In 2012, the Democrats will have 23 Senate seats to defend. The Republicans will have 9. Do the math.
In 2012, Obama will have a record to compare to his rhetoric. Even the MSM, try as they may, is not impervious to the stubbornness of facts.
By 2012, Obama and the Democrats will be the established power. The will become the antagonists of the the contrarians, conspiratorialists, the malcontents and the rebellious youth.
There is no monolithic Republican Party or monolithic conservative movement. Every election presents new variables and no past election provides the road map for the next. We are not going to radically change the opinions of the public in one year, but maybe three. Maybe. Politics, like life, is a series of moments. We can choose to seize them or not. We have three years to cultivate and recruit young leaders and new voters for what could be an epic election. We have three more years to educate, enlighten and inform the body politic.
Now is a time to fight a defensive war and do what we must to stop the liberal onslaught. Filibuster, delay, blockade, derail, delay and then delay some more. We simply don’t have the numbers or the opportunities to go on the offensive. Fire breathers should not be looking to perform mriacles oevernight, but they should be looking at this:
2012 – A presidential election with a sitting president who will undoubtedly have failed to deliver on hundreds of promises.
2012 – The following Senate seats up for grabs:
DEMOCRAT
Diane Feinstein – CA
Tom Carper – DE
Bill Nelson – FL
Daniel Akaka – HI
Ben Cardin – MD
Kennedy Seat – MA
Debbie Stabenow – MI
Amy Klobucher – MN
Claire McCaskill – MI
Jon Tester – MT
Ben Nelson – NE
Bob Menendez – NJ
Jeff Bingaman – NM
Hillary Clinton Seat – NY
Kent Conrad – ND
Sherrod Brown – OH
Bob Casey – PA
Sheldon Whitehouse – RI
Jim Webb – VA
Maria Cantwell – WA
Robert Byrd – WV
Herb Kohl – WI
Bernie Sanders – VT
Joe Lieberman – CT
A lackluster McCain won five of those states outright and lost three by small margins. Aside from seats in traditional Red states (WV, VA, MT …), there are seats in states that have the potential to trend Red (MI, MN…) and just some piss poor Senators in others (OH, RI, WA…)
REPUBLICANS
Jon Kyl – AZ
Dick Lugar – NV
Olympia Snowe – ME
Roger Wicker – MI
John Ensign – NV
Bob Corker – TN
Orrin Hatch – UT
John Barasso – WY
Hutchinson’s Seat –TX
The only states that Obama carried were Nevada and Maine and although you may despise Snowe, both are extremely popular. The other states are very Red. 2012 is the year for the offensive.
More good news. 2010 could be a good year for governors. The focus, on both sides, has been on Obama and his agenda, as it should. But its a becoming more evident that Democrats are going to get crushed in the gubernatorial races. Gubernatorial races have different dynamics, local flavors and are not necessarily reliant on national trends. Look at the Cook Report, which is no friend of Republicans. Here.
Despite his bias, he has no Republican seats leaning Dem and three Dem seats leaning Republican. Lingle is very popular, Oklahoma is Oklahoma and McDonnell’s numbers have been great in Virginia. Corzine is in trouble. Patterson and Patrick are definately not solid Dems. We may be in trouble in a few races, but the tide is most certainly with us.
While we may not get ideal candidates everywhere, this shapes up well for the census and redistricting. It also provides a great bulwark against Obama’s election machine in 2012.
There is plenty of work to do in the general races and the gubernatorial front, not just 2010 Senate primary races. 2012 could be epic and not because we looked to the past and tried to re-live 1980, but because we diligently, carefully and honestly looked at the landscape and looked towards the future and prepared appropriately.
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2012 also will be redistricting
Freedoms Truth (Diary) Saturday, May 30th at 4:45PM EST (link)House, Senate, President, new CDs, new state-level districts….
The Mother of All Election Battles. If we lose to liberalism in the next few years, it will be hard to recover. OTOH, if we can procrastinate or mitigate the harm, then 2012 will be a time for recovery. At the very least there will be a 4-year track record on Obama – jobs gained or jobs lost?
Due to Senate GOP electoral arithmetic, it is too much to expect a GOP Senate in 2010. A House GOP is possible, but should be considered long odds right now.
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I would say a GOP gain in the house is almost a sure bet nuext year
jeffreywturner (Diary) Saturday, May 30th at 7:27PM EST (link)Given that all seats are up and Dems hold almost all the swing districts currently, it really seems just a matter of how terrible things are for the country by then and how much actually sticks to Obama as far as if the GOP would gain the number necessary to control.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
On redistricting-
jeffreywturner (Diary) Saturday, May 30th at 7:42PM EST (link)The GOP may actually be in good shape on that front depending on next year’s state elections, at least as good a position as they have been in the past.
The problem is the actual census. I don’t know any honest and objective well-informed observer who doesn’t expect Obama to have his people over at Commerce try and cook the books there. For instance, if the census is done honestly, the latest projections have the reddest of red states actually gaining seats (and accordingly, electoral votes). However, if it is in any way close, I would look for some numbers to be manipulated to keep states like South Carolina and Texas from gaining seats.
One specific batch of good news, in my native South Carolina, we are probably going to gain a seat for the first time in about a century, and the GOP is likely to be in complete control of the re-districting here for the first time since reconstruction. So, not only are we likely to have the additional district be a red one, we can also likely draw the last white Democrat in South Carolina out of his district, giving us a net gain of 2 seats in 2012.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
the politics of delay needed NOW
Freedoms Truth (Diary) Saturday, May 30th at 5:00PM EST (link)I misspoke when I said ‘procrastinate’ as it implied to delay our own action – HARDLY. We need to make EVERY action NOW to cause a DELAY in the actions of the US Congress. We need active use of delaying tacticts by the Senate GOP to slow down the Obama train.
“Now is a time to fight a defensive war and do what we must to stop the liberal onslaught. Filibuster, delay, blockade, derail, delay and then delay some more.”
I agree
- DELAY Sotomayor
- DELAY Waxman-Markey
- DELAY the budget
- DELAY everything;
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You over-estimate them.
NeoKong (Diary) Saturday, May 30th at 5:09PM EST (link)“Even the MSM, try as they may, is not impervious to the stubbornness of facts.”
They belong to Obama now. They have gone too far to turn around now. They are just getting started. To be honest , I think they like the way that they don’t have to bother being honest anymore.
The GOP had better learn to handle the media in a more aggressive posture or they will get smeared like they always do.
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I couldn't agree more.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Saturday, May 30th at 7:33PM EST (link)Here is where the real battle is to be waged. We CANNOT win if we don’t address the media issue. Thankfully the print media is fixing itself by dying a slow and agonizing death, but we still have to address the television media. Unless we discredit them in the next couple of years, they will continue to have Americans beleive that nothing is ever Obama’s fault and anyone who opposes him is racist.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
We'll need Senate Victories in 2010 to regain control in 2012
scarlos (Diary) Saturday, May 30th at 5:53PM EST (link)Simple math–we’re unlikely to pick up 10 Senate Seats in any 1 year, so we need to chip away at their majority first.
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I think you are right, and it may happen.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Saturday, May 30th at 7:31PM EST (link)Several Dems are vulnerable, at least 3 or 4, and not many GOPers are.
A net gain of 3 would put us in position to get a majority next time.
Unfortunately, the GOP really needs 53 seats, or 52 plus the Vice President to have an actual majority because there are still 2 GOP senators who will not support us on hard party-line votes.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
Really Pollyanaish
exitsfunnel Sunday, May 31st at 4:24PM EST (link)Barring a massive shift in the political environment there is no objective reason to think that the GOP is going to pick up any net seats, let alone three or four. It’s obviously tough to handicap this stuff until after the primaries, but in rough form it looks like this to me:
Possible GOP Pickups: CO, CT, IL (25%ish), NV (25%ish)
Possible DEM Pickups: FL, LA (25% ish), MO, NH, NC, OH.
At the end of the day I expect that GOP to lose, on net, another seat or two. I would be thrilled with a wash.
-exits
really? interesting comment
David Hinz (Diary) Sunday, May 31st at 4:34PM EST (link)you said:
I have tried to remember any comment you have ever made that would support the fact that you would be thrilled with a wash.
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
I don't even know what that means?
exitsfunnel Sunday, May 31st at 4:40PM EST (link)(nm)
He's Right
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Sunday, May 31st at 4:41PM EST (link)All the enthusiam in the world isnt going to change the fact that our three best pick up attempts are CT – RINO Simmons, IL – RINO Kirk, and DE – RINO Castle. CO looks good. No one is running against Lincoln, And no one is running against Reid. If someone does, they will already be well behind in organization and money. We have to defend OH, FL, MO, NH, – all tough states and possibly KY and NC j ust to keep our present numbers and OH and NH already look bad.
Its just numbers. All the scorched earth stuff isnt going to change anything for the 2010 elections.
Enthusiasm from the base can’t always outmatch logistics.
^5
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Saturday, May 30th at 7:12PM EST (link)Good job Swamp…. Keep looking at the “whole War strategy” – and examining each battleground with achievable objectives in perspective toward overall Victory.
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+GOP Platform – GOP (still Conservative) Platform
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Why is Martinez retiring after ONE Senate term?!?!
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Sunday, May 31st at 2:33AM EST (link)FL is just one race, of course…..
WashingtonPost on Martinez retiring It seems that everyone feels (or at least SPINS) that Martinez would lose this Seat to any un-named Democrat and he doesn’t want to go through the campaign fight if he doesn’t really have any chance – especially if there is another Candidate with gravitas enough to Poll well enough that would beat the “generic Democrat”…. Who knows really? I wish we really could know!
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“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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I think this is all wrong
Neil Stevens (Diary) Sunday, May 31st at 4:29PM EST (link)Historically..
1. The President’s party does terribly in midterms
2. Presidents get re-elected
3. The President’s party does well with him
So to punt on 2010 to try to win in 2012 is absolutely backwards.
There’s more to this election than the Senate, and the Senate isn’t a lost cause.
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