Ok so he wasn’t and I am sorry for using an inflamatory title just to get you in here reading, but I am sure you have heard Jesus called this by many on the left. So since you are here lets briefly look at their argument and where they are wrong.
Jesus stood against the Roman Empire so he must have been a progressive. Wrong. In fact Christ had no interest in the Roman government or its way of life. He stated many times let Rome be Rome or I did not come to change Rome (paraphrased) and his only mission was the saving of souls. Now if Christ did not in any way try to influence Rome or change Rome, this example would not really define him as a progressive…right? If anything, this would put him in the conservative world. We do not want to change our way of government or overthrow it, we want it to stay the way it was designed so that our way of life and our freedoms remain intact.
Progressives desire new laws and new respect due to a new year and a new time. Again they will use Jesus as an example of changing law to fit the times and new desires of their Godless souls, but they only want to use certain sections of the Bible and twist it to fit their agenda. They try to use the fact Jesus rebelled against the religious leaders of the time in some situations. They refer to such passages as the healing on the Sabbath ones, the gathering of food by the disciples on the Sabbath ones, and of course their favorite, when Jesus stopped the stoning of the prostitute when he said “Let him who has not sinned, cast the first stone.” But here is the problem with their argument, Christ did not change the law, he changed the way we get to heaven through his death. But he clearly stated the old laws were still the new laws and in fact he made them tougher. One example of this was when he said the law says that to commit adultery is a sin, but I say to simply lust in your heart after another, you have already committed adultery. Every single law that was given to Moses was not thrown out due to the changing times, it was made even tougher. Not very progressive of him wouldn’t you say?
I will not make this a sermon as this is not the forum. My point was simply this: Progressives want to think they are the enlightened of our society and want you to buy into it. They will try to equate themselves as being the same as Jesus, yet they fail to make the connection and also fail to comprehend that everything Jesus was about, they are against. The reality of this matter is that Jesus was not political, and if he were here today, he would not join a political party as it was not his mission and still is not his mission. But if Christ was to be assigned a party, he would be by far a conservative. He would not condone the progressive movement and would most likely speak out against what they do. He was our saviour who spent his life serving the poor, which by the way republicans/conservatives outgive, by a tremendous percent, the left when it comes to charity, healing the sick, preaching to the lost, and then dying for our sin. He was no where near what anyone would call a progressive but was by any definition, an extreme conservative. Not a politcal conservative, simply a by the book, laws and moral do not change with the times, strengthen the law conservative.
The Progressives goal is to change our way of life to the point everything that was is no more. They have no issue with lying or trying to make themselves look the part of a saviour. They will do their best to shine a positive light on their destructive behaviour and will exploit and twist obscure verses to prove their point. Christian or not, we have to stand against their rampant lies, destruction, and their saviour claims.We have to recognize who they are and how dangerous they are to our lives and our freedoms. We must never buy into their absurd claims and stand against them at all times.
The greatest lie the devil ever achieved was convincing so many he did not excist. We must recognize he does excist and is very much alive and well disguised as the progressive party.
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Tecash, please don't go there. Calling Hinz Rule. -nt-
CincoSolas_del_Bronx (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 1:35PM EST (link)Those dreading urbanization should remember that though the Kingdom of God first appeared in a temporal Garden, at the end of the book it is established in an eternal City. (paraphrase, James M. Boice)
soli Deo gloria
Dont go where?
tecash (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 1:47PM EST (link)Did you read or just post a comment based on the title? This is a legitimate opinion piece, not sure what that rule is, but going on your comment I must assume you simply read the title and then posted a comment.
Only the weak accept abuse, the strong give it back 10 fold. I may not have much in this life, but I do have a good eye, steady aim, and ample strength to pull a trigger. Bring your abuse on. I love this country, love the people in this country, and respect the right to life. But if you desire to forfeit your right to live, threaten my rights, my dignity, or myself or my families wellbeing and I will be more than happy to help you end your life with plenty of Vitamin bullet.
And
tecash (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 1:51PM EST (link)now that I know what the Hinz rule is, I know you did not read a single word as my piece in no way equates Christ as a progressive. Titles do not define the article, try reading it!
Only the weak accept abuse, the strong give it back 10 fold. I may not have much in this life, but I do have a good eye, steady aim, and ample strength to pull a trigger. Bring your abuse on. I love this country, love the people in this country, and respect the right to life. But if you desire to forfeit your right to live, threaten my rights, my dignity, or myself or my families wellbeing and I will be more than happy to help you end your life with plenty of Vitamin bullet.
Reply is at main level,
CincoSolas_del_Bronx (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 2:12PM EST (link)But additional commentary is here:
Fourth, it is not wise, especially in light of the Biblical record, to attempt to proclaim either prophetic or omniscient knowledge about your readers.
Fifth–and then I’m gone per Hinz–it is extremely unwise to say “they’re all wrong because they use Formula X” followed immediately by statements which … use Formula X.
Those dreading urbanization should remember that though the Kingdom of God first appeared in a temporal Garden, at the end of the book it is established in an eternal City. (paraphrase, James M. Boice)
soli Deo gloria
And yet
tecash (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 2:18PM EST (link)you continue boring me? Any more points in your pious crusade?
Only the weak accept abuse, the strong give it back 10 fold. I may not have much in this life, but I do have a good eye, steady aim, and ample strength to pull a trigger. Bring your abuse on. I love this country, love the people in this country, and respect the right to life. But if you desire to forfeit your right to live, threaten my rights, my dignity, or myself or my families wellbeing and I will be more than happy to help you end your life with plenty of Vitamin bullet.
You being bored doesn't stop you from also being wrong.
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 2:34PM EST (link)And saying that Jesus wasn’t political, and then following that by saying Jesus would have been a conservative pretty much detroys any credibility you have on this subject.
You can’t decry progs for co-opting Jesus and then attempt to co-opt Jesus.
It makes *you* look dumb instead of *them*.
YMMV
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Another who can not comprehend
tecash (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:12PM EST (link)but let me help you:
First you can be a conservative without being political. Sorry, I know you would love it to be true, but repubs did not start conservatism nor do they hold the monopoly on that title.
Second try reading what I posted and not just jump on a bandwagon. Let me copy and paste for you:
“The reality of this matter is that Jesus was not political, and if he were here today, he would not join a political party as it was not his mission and still is not his mission. But if Christ was to be assigned a party, he would be by far a conservative. He would not condone the progressive movement and would most likely speak out against what they do. He was our saviour who spent his life serving the poor, which by the way republicans/conservatives outgive, by a tremendous percent, the left when it comes to charity, healing the sick, preaching to the lost, and then dying for our sin. He was no where near what anyone would call a progressive but was by any definition, an extreme conservative. Not a politcal conservative, simply a by the book, laws and morals do not change with the times, strengthen the law conservative.”
Now notice I made it clear he was not political AND would not join a group. I also said if he was ASSIGNED, which would be not by choice, his life shows he would be conservative. Now try to read the last line of that, I know it is difficult for some, but notice I made it clear he was not a political conservative but simply a conservative.
There has to be some on here able to read and comprehend. The entire point of the post was that there is no way anyone could define Christ as a progressive, but maybe I am assuming to much when I think people will read a post, not just scan it, and recognize a title is simple a title. Too much to ask I guess!
Only the weak accept abuse, the strong give it back 10 fold. I may not have much in this life, but I do have a good eye, steady aim, and ample strength to pull a trigger. Bring your abuse on. I love this country, love the people in this country, and respect the right to life. But if you desire to forfeit your right to live, threaten my rights, my dignity, or myself or my families wellbeing and I will be more than happy to help you end your life with plenty of Vitamin bullet.
Check your attitude tecash
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:20PM EST (link)You did exactly what Cinco and I said you did. Deny it if you like.
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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I think you must
tecash (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:42PM EST (link)have me confuused with one of your subordinates. I am not bound by your approval nor do I need to check a darn thing. You are entitled to your opinion about anything, my piece included, but it is simply thjat, an opinion. I do not have to write my stuff based on what you or Cinco feels should be in it, nor do I need to accept your comments and not respond. Your opinion is no more valid than mine and since no house rules were broken by this article, I am not the one that needs to check a thing.
If you do not like what I write, feel free to not read it or comment on it. But do not assume I care anywhere near enough about your opinion that i will bow to your demands or your wished on how I should write or on what I should write about. Is that clear enough for the two of you? I write my opinions and will continue to do so. The only rules I must follow in this house are their rules, not yours or Cincos. Period!
Only the weak accept abuse, the strong give it back 10 fold. I may not have much in this life, but I do have a good eye, steady aim, and ample strength to pull a trigger. Bring your abuse on. I love this country, love the people in this country, and respect the right to life. But if you desire to forfeit your right to live, threaten my rights, my dignity, or myself or my families wellbeing and I will be more than happy to help you end your life with plenty of Vitamin bullet.
G'bye
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Then th' epitaphic Muse pled Hinz 'n' fled te cash 'er cheque. -nt-
CincoSolas_del_Bronx (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 4:38PM EST (link)Those dreading urbanization should remember that though the Kingdom of God first appeared in a temporal Garden, at the end of the book it is established in an eternal City. (paraphrase, James M. Boice)
soli Deo gloria
And another "bravo". Lots of deserving recipients today [nt]
Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:15PM EST (link)“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
First, and for the record, your assumption is incorrect.
CincoSolas_del_Bronx (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 2:03PM EST (link)Second, if you are going to make theological pronouncements in an atheological forum, you had better be standing on a stronger hermeneutic, with longer-established and more authoritative voices at your reference, than you have.
Third, if you have made theological statements which include the thought “these are not theological statements”, prefaced with “an inflammatory title” and followed by a description labelling the whole “an opinion piece”, you should not only not be surprised that some may not want to respond, but you should also consider whether the effort accomplishes more harm than good.
Those dreading urbanization should remember that though the Kingdom of God first appeared in a temporal Garden, at the end of the book it is established in an eternal City. (paraphrase, James M. Boice)
soli Deo gloria
Wow
tecash (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 2:16PM EST (link)I was almost impressed with your grasp of language until it bored me. You may not like or agree with my piece, but your little hissy fit and attempt to bring up some “rule” that does not apply was not necessary here. And if you can show me where my saying Christ was not a progressive was wrong, then you may have a point. And since it is a current event as to where progressives call themselves Christ like and that Jesus was a progressive, it applies to these forums and is a valid opinion regardless of your high and mighty attempt to regulate it to Hinz rule status.
And since Jesus is not on earth at the moment, it must be an opinion piece as we can not get his word on the matter, the two parties did not excist in his day so he never said what side he was on, so I can only look at his words and deeds and make an assumption as to where he would stand.
Now since you seem to feel as if you speak for all, if you do not want to respond, feel free to not type on this page. But you went further and tried to set precedent for all with the rule. If you feel this violates house rules, by all means feel free to flag and report it. But until then jump of the high horse and go read posts you feel meet your high standards and leave this one to those who are able to get past the title and read the post.
Now are you finished or do you feel the need to make another point?
Only the weak accept abuse, the strong give it back 10 fold. I may not have much in this life, but I do have a good eye, steady aim, and ample strength to pull a trigger. Bring your abuse on. I love this country, love the people in this country, and respect the right to life. But if you desire to forfeit your right to live, threaten my rights, my dignity, or myself or my families wellbeing and I will be more than happy to help you end your life with plenty of Vitamin bullet.
For some of us, tecash it is offensive to use the Lord's name....
penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:48PM EST (link)in a title for political points. This has come up once before, and as you yourself said this:
I do not appreciate the way the Left tries to trashe God, Jesus or people of faith, so when I see phrases like this, even if you are trying to make the opposite point, I just simply have to tell you it bothers me.
Remember, these kinds of things get picked up by search engines and the Left can take things out of context.
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Black River Wolf (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 4:06PM EST (link)To use the Left/Right argument in the time of Jesus is laughable. It is impossible to compare today’s political persuasions onto those of Christ’s time.
“In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame,
two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress.”—-John Adams
He Had to Go Back 21 Centuries to Find A Liberal Who Gave Instead of Taxing!
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 10:09PM EST (link)Mr. Obama is pretending that an economic “recovery” is underway when he knows damn well that the banking system is just blowing smoke up the shredded *** of what’s left of that economy – James Howard Kunstler
Jack, was that a "WRONG WAY" sign we just passed? ;-) -nt-
CincoSolas_del_Bronx (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 10:33PM EST (link)Those dreading urbanization should remember that though the Kingdom of God first appeared in a temporal Garden, at the end of the book it is established in an eternal City. (paraphrase, James M. Boice)
soli Deo gloria