT by sticking up for himself.

So there is a lesson here. At least I think there is. I do not advocate violence on the offensive, but when someone attacks you (or your country), you have every right to fight back and defend yourself (or your country).

What is so difficult about this? I worry about our country, that we no longer teach our boys to be men, and to defend their honor and that of our country.

No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming

Private school, huh?

fmaidment (Diary) Saturday, February 28th at 9:21PM EST (link)

That explains why he wasn’t punished.

In public school, they’d have gone into lock-down. Counselors would have been called to help the poor children deal with their emotions following such a traumatic event. It’s likely he’d have been suspended or expelled.

Is it any wonder private school kids, by and large, end up with better test scores and more successful that public school kids?

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We don't need feminazis

jkumatsu Thursday, February 26th at 11:51PM EST (link)

We need Spartan mothers so this wouldn’t even be an issue

 

Disgusting and shameful

antisocial (Diary) Friday, February 27th at 12:05AM EST (link)

I just don’t get the mentality. Retards.

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Anyone who says

fmaidment (Diary) Saturday, February 28th at 9:18PM EST (link)

Anyone who says that a flag-draped coffin is a disgrace needs a reality check.

Someone who uses a photo of a flag-draped coffin as propaganda against the war is someone who doesn’t understand the very nature of war, or the men and women who fight.

That flag, the honor guard, the respectful salute of every person on the ground… It is one of the most respectful things we can do for our honored dead. It signifies that this man or woman died in defense of liberty and freedom.

But liberty and freedom are things the Left simply doesn’t understand.

So they call that flag-draped coffin shameful and use it as pretend propaganda.

Fine. Let them take their photos. Let them show the world the sacrifice Americans make in the name of freedom. Real freedom, not the farcical ideology of the Left.

I will consider each photo a monument to the soldier, to their sacrifice. “Here is a soldier who loved liberty so much that they gave their life in its defense” will, for me, replace every caption.

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It's not even OUR media...

eudemonist Sunday, March 1st at 12:59PM EST (link)

…that poses the worst problem, though the idea of photos of our dead being used in our politics is distasteful. The REAL bad part is when those photos go out and terrorists start using them for THIER propaganda.