Even the AP fact checkers agreed with Perry. I haven’t seen any fact checkers that agreed with your statements. You said the WaPo stated that Perry was making up a claim about Romney. I believe this was the same newspaper that said that Perry owed a ranch with a rock that had a objectionable name. Perry does not own a ranch and it was a hunting lease that he had not been to for years. The ranch was owned by a children’s home. So this made up story was by this same media outlet that said Perry was not telling the truth. Sorry, I don’t consider the WaPo as a reliable media outlet.

Tsk, tsk. You should get out more. No, really. Those of us with kids envy the young, and their ability to go places on less than three days’ notice.

Blam.

I’ve heard both sides today depending on the source. All I know is that I personally have seen video where Romney pretty much says that it would be a great model for the rest of the country. Now he’s changed his mind?

you owe me a new monitor

aka as Factcheck.org…………. look for “Blog Roll” about a 3rd of the way down and see the connection. WaPo announced the relationship with the Annenberg Challenged own FactCheck.org

You read lies, the fact is Romney said it and there is video footage on RS and YouTube to support my statement. The liberal infestation of manufactured truth continues.

Governor Perry does not do betting of any kind. It has to do with his religious faith rather than anything else. So he hardly lost his manhood. Maybe they behave differently where you live.

I disagree with your husband. I’m not against betting, but a national debate is not an appropriate venue for that behavior. That’s the kind of thing you do watching a sports event or while having a “discussion” in a bar.

when I saw the debate I thought to myself, Oooo, Perry looked like a coward. And then when everyone was reacting to the amount of the bet, I was sorta stunned. In retrospect, I get why people want to be “outraged” but my initial reaction was that Perry wasn’t confident in his facts, and that’s why he didn’t take the bet.

ps, hooray for perry for looking lucid throughout the whole debate. his meds were working that night.

But…..(You HAD to know there would be a but right?)…Romney trying to paint himself as someone who has experienced hard knocks and pulled himself up by the boot straps is a bit much don’t you think?

I was impressed Mitt had done missionary work….but in my mind, I was thinking of the mosquito and snake infested jungle, or the Serengeti Plain…not Paris for Pete’s sake…and the fact that his little foray into sink baths kept him out of Viet Nam can’t be ignored….but to turn that into the equivalent of growing up on a cotton farm devoid of running water and using an outhouse rather than an indoor toilet is insulting in the extreme….and pathetic on it’s face…

This is pathetic

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson

totally agree on the Kerry analogy!

Streiff’s attacks on Romney are generally right in line with Democrat talking points.

I think that his main beef with Romney is that Romney isn’t “conservative enough” for him. But his tactics in going after Romney are generally based on portraying Romney as being “too wealthy to be in touch with the common man”.

Good luck with Newt, Streiff. And that goes for Erick, too. Every single poll that I’ve seen in the last two weeks has shown that Romney polls better against Obama than Gingrich in every single state.

But the mods here seem to be hell-bent on preventing Romney from being the candidate. Obama is laughing himself to tears right now.

Making Romney a safe Missionary in France at the age of 18.
Great.

Draft dodgers were guys who got drafted and THEN bailed out to Canada.

Romney was a student with a student deferment. Student deferments were good things as the army could have hardly absorbed every 18 year old kid in America. Viet Nam was hardly WWll.

I graduated from high school in ’67 and went to college for the next 4 years. By ’71 we were bringing back more than we were sending over that’s why only the bottom 1/3 of the lottery numbers were even being called in for physicals.

But let me tell you the real story from a guy who was so hard right that I went into the college cafeteria and rounded up 20 hardcore athletes when the effing anti-war hippies were headed to the Admin Building for a sit in. We beat them to the door and told them that anyone of them who tried to enter the building, then or ever, that we would kick their teeth out their a**holes. Thus ended the sitin.

By ’68 the leftwing politicians had decided to lose the war. Every kid that went to Nam was wasting a year and maybe wasting his life. I lost friend over there for no good reason. I have hated the Left ever since and I would have felt privileged to beat every frickin’ leftwing Democrat with a baseball bat from the lying crook LBJ on down. But, I had no desire to waste a year or my life in Nam for a bunch of scumbag politicians.

So don’t call Romney a draft dodger because he was either lucky or smart. There are 55,000 names that shouldn’t be on a wall in DC that far more deserved to be with Romney in Paris.

The draft is an overt and explicit violation of the thirteenth amendment. It’s also a grave injustice that is inhumane and evil, regardless of the threat.

It is specifically banned by the rules of this site.

If you want to chickenhawk Republicans, do it on dKos, TPM cafe or one of the liberal sites.

There are pleny of other Republicans running this year who didn’t serve in Vietnam.

If you’re going to attack candidates’ military credentials, you should at least have the guts to post what your own military background is. It better have some combat experience.

or anything else, only the almighty dollar and his own self-advancement.

what a man.

I am amazed.
Somebody around here has to know something.

and I am Damned sick and tired of this asinine meme…it makes me so mad I can’t stand it.

You and your lame assed excuses is what has driven me from a potential Romney supporter to being a white hot Romney HATER…I hate him and his phone baloney plastic smile and his smarmy I’m not going to go negative on anyone, I’ll send my lackeys out to do that while I play kissey face with my opponents…

You disgust me

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson

(Which according to several stories in the papers this week, his devotion to Mormanism is highly suspect). Romney will say ANYTHING and do ANYTHING to get elected. You can’t trust a word he says about ANYTHING.

I have yet to here it from him, We the people have every right to not want a Mormon as president. I have every right to believe that the things inside their religion may be to extreme for me.

Now this is not the case with me, or anybody I know except a few dozen people at my church. But a person is free to make any reason they want to not support someone. How many people keep sayin gobama is a muslim, and that is probably not true, but if a person believes that, maybe you should go correct them for not liking Obama because he may be a muslum.

People, do not feel sorry if you have a reason to not support someone, you have that right. I am a christian, and I would like someone that I feel will defend my faith, there is nothing wrong with that.

you’ve actually made me notice you. Now toddle off to My Man Mitt and complain about being banned.

Douche.

I was waiting to see if anyone picked up on Streiff’s picture choice. Thankfully I didn’t have to use too many squatty potties myself.

That said, there was one worse option. A “bathroom” with a trough in the floor leading out the back wall… no running water.

Then again… there was worse than that. An alley. A number of times I’d come across an alley that was clearly being used as a public restroom.

China is hick, no matter how much they have been trying to fight that image for years.

I think I would have preferred an outhouse.

Mitt’s description of bathing reminds me of my time around Arabs in London. Only, they weren’t using the tube to bathe. We had a shower. No, the Arab men in our group commandeered a small half-bath and rigged up their own bidet.

Quite annoying and a bit off-putting to go in there after them to use the restroom and find water all over the floor… and knowing why that water was there.

Sigh.

On a tangential note, my one “grievance” with God concerning my body is that I could never join the military – birth defect. It’s a valid reason, but one that always irked me for I felt surely that I could still serve, just not see action (I’m deaf in one ear).

…and no, they are no fun. I agree.

…as there are plenty of options, right now, between Newt and Romney. I personally would have a hard time pulling the lever for either myself also, but thankfully that’s not required.

Maybe, just maybe those who have the most exposure to the candidates know what they are doing. I’m tired of all this doom and gloom. The guy that crosses the line with the checkered flag deserves the nomination. I would be happy with any of them in the White House. However, with Ron Paul I could see another 9/11 happening. Even another 9/11 would do less damage than the current occupant. I suspect lots of volunteers would quit after being yelled at for providing their free labor in the “wrong” way to Bachmann and company.

I don’t care what religion he is as long is he is honest, earnest, and trust-worthy. IF he can pass that test then I will look at where he stands on the issues and whether he would make a good president.

I’m no Mormon, but I hate hypocrisy, and some of you guys on this site have been one big hypocrite 3 times over on the issues.

that weren’t just to get him elected.