Every Muslim who is not a citizen should immediately be deported. I am frickin’ sick of people trying to pass off this stone age political/social personality cult which practices and condones child rape and the murder of women as some type of religion. Is the Mafia a religion? Jim Jones a religion? Hitler worship? The SS? Pol Pot? Scientology?

Muslims want to overthrow our political system and judicial system. Do ANY OF YOU think for one minute that Muslims will not detonate a nuclear weapon in an American city just as soon as they get the opportunity?

Wake up people. Muslims want to kill you. And, I’m sorry but I have neither the time nor the energy, to say nothing of the wisdom needed to sort out good Muslims from the rest.

If a Muslim doesn’t want to ahere to the basic tenets of Western Civilization, they should be sent back to the cesspool country they came from.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/11/nyregion/11mosque.html?_r=1

“In the last few months, Muslim groups have encountered unexpectedly intense opposition to their plans for opening mosques in Lower Manhattan, in Brooklyn and most recently in an empty convent on Staten Island. “

That was snark. That I have to say that on this site is a sad commentary on the current state of affairs.

http://www.newsherald.com/news/panama-86228-america-stands.html

“PANAMA CITY — A Congressional candidate told local high school and middle school students Tuesday that Islam’s plan is to destroy the American way of life.”

“I’m totally against it. If I had my way, it would pretty much be over my dead body,” said Ron McNeil, a candidate for the U.S. House District 2 seat, who was referring to a controversial plan to build an Islamic center and mosque near Ground Zero in New York City. “That religion is against everything America stands for. If we have to let them build it, make them build it nine stories underground, so we can walk above it as citizens and Christians.”

“This religion’s plan is to destroy our way of life,” McNeil said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20013448-503544.html

“Permits should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the United States of America, let alone the monstrosity planned for Ground Zero,” Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association wrote this week on the AFA website. “This is for one simple reason: each Islamic mosque is dedicated to the overthrow of the American government.”

Just terrible. I’m sure (or at least, I hope) that you’re a wonderful person and that you suggest this out of good intentions; nevertheless, such intentions do not good policy make. First off all, the rights of the citizenry shouldn’t be subject to your or anyone else’s tastes, full stop. Our rights have certainly been tarnished over the years, but banning mosques on a grand scale would permanently destroy any semblance of universal values that we currently hold. Secondly, such a proposition blithely assumes Thirdly, this would send a horrible message to the Islamic world which, lest we forget, we are trying to reach out to and moderate per our current foreign policy goals. Though I don’t agree with those goals as they stand, engaging in such an action would irreparably damage any headway we’ve made on them thus far.

Thank God most conservatives, including aforementioned “real Americans” Sarah Palin and Ann Coulter, aren’t short-sighted or foolish enough to forget that we have rights in this country, and that anytime we engage in such foolishness, the crosshairs are pointed right back at us. People like JSob bring up ideas that I disagree with strongly, but which hold validity as ideas in and of themselves. This sort of thing adds no value to the debate, is impractical, and utterly inimical to US values and goals. Shame on Newt and the other conservatives who have promoted this idea, and shame on those who have implied that such an idea is up for debate.

This post and the comments that followed are indistinguishable from those of a troll or moby (and I don’t throw out that claim often).

Apparently, there are too many here who want to forget that it is a duty for Muslims to lie and mislead the infidel, in order to forward Islam.

A true moderate Muslim wouldn’t hesitate to denounce Hamas. A true Moderate Muslim would meet with Patterson about moving the site, rather than standing on high dudgeon.

When the muslims allow explosive detectors to be built into the Mosques, my fears may be somewhat quelled. until then…???

Even if I was not a Muslim (which I proudly am), I would be actively working against any Republican candidate who runs with such a plank in his/her platform.

Shame on you, suzieQ.

Should we ban all United Methodist Churces after listening to five minues of Jeremiah Wright? Or how about banning Southern Baptists because of the “Reverend”/Idiot Pat Robertson? Each of those two individuals has done as much harm to America as this Hamas Imam.

that, if left unchecked, will drive people AWAY from the Republican party in droves.

I don’t want this s**t in my party. Get out.

While I do not agree with the theme of the post – of course you cannot simply ban a religion under our Constitution, I understand Suzy’s emotion – especially when a full quarter of the electorate believes that Obama is a Muslim (birthers, anyone?)……..btw roughly another quarter refused to answer the question or expressed uncertainty. More than half deny his claim to be a Christian. See the new TIME poll: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2011799,00.html

Now, here is the problem. I also understand Martin’s disgust, and the disgust of many others on this forum. I agree that the spirit of this post goes against the American ideal. There is one problem though. There is a massive amount of similar rhetoric across the American heartland. Calling these people idiots, and hateful will do absolutely nothing but raise the stakes. Muslims are in a precarious position in America. One can even draw a parallel between the attitude of Americans towards Japanese after Pearl Harbor. (internment camps)

We live in a very explosive time. Emotions are felt very strongly. People are saying things that they regret. I suggest that it is in the best interest of American Muslims to take very soft, pro-American, and non-confrontational positions in the debate raging today. Why? Because when average Americans get truly angry, logic and reason get thrown aside.

You may not like Suzy’s post – neither do I. Calling her a piece of cat box litter, idiot, hateful and other assorted names gives her exactly the reaction that she expected. Graciousness in the face of hate will win every time.

Somebody’s gotten into the sheep dip and spiked it with Silver Bullet Gun Oil.

(And folks call me a tad unbalanced.)

Wow.

I’m here so that one day I can bury ignorant, bigoted hypocrites like you.

It’s a promise. Now go away and peddle this offensive crap somewhere else.

After all the anti-communism and “Red Scare” after the Russian Revolution, even US troops in Siberia, we had to make nice with the Soviets for most of WWII. It should be remembered the Communist fronts and unions were adamantly opposed to the Allies and their unions here and in Europe did everything they could to thwart the war effort right up to the day Hitler invaded the USSR, whereupon all the leftists started screaming “Second Front Now” and complaining about how the war was being won with Russian blood. We really touted our gallant Russian allies and their leader “Uncle Joe” Stalin, but things got a bit tense as it finally sunk in that they really did mean to dominate all of Europe and challenge us in the Pacific and eventually right in our own territory. Remember, “We will Bury You?”

We had to change our relationship with the Soviet Union and with the communists in our midst and do it within the constraints of a “free” society and our Constitution. We drew the line that you must swear allegiance to our constitution and not advocate the overthrow of the US Government. Lots of people didn’t like that limit on political expression and the Left pushed back hard on loyalty oaths and counter-espionage and I think largely won the battle by the early ’70s. We’ll never know just how much influence the USSR had over the Civil Rights Movement and the Anti-War Movement, and the Nuclear Freeze, and anti-Missle Defense and a whole bunch of other leftist/communist causes, because we just stopped chasing them in the ’70s.

We’ve tried to make peace with Islam and called it a religion of peace with about the same sincerity as we talked about our gallant Russian Allies; nobody with a brain believes the Moslem world wishes us anything but ill just like everyone with a brain knew that the Soviets were only our friend because they were the enemy of our enemy.

We can’t become a totalitarian society because we confront totalitarian enemies, but we do not have to give our enemies a free hand to operate against our interests behind the protections of the Constitution. The theocracy contemplated by Islam and Sharia Law are irreconcilable with the US system of republican democracy. We have to find a way to assure that the Moslems among us are first loyal to our way of life, and if they are not, they need to leave.