The end of the Palin effect?


I know this may be blasphemy for many here at RedState, but the question has to be asked, is this the end of Sarah Palin’s influence as a Queen maker? Many of her high profile candidates she was pushing didn’t win and were not very good candidates – Angle, Miller, O’Donnell, and Buck were poor candidates who lost elections that were there for the GOP taking. Nikki Haley had a much more difficult time than would have been expected in SC, especially having DeMint on the ballot.

Yes she supported Rubio, Paul, and Ayotte who won, however they were were strong candidates with good backgrounds on their own who will not owe their careers to her.

My guess is this will set the stage where potential GOP presidential candidates will not fear her and be willing to take her on. This should make for some interesting palace intrigue within the Republican Party over the next 18 months leading into the ’12 primaries. It will either make her a stronger candidate or expose her, either way we need to now before the primaries and eventually the general election.



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Perhaps you might wish to consider where we'd be

texasgalt (Diary) Wednesday, November 3rd at 7:47PM EST (link)

without the Palin effect and the tea party movement. Really think about it. It’s not that complicated.

You know those other guys, the Donks . . . they got game too . . . and even this year in many cases it was a better ground game than ours. The fact they lie, cheat and invent votes doesn’t matter. Those union boots are made for walking . . . and often, winning.

It was a glorious night. The Republicans made a huge surge. Palin and the tea party uprising had a heck of a lot to do with it.

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People should consider where we were when Rick Santelli

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 1:27AM EST (link)

ranted on the exchange floor.

On football websites, there’s always a ton of Monday morning quarterbacks questioning this or that call. If you listen to those outside the Tea Party, you’ll be sitting with them outside of Congress.

 
 

Huh?

cookcountyconservative (Diary) Wednesday, November 3rd at 8:06PM EST (link)

Palin backed 43 candidates for the House. Thirty of them won, with races involving nine others still undecided. Her record in Senate races was closer: She endorsed 12 candidates. Seven won.

No one fought harder for conservatives than Sarah Palin. I thank her and hope she keeps it going. Whatever direction she wants to take in the future, I see it as a win for conservatives.

Nothing’s more intriguing than a winner.

 

I think Palin did just fine......

groveratt Wednesday, November 3rd at 8:11PM EST (link)

I think she is a driving force in our conservative movement and I look for her to be stronger in the next election when we take out more rinos and dems.

 

Palin Effect was strong

bluerose75 Wednesday, November 3rd at 8:42PM EST (link)

Palin did just fine. Buck ran one of the worst campaigns I have ever seen. This guy who was a professional prosecutor in public was fumbling, mumbling and just ridiculous. Again, was sinks our candidates is when they try to be all to end all. What in the world Buck was doing on Meet The Press with that Liberal Jerk Gregory I will never know!! Just the stupid things like this sink GOP cnadidates all time. Some jerk behind the scenes convinces them to show how they can appeal to everyone and that they are not afraid and then BAM they run into some bias fool like Gregory and sink there goes the campaign.

You can trace Buck’s fall to his appearance on MTP. Not because of his stance on homosexuality but because ihe fumbled around, could not answer questions and just looked trivial. You cannot do that and appeal to Independents and think they are going to vote for you! He tanked after that and never recovered. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PALIN!

To me Colorado was the most for the taking. The GOP fumbled that so badly. That GOP State Chairman is CLUELESS. His ground game was a joke!! Bennett’s numbers were pathetic and in a state where Obama’s approval was barely over 40 IT IS A DISGRACE!! The GOP had better learn how to get the ground game out there. To lose with such an early voting lead is unbelievable. Buck had little fire!!

Nevada..people Harry Reid is so entrenched with the power structure. Angle had so much more to climb. Any GOP candidate would have had a hard time. It is sad to see a state with near 15 percent unemployment vote for a twit like Reid. But you know what.. let Las Vegas and Clark county suffer. They deserve it and I hope their casinos continue to struggle and let the union losers stew in their lost jobs. Do not expect people here at Red State to spend a time in a city that claims to be free spirited then votes for a Socialist!! Enjoy your empty casinos. Go ask Harry for a hand out!! You reap what you sow!! The GOP in the House will not help Harry bail you out…too bad!! Look at it this way…your casinos are empty…GO PRESS YOUR LUCK!! I see unemployment here getting close to 20 percent or more!!

Palin did very well and it is nice to see someone who truly believes in something have a passion and fire. The Tea Party has shined a spotlight on DC like never before and that is a great thing for all America!

 

Palin had a great election cycle

nepanyrush Wednesday, November 3rd at 8:53PM EST (link)

For some reason, even many in the liberal media recognize Palin had a great election cycle (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/03/earlyshow/main7017707.shtml) and yet some at Red State are making it look like she failed. As CBS News reports, and also mentioned by Cookcountyconservative above, “[Palin} backed 43 candidates for the House. Thirty of them won, with races involving nine others still undecided. ... She endorsed 12 candidates [ in the Senate]. Seven won.”

That is a much better track record than any other single person that I know of in this campaign cycle. Without her, who knows where we would be now.

I might anger a few people, but here is the truth. Palin will NEVER be President

Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, November 3rd at 9:02PM EST (link)

we wasted a hell of a lot of money on O’donnell, Angle, and Whitman. Mark my word, I sent money too and supported them to the end. But the fact is we made a lot of tactical errors. If we had spent just 3 percent of that money on House races, we could easily have won 5 more.

Palin will be a great spokeswoman and money raiser, I am glad she is part of our efforts. But she will not be the president, she has too much baggage, and her family continues to pack more and more bags. She is not presidential material. It is true Obama is not presidential material, but that is beside the point. We Republicans have much more to overcome than the left. They have an institutional advantage. We can do better than Palin, and we will. Right now, we need a House of Representatives to do better, we have to earn everything we get.

Molon Labe!

I saw Palin sitting next to Geraldine Ferraro last night

izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, November 3rd at 9:08PM EST (link)

Palin had a look on her face like Ferraro kept cutting farts…..

It was telling. I don’t think Palin wants to be President. She is having a great time and making tons of money.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

Ferraro must hate the invention of HD tv. -nt

Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, November 3rd at 9:14PM EST (link)

Molon Labe!

 

I agree

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, November 3rd at 9:36PM EST (link)

Why do the most stressful job in the world when you can be a part-time pundit, raise money for the troops, be good at your job and loved for it, and making tons of money?

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

 
 

Indeed

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, November 3rd at 9:37PM EST (link)

Jesse Kelly would have easily won with some more cash, and IMO Ruth McClung would have been able to pull through with a squeaker. Oh well, the past is the past, so I guess we’ll see how the new Reps do at not getting corrupted by Congress.

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

5 -nt

Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, November 3rd at 9:56PM EST (link)

Molon Labe!

 
 
 
 

Actually, I thought Palin did a great job.

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:24AM EST (link)

She is great at throwing red meat to the base and raising money. She’s also a good lightening rod. I hope she stays with it.

 

Wishful thinking

SirGladiator (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 1:59AM EST (link)

I know there are liberals and RINOs engaging in wishful thinking, hoping that somehow Sarah won’t run for President, and in truth we won’t know for a while, probably even she doesn’t know yet. But we true Conservatives are happy to know that its pretty much as certain as it can be at this point, that she will run. Obviously she has to talk to her family, talk to her campaign team, etc. and make sure everything’s set for the go, but she’s certainly the strongest person we could nominate, so hopefully it’ll all be a go very soon.

I know there is some short-sightedness and limited-thinking out there, that goes along the lines of ‘But Sarah Palin is controversial! She will be attacked by the liberal media if we nominate her!’. That only makes sense until you think for a few seconds, and realize that last go round we nominated the liberal media’s favorite Republican of all time, John McCain. How’d that work out? Did the media give him that sweet free pass that you’re looking for? The fact is that it doesn’t matter whether we nominate Sarah Palin, John McCain, or anybody else, the reaction from the liberal media is going to be the same. They’re going to attack our nominee, call them various nasty names, lie about and distort their words and their record, etc. The fact that Sarah Palin has already gone through that for years gives her a HUGE advantage over anybody else we could nominate.

The thinking that if we elect a squish/moderate type person like Romney that the media will let him walk into the White House is absurd. Sure they’ll be really nice to him in the Primaries, they’ll pretend they like him, they’ll publish some polls showing Romney beating Obama but Palin losing to him, etc. its all for the same reason, because if you’re against Palin, the media is for you. They’ll be for him, or whoever ends up being the Establishment’s man, for as long as they’re running against Palin. They’ll say awesome stuff about them, really do their best to convince regular Republicans that this will be the year, the one year in history that the media will actually favor the Republican over the Democrat, and all they ask is that you not nominate the horrible Sarah Palin. Such a deal! Of course that deal is only in place until the Primary is over, then if enough Republicans foolishly take the deal, and somehow Sarah were to lose, as soon as she gives her concession speech the deal will be over, and they’ll be back squarely behind their true love, Obama, and the articles and commentaries savaging the Establishment Republican will begin, just the same as any other year, and he will lose, and won’t that be shocking? Who could see something like that coming?

Sarah Palin is the only Republican who is qualified to take on the liberal media, because she’s been doing it for years, they’ve thrown everything they’ve got at her and she’s beaten them repeatedly, including most recently last night, an overwhelming victory. She knows their tricks, and she knows how to beat them. She OWNS them. No other Republican we could nominate has her skills, skills that are required if we’re going to defeat Obama and all his media lackeys. I look forward to watching her continue her ownership of the lamestream media, as she wins the Republican nomination and the White House!

Right now, Palin is my gal

scorpio0679 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 10:55AM EST (link)

A very good friend of mine (an establishment-type RINO, I might add) said to me on election night that if Palin runs for president, he’ll hide under a rock and never speak about politics to anybody until after the election.

You know what? That actually makes me want to support Palin more. If for no other reason than to stick my finger in his eye (as much as I like the guy).

The bottom line is this. Based on the results from 2010 and my conservative instincts, until and unless someone with the same conservative credentials who is more inspiring to me than Sarah Palin steps up to the plate, I will support her for president. And mark my words, she is running.

That doesn’t mean I am closed-minded. When people ask me right now who I support, I say it is way too early to tell. But I do admit that at the moment, I am inclined to support Palin. We just have to wait and see what the batting order lineup looks like a year from now.

I think we have to be careful with the RINO comment

texas214 (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 12:31PM EST (link)

I think we’ re beginning to over use the RINO comment. If a good conservative is say not a Palin fan, but a fan of Chris Christie, would they be a RINO? If they preferred Paul Ryan to Palin, would they be a RINO?

I think the answer to this is no. The immediate attacking, defensive, response to people within the conservative movement who question her abilities and qualifications needs to stop. If she is the best qualified it will come to the surface and she will prove herself worthy.

If she can prove herself in the glaring light of a primary battle then the GOP and Sarah Palin will be better for it.

 
 
 

short answer for texas214

Philip (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 8:44AM EST (link)

nah, not yet. Tricky waters ahead, so far doing great. No one bats a 100 every time.

 

Blasphemy!

After Seven (Diary) Thursday, November 4th at 4:49PM EST (link)

Or at least faulty analysis.

1. Many posts above have correctly observed that Palin backed candidates did very very well.

2. In a Bad Economy, Female candidates fare poorly. That trend was re-proven in this election cycle

3. Everything Palin says or does is re-broadcast across the Conservative and liberal media, making her the most effective and influential Conservative Communicator outside of Rush. Additionally, she dominates new media Twitter/FB like no other politician on planet earth, in fact, no one’s even close.

4. Sarah continues to be among the best fundraisers in America. Money = Influence. So long as she can raise funds… the Palin effect will be a political reality.

5. She is going to run in 2012. Bank on it.

6. So long as Obamacare is the law of the land, so long as unemployment continues and jobs evaporate, so long as the EPA, FCC & Dept. of Education continue on their March towards Marxism….Palin’s influence will grow, not diminish, she consistently finds the Achilles heal in every Obama policy/decision/legislation and broadcasts it to the world. Her advisers have done a Fantastic job of picking their battles.

7. She has given an under-appreciated voice to female conservatives or ‘mama grizzlies.’ Its a statistical fact, former Dem. leaning women are coming to the GOP/TP in record numbers…she is the undisputed leader of that demographic.

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite.” ~ James Madison
(Federalist 45)