1. “Yes we can.”

2. “I won.”

3. The rule of law means less than nothing to anyone in the current administration.

4. Republicans in office are complicit.

These are the people’s seats – Not Obama’s seats.

Yes I’m stupefied! it seems this has been examined and researched since last Tuesday JUST for this very event and yet … NO OUTCRY!~!

Unless those who researched and said it would not be legal are wrong?

WHERE IS OUR LEADERSHIP?

will it truly take pitchforks?

I send an email to Mitch McConnell with the proper justification why Kirk’s votes should be null and void. I doubt that McConnell responds, but I will also email and call George LeMeiux to see if he will do anything about this.

This is illegal! I know Congress is trying to run rampant over our Constitution, but we cannot allow this. Everyone please contact your Senators.

as we were supporting him and sending him our hard earned money. Yes, the Republican leadership needed to speak up. They haven’t shown any sign of that yet. The bigger problem is- Brown has already said that he will “wait” until the Feb. 11 date, I guess that’s when the Sec. of State will certify the vote. He very vocally said that he needed the time to “get his family in order” and to “get a staff in order.” He isn’t in any hurry, even though others in the state have been seated, and voting, within days of their election. Has anyone heard anything from Brown concerning these votes? I didn’t think so. I must wonder how many more votes will come and go before Brown has everything in order to get his butt to Washington.

because those up for re-election have not seen enough of a threat to their re-election chances — not enough conservatives have invaded the Republican Party in the precinct committeeman ranks.

Although, here in Maricopa County, where we went from having only 31 per cent, or 1,989, of the existing 6,231 PC slots filled on Election Day, 2008, to having 3,326, or 53 per cent, filled on Jan. 16, 2010, and almost all of the new PCs coming from the Tea Party and other grass roots organizations, perhaps that’s the reason why John McCain felt the need to start calling PCs months ago, asking for their support. John McCain felt the need to place radio ads on all the conservative talk radio stations, attacking J.D. Hayworth, who wasn’t even an announced candidate. And John McCain felt the need to come on the radio again today to defend the ads he placed on J.D. Hayworth’s old station.

We have to give the incumbent Republican senators some reason to fight, and the BEST way to give them that reason is to make them believe the majority of the grass roots of the Party itself, the precinct committeemen, might not support them. Under the status quo, they have about a 90 per cent probability of getting re-elected. Change the make up the Party, from a half-strength party split about 50-50 in the PC ranks between conservatives and moderates, to a full-strength Party, with a 75-25 ratio in favor of conservatives, and now that re-election probability percentage has gone way down.

Case in point. At the Maricopa County annual meeting in November, 2008, I’m told about 1,100 precinct committeeman attended and voted. I was there and voted. (At that meeting, those 1,100 PCs WERE the Party, not the remaining 693,000 registered Republicans in Maricopa County who were merely registered voters, but not elected precinct committeemen.) The conservative candidate for chairman beat the long-time moderate candidate by only 20 votes. At our annual meeting on Jan. 16, 2010, that same moderate candidate, well-known as a moderate McCain supporter, a former mayor of Chandler, AZ and a sitting Legislative District chairman, ran for one of the five “at large” Executive Guidance Committee positions. Also running were five candidates on a “Conservative Slate,” two of whom had never run for the position and one of whom had become a PC only as recently as 2008. The well-known McCain moderate got less than 6 per cent of the vote, the five “Conservative Slate” candidates received over 82 per cent of the vote and won the five slots.

In other words, the infusion of the over 1,000 new precinct committeemen, most of whom were conservative, joined with the other conservatives already in the Party to vote in new consevative leaders and reject the candidacy of the long-time McCain supporter.

You can see the actual vote tallies here:

http://renewliberty.org/2010/01/16/maricopa-county-republican-committee-mandatory-meeting-held-on-january-16-2010/

Learn more about becoming a precinct committeeman at www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com.

Thank you.
ColdWarrior
No More Scozzafavas.

P.S. One of our conservative state legislators announced a couple of days ago that she was resigning her seat in the state legislature to run for Congress. Guess what? The precinct committeemen get to help decide who ought to fill her vacancy in the legislature. The more conservatives that are PCs in that legislative district, the more likely it will be that the departing state legislator will be replaced with another conservative. Another example of the power of the precinct committeeman.

Remember right before Christmas when McConnell caved on when the HCR vote was going to take place? Some doofus senate staffer got on here and started sanctimoniously and condescendingly chastising all us ‘hayseed hicks’ for being so stupid as to not understand all the nuances and intricacies of power in the halls of Congress.

After getting his a$$ handed to him in no uncertain terms by legions of RSers, I will *never* forget one of his closing statements: “You have *no* idea what we won in those negotiations. The Democrats gave up *lots* in exchange for moving a vote that everyone knew the outcome of by a few hours.” And then he specifically mentioned this debt ceiling vote being a ‘political killer’ for the Dems.

Yeah, wunderkid, this looks like a really politically devastating vote for them. It let them get the whole debt ceiling debacle passed in one fell swoop so that they don’t have to do it again before the election. Now, your feckless leaders *could* have made this a big hairy deal by causing a ruckus about Kirk voting after the election which would have called massive media attention to this massive increase in the debt ceiling at a time when the public has had it up to here with deficits. But no…they opted for the Marques de Queensbury rules AGAIN!

But hey, what do we know…we just hide behind our computer keyboards (another one of his memorable lines) and just can’t understand your genius.

In fact, you guys played won such a huge victory with this because of the sheer brilliance of your tactics that I expect Sun Tzu to raise from the dead any minute so that he can pen the genius of your tactics into the pages of the Art of War.

Idiots!

Kirk is still legally a Senator, despite evidence to the contrary. Why else would the word “former” have been edited out? An explanation seems to be in order.

edited out in the title, also.

We could sum up the reason that GOP senators are allowing Kirk to keep voting with the same word we could use to sum up why there were any republican senators voting today to keep that disgrace Bernanke at his post.

Comity.

Why does it always take a hue and cry from the base to get this guy to do his job?

If none of the republicans bring it up, why should the Democrats care … Illegeal Senators vote all the time, unless of course the Democrtas need to have it the other way.

I would watch the ACORN counters in Massachusetts.

It could be something as simple as it doesn’t make a difference. The votes were not going to change if Brown was there. Several Dems have already spoken out about any chance of further votes on healthcare as being a toxin to their bodies. The Republicans know this, as do the Dems.

So, why stir the pot over this. I don’t know the procedure for certifying him or the time table involved in the process but I am assuming those who are in power do. If Brown thought he was being screwed over, he’d be screaming.

Let’s see what happens. I think the Senate has been given the bloody nose bad enough to back it up for a while.

Is neither bho, democrats nor republicans understand the drop-a-ton-of-bricks-on-my-head messages that we’ve been sending, especially the one in MA! (no caps are intentional)

And bho wants to call the American people stupid? I’m using words from Beck – blood is shooting out of my eyes.

There’s worse things than forcing 60 Democratic Senators to vote to raise the debt ceiling by $1.9 trillion.

Seat Brown and now you are back in that shut-down the government trap that Clinton impaled Gingrich on. Or, a Republican ultimately has to vote to raise the debt ceiling.

Our votes , as citizens of the US, are being devalued by this. Can’ t a citizen sue over this?

Senator Kirk was seated unconstitutionally and there was hardly a whimper.
What republicans put up a fight now, isn’t that a bit late to show some leadership now? Heck, I am soo fed up with this mess for too long.

Of the US Senate from the good state of Massachusetts – Pitchforks and Torches!

It would be nice if the Reid seated Brown the day after his election, as I believe most, if not all of the precedents for non-disputed elections would support, but he has the power to do wait for certification. Fine. That’s politics. Somehow, Bill Owens in NY-23 did not have to wait to be seated in the House before his certification, despite a much closer race. But whatever. The point is, Kirk’s legitimacy as a Senator expired on 1/19 and all bills passed on the basis of his vote are illegitimate testimonies to the lawlessness of the Democrat leadership, and the weakness of the Republican leadership.

Just a thought to ponder: what if Kirk’s vote forms the basis of an argument that the bill is unconstitutional? The constitutional argument would be based on procedural due process, noting that a non-Senator could not procedurally vote to end a Senate filibuster.

Suppose for a moment that the bill is actually held unconstitutional. What happens to all spending that exceeds the previously-approved debt limit? Let the games begin!

BTW, the bill also contains other Demo-goodies, such a restrictions on future tax cuts.

earlier today. Why isn’t the Republican leadership challenging these votes? McConnell needs to go. He is too weak to lead us through 2010!!!! If we are going to win this war, we need leadership and cojones!!!

Since the democratic party went to the far left they quit worrying if something was legal, only if they could get away with it. So far this has happened many times. When liberals control the prosecution process they don’t worry about legality. No fear of being prosecuted means they can do anything they want.

Since they have controlled congress they have cared less about the law and ONLY about spreading their idea of the government running our lives.

This is a good example of why a Political Crimes Tribunal should be established. It would have to be made up of non-politicians and their only purpose would be to go after politicians who have committed crimes while in office just like the War Crimes Tribunal goes after officials who have committed war crimes. If this were in effect now, just think how many of Obama’s people would be brought up on charges!!!

He cares not what the Democrats do in 2010. All of it is campaign fodder for November, and he wants to be Majority Leader. He cares not.

We are in deep, deep stuff. I never thought until TARP that McConnell would sell out Kentucky and America, but he is doing it.

You know how it is, Repubs don’t want to seem pushy and one way to avoid that is by being doormats, plus the NY Times might get angry with them.
Scott Brown wouldn’t want to rush poor Kirk, so crude you know, and it just possible the Dems may like him for it, very important if not likely.
Who knows, Kirk may yet, at this rate, be the 60th vote on HealthCare destruction.

needs to be in. BUT what can WE do? Isn’t it up to the collegial Senate to vote to change their leaders? Doubt if DeMint would fight and run against McConnell probably not a gentlemanly thing to do.

Seriously, is there anything we can do to affect this? Other than begging McConnell to quit?

…I’d just to hear a response or explanation.

The Dems can keep Senator Brown in Mass for at least a month, and much can be done in the meantime.

The Rule should have been invoked on the first vote, as it becomes difficult (though not impossible) later on…but Kirk can sure do a lot og voting in the next several days.

Unconscionable.

I just got off the phone with a staffer a Mitch McConnell’s office who claims they were told the MA election had to be certified and Brown seated before Kirk gives up his vote. I referred them to Fred Barnes Weekly Standard article and explained this was wrong. She simply replied that my comments have been noted and had no idea how grave this is.

I also called my two Senators, Chambliss and Isakson, and both of them said the same thing. Chambliss staffer at least printed out the article and said he was bringing to his senior staffers attention and that Fred Barnes was scheduled to meet with Chambliss later this week. The guy at least seemed to grasp the gravity of this so maybe at least it will be questioned.

I think the Rep’s are simply taking the Dem Mass. state folks at their word that Kirk is still allowed to be voting. This is inexcusable. Everyone needs to be calling there Senators about this.