Often the opinion pages of the Washington Post foreshadow the line of attack the Democrats will take on particular candidates. I was a little surprised yesterday morning when I read Ruth Marcus’ column entitled Campaign 2012: Welcome to the slugfest. It in, Obamabot David Plouffe (rhymes with fluff) makes a very candid assessment about Mitt Romney that we, ourselves, have made over the years:
“He has no core,” Plouffe said in an unusually sharp attack for a White House official. “You get the sense with Mitt Romney that, you know, if he thought .?.?. it was good to say the sky was green and the grass is blue to win an election, he’d say it.”
Exactly so. And today the Washington Post set out to show how this is true on the front page.
The article is titled As governor, Romney tried to reassure the left and is a must read.
On abortion:
Mitt Romney was firm and direct with the abortion rights advocates sitting in his office nine years ago, assuring the group that if elected Massachusetts governor, he would protect the state’s abortion laws.
Then, as the meeting drew to a close, the businessman offered an intriguing suggestion — that he would rise to national prominence in the Republican Party as a victor in a liberal state and could use his influence to soften the GOP’s hard-line opposition to abortion.
He would be a “good voice in the party” for their cause, and his moderation on the issue would be “widely written about,” he said, according to detailed notes taken by an officer of the group, NARAL Pro-Choice Massachusetts.
“You need someone like me in Washington,” several participants recalled Romney saying that day in September 2002, an apparent reference to his future ambitions.
…
Melissa Kogut, the NARAL group’s executive director in 2002, recalled Wednesday that as she and other participants in the meeting began to pack their belongings to leave after the 45-minute session, Romney became “emphatic that the Republican Party was not doing themselves a service by being so vehemently anti-choice.”The abortion rights supporters came away from the meeting pleasantly surprised. Romney declined to label himself “pro-choice” but said he eschewed all labels, including “pro-life.” He told the group that he would “protect and preserve a woman’s right to choose under Massachusetts law” and that he thought any move to overturn the landmark Roe v. Wade decision would be a “serious mistake for our country.”
Gay marriage
In an Aug. 25, 1994, interview with Bay Windows, a gay newspaper in Boston, he offered this pitch, according to excerpts published on the paper’s Web site: “There’s something to be said for having a Republican who supports civil rights in this broader context, including sexual orientation. When Ted Kennedy speaks on gay rights, he’s seen as an extremist. When Mitt Romney speaks on gay rights he’s seen as a centrist and a moderate.
“It’s a little like if Eugene McCarthy was arguing in favor of recognizing China, people would have called him a nut. But when Richard Nixon does it, it becomes reasonable. When Ted says it, it’s extreme; when I say it, it’s mainstream.”
Climate change
Romney backed incentives for buying efficient vehicles, tougher vehicle emissions rules and mandatory cuts in emissions linked to global warming.
The plan not only called for reducing the state’s overall greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels by 2010 and cutting them another 10 percent by 2020, but it said that “to eliminate any dangerous threat to the climate .?.?. current science suggests this will require reductions as much as 75-85 percent below current levels.”
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In March 2003 he pledged to buy up to $100 million worth
of electricity from renewable sources. That month, he declared, “the global warming debate is now pretty much over.”
Did conservatives learn anything from this? Not really. We’ve long known Romney was an unprincipled flip flopper. In fact, the most cogent defense I’ve seen of a Romney candidacy was made by Michael Gerson who argues, essentially, that Romney has held so many positions that he can’t flip flop anymore. While he may not come up with any new positions, I’m less sanguine than Gerson about him revisiting some old ones.
In fact, I would nearly go so far to say that one of the worst fates that could befall conservatism is that in January 2013 we find ourselves with President Mitt Romney and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. We can survive on or the other, we can’t survive both, and McConnell isn’t going anywhere.
Victoria Coates
Daniel Horowitz
Is Newt the last man standing?
byebyebama Thursday, November 3rd at 11:51AM EST (link)I never liked Perry, used to like Cain, and don’t think Romney can get past his flip flops. Please tell me again why Newt is not an option?
He may be
streiff (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 11:54AM EST (link)I’ve met Newt in a small group setting. He’s uninspiring and really likes for you to know how smart he is. I’d feel comfortable with Newt as a VP if Romney were the top of the ticket, in fact, if anyone was. But I can’t see him as president.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
It is amazing
byebyebama Thursday, November 3rd at 12:00PM EST (link)that at the end of the day we are going to have noone to inspire us. This should have been a slam dunk election.
The problem with Newt
kaheo Thursday, November 3rd at 12:17PM EST (link)Is his marital problems. We all have our failures in life and we as voters shouldn’t demand our leaders to be perfect if we’re not but most of the electorate will still apply a very high moral standard for whom the elect.
Perry seems to be adjusting well to the National limelight, he’s 20% will probably gain major traction now that the 999 plan is out of the way.
He does have the “heartless” sentiments to deal with, but he’s apologized for that. The focus is on the economy so immigration will not take fore front of most debates. Perry has a solid record when it comes to the economic issues. Not the best debater but he’s been improving lately.
If 75% are truly anti-Romney, I find it hard to see why Perry should not be the nominee.
Newt
perry4prez Thursday, November 3rd at 3:07PM EST (link)I do not like Newt’s marital problems but I could get over them if I see a clear sign that he has repented. But he comes across as a bit of a know-it-all sort of in an Algore way. Plus he does not have Executive experience. He is not an “Alpha male” like Perry is. He is missing leadership qualities. I would have absolutely no problem with Mr Newt as the nominee but Perry is a much better choice. And if you are going to complain about Perry on immigration what about Newt on Global Warming?
I'd take Perry anyday over Newt
kaheo Thursday, November 3rd at 5:21PM EST (link)Perry’s immigration is not a big deal for me, infact I probably support him on what he did. However, the crowd boos him everytime he talks about the issue – its probably the loud Romney folks so it shouldn’t be used as indication of the entire primary electorate.
What’s Newt stand on global warming? Was he for it before he was against it!? Like Romney!
Perry inspires me. [NT]
SoFiMil (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 1:44PM EST (link).
www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
I've met Newt a few times as well and always got a positive impression.
Common_Cents (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 12:25PM EST (link)Met him in IA and Ga each a couple times in small groups. He was engaging and courteous. Not at all condescending. He could come across that way on TV at times awhile back but has tempered that greatly during his campaign and the debates.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
Gay Marriage?
goat Thursday, November 3rd at 11:57AM EST (link)I don’t see anything about marriage in your wrongly titled paragraph.
I was going to title it
streiff (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 12:07PM EST (link)“Support of Buggery” but I was fearful of offending
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
You beat me to it, streiff.
Bill S (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 12:01PM EST (link)Someone else emailed that article to me this morning, and it is indeed a must-read. I’m sure we’ll hear the obligatory “You’re using the WaPo as a source?? They are LIBERALS!!!!11!1!” But the facts in that story speak for themselves.
And sorry, Romney fans, but being governor of a liberal state does not give him an excuse to surrender his alleged principles. If Romney really is a conservative, he wouldn’t have been pandering on these key issues. This article simply points out what many of us have stated already – he’s a flipper.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
This why I don't want Romney..
nativetexan41 Thursday, November 3rd at 12:05PM EST (link)He is not to be trusted. Newt can talk all day about nothing and make some people think he has the answers. For me I am voting for Perry. I like his energy independence plan and his flat tax plan.
"Gay Marriage"
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 1:26PM EST (link)Did Romney say he was talking about gay marriage in the quote you list under that subtitle? If so, that would indeed be a flip-flop since he said in that same campaign that he did not want gay marriage. If he didn’t say that, then how does anyone know he was talking about gay marriage?
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
Hey, Ryan, I thought we banned all the Rombots
streiff (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 1:38PM EST (link)isn’t that what your cretinous friends said on their blog and to Politico? Why are you still here? I see your vestigial sense of shame isn’t bothering you. No surprise that. Got some more “open letters”? Want to send them to the Post and Plouffe?
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Look.
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 10:45PM EST (link)I know you’re probably a pretty decent person who lives a good life, but the election is bigger than either you or me. The future of the world is at stake, and there’s a good chance Mitt Romney will be the nominee. I’m not saying Romney is perfect, however I am saying that conservatives need to try their very best to look at him accurately, and that means trying to see things from his point of view. If someone thinks that viewing the facts through the lens of “Romney has no heart and no conscience” is a reasonable default assumption and that viewing the facts through a less cynical lens is somehow “spin,” then that will prevent them from ever viewing Romney objectively.
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
Look
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 10:53PM EST (link)I know you’re probably a pretty decent person who lives a good life, but the election is bigger than either you or me. The future of the world is at stake, and there’s a good chance Rick Perry will be the nominee. I’m not saying Perry is perfect, however I am saying that independents need to try their very best to look at him accurately, and that means trying to see things from his point of view. If someone thinks that viewing the facts through the lens of “Perry has a big heart and no brains” is a reasonable default assumption and that viewing the facts through a less cynical lens is somehow “spin,” then that will prevent them from ever viewing Perry objectively.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
I liked Perry until
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 11:12PM EST (link)he started attacking Mitt with misleading accusations, as outlined in part II of my open letter to RedState.
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ryan.. I give a 3 (facepalm) and an /rollseyes rating...
onemovoter (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 11:26PM EST (link)on saying Perry attacking Mitt with misleading accusations. Come on lets be adult here ok? I admit that both Mitt and Perry have said things without being able to explain the whole situation.
That happens in our “soundbite” driven media that the candidates have to usually go through. It is up to the candidates to keep their message ON message while responding to other candidates. By the time they go up against the Obama machine, they will have to be good.
I am pledging to myself that my posts here will be balanced and call BS when I do see it on all sides. Want to join me?
“Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do.”- Benjamin Franklin
“I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.”- Will Rogers
What do you mean?
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:02AM EST (link)Are you saying the examples I gave are not actually instances of Perry being misleading? You can roll your eyes all you want, but unless you take a stand on what I said and defend that stand, I won’t know what you’re talking about.
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ryan Larsen, are you saying that the Boston Globe
retire05 Thursday, November 3rd at 11:29PM EST (link)lied about Romney hiring a fellow church member who owned “Lawn Service With A Heart” to do his lawn and the guy used illegals? Are you saying that Romney, although advised by the Globe in Dec. 2006, when he was still governor, had no responsibility to turn the lawn service into ICE for the hiring of illegals which is against federal law?
Sorry, buddy, but that dog won’t hunt. Romney not only knew about the companies policies of hiring illegals, he was quoted as “giving them a second chance.” Romney had a duty, as govornor, to turn that company into to the Immigration Service and he didn’t do it.
Take your pimping for a northeastern liberal (Romney) somewhere else.
retire05
Like I've already told you,
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:03AM EST (link)It was a big news story at the time so there was no need for Romney to alert anyone. If legal action was not taken, that’s not Romney’s fault.
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
So Chief Executive Mitt was aware of a crime...
acat (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:20AM EST (link)and you don’t see a problem with a lack of legal action?
Just making sure I understand your statement.
Mew
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{sigh} Very well. O.O
acat (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:06AM EST (link)Okay, I’ve looked at Romney.
I haven’t voted for worse yet, but at least he’s not Ron Paul.
Now, would you post the next segment of your digging into Kjellander?
I’ve pointed you in the right direction.
Mew
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Maybe he should have offered this, Ryan.
gekster (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 1:39PM EST (link)Romney gay marriage tmeline
•Jan. 2, 2006 Boston Globe reports Romney issued special Governor’s ceremonial marriage licenses to 189 same-sex couples in 2005 (including to homosexual activist state senator), claiming he did not refuse because he was evenly applying the “statute”. [Note: There is no new statute establishing same-sex marriage.]
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
The key word there is "new"
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:07PM EST (link)There were no “new” statutes, but there were statutes relating to the issuance of marriage licenses. The court defined “marriage” and therefore defined the use of the word in law. This is sort of like Roe which created a “right” to abortion on demand. After that, states issued permits and such to those who practiced abortion.
It was a terrible court decision handed down in MA. That’s why Romney opposed it.
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
actually Roe did no such thing
streiff (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:17PM EST (link)But Romney likes it anyway
Yeah, killing babies would be a serious mistake
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
If you want my opinion on that
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 11:10PM EST (link)I would refer you to the open letter I wrote, part III.
As far as Roe goes, it depends on what is meant by “abortion on demand,” and it also depends on whether we’re dealing with a “right” in terms of stare decisis or a “right” in terms of codification. Roe has not been codified in most states, but they adhere to the opinion of Roe in similar cases and in that sense it created a right.
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
So if he is against gay marrage,
gekster (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:20PM EST (link)then why did he issue the liscences.
Having it both ways again?
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
Ummm Ryan, if Romney was so opposed to gay marriage
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:29PM EST (link)and the “terrible court decision”, why didn’t he appeal it?
I believe the lawyers involved did try to appeal
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 11:04PM EST (link)But the decision was handed down by the MA Supreme Court, and I don’t believe the U.S. Supreme Court likes to get involved in state high court decisions. Because the MA Supreme Court has a right to interpret the MA Constitution.
Romney wanted an amendment to the MA Constitution to undo the court decision. He fought for one.
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
The SCOTUS is…
vaaztx Thursday, November 3rd at 11:23PM EST (link)…the Court of final appeal and state Supreme Court decisions are often appealed to the SCOTUS. The power of the Supreme Court to consider appeals from state courts, rather than just federal courts, was created by one Congress’ first laws the Judiciary Act of 1789. That ability for SCOTUS to have appellate review over the state Supremes was upheld early in the Court’s history, by its rulings in the 1816 decision Martin v. Hunter’s Lessee and the 1821 decision Cohens v. Virginia.
You didn't contradict anything I said.
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Friday, November 4th at 11:50PM EST (link)nt
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
Only for federal issues...
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Friday, November 4th at 11:59PM EST (link)But when has that ever not been true?
Article 3 reads in part:
States interpret federal law all the time. Of course there’s federal jurisdiction there. But they can’t review issues arising exclusively under state law.
OK Ryan, I got it. Romney didn't have the courage to
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 8:08PM EST (link)file an appeal because SCOTUS might not have taken the case. So his preferred solution was an amendment to MA constitution that any – and in this case it ANY!!! – fool would know has no chance of passing.
So, you’ve established that Romney not only has no core beliefs (other than he should be President) he’s also dumb as a box of rocks.
Hey Ryan Larsen, didn't we ban all the Romney supporters
streiff (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:34PM EST (link)want to explain how you’re still here? Are your friends going to post retractions?
The last was a rhetorical question.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Romney supporters
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 10:51PM EST (link)I don’t think anyone claimed you banned all Romney supporters. Free Republic does that. I think the claim was that you ban Romney supporters for no objective reason. If you disagree with that claim, you can provide an objective reason for banning Phil.
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ryan Larsen, if Romney opposed gay marriage
retire05 Thursday, November 3rd at 11:31PM EST (link)why did he nominate two gay lawyers to the MA bench who supported gay marriage? Oh, and who were Democrats?
retire05
Have you read my response?
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Friday, November 4th at 11:55PM EST (link)It’s in part III of my open letter. I don’t want to keep repeating it, but if you’re really curious you can go look it up.
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
Please tell the room what your thoughts are on Romney's "illegals" statement.
sunshinek67 (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:01AM EST (link)—
He'll just say read his open letter (1,2,3) sunshine.
gekster (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:08AM EST (link)Or tell you to go to his website Romneythespinner.com.
Someone else wrote his diaries, and he doesn’t know what’s in them.
That’s why he won’t, or can’t answer basic questions about Romney.
He is just a shill.
And he changed from coming here during the day to posting only at night,
hopeing no one will see him sneek in.
I wouldn’t waste my time on him.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
oh, I was just curious why he didn't respond to the "ILLEGALS" comment,
sunshinek67 (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:16AM EST (link)no worries~
Keep asking sunshine, who knows. nt
gekster (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:19AM EST (link).nt.nt.nt.nt.nt
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
You are not going to be able to explain the "illegals" statement made by Romney
sunshinek67 (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:04AM EST (link)Because deep down you know that your guy is a fraud that will say anything and everything to get elected. Mitt Romney’s America video is damning. Republicans need a better candidate to go up against Barack Obama.
Because Mitt Romney makes a calculated decision to say and do anything that will help him get votes.
sunshinek67 (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:06AM EST (link)You wouldn’t ever see Rick Perry issuing civil union certificates.
So Wrong Its Sad
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:30AM EST (link)I’ve read this propaganda, put together by a bunch of zealots, a bunch of times. I cant believe so many conservatives are suckers for it.
Constitutional protections don’t need enabling legislation. The SJC made its ruling in accordance with the state Constitution.
By way of example, to follow this logic is to assume the following:
Obama and the Pelosi Congress bans handguns. The Supreme court rules that the right to carry handguns is protected under the Constitution. ( the judicial branch is not suppose to legislate from the bench. Its a conservative creed.) Just because the legislature acts or doesn’t act doesn’t mean the right in nullified. The right exists, regardless of legislative or executive action or inaction. The same is true under the MA Constitution.
Rights protected by the Constitution are supreme. They trump legislation. They don’t need enabling legislation. Those idiots from Mass Resistance are borderline brain dead.
Its such a dumb argument, its bewildering. The SJC made its ruling in accordance with the Massachusetts Constitution. Some nuts wanted Romney to defy the ruling. Yet, even Reagan and Bush enforced abortion law as chief executives. People don’t say Ragan is pro-choice because he didn’t ignore and defy the Supreme Court.
Again, its such a dumb argument its bewildering.
Even after the Court made its ruling, Romney supported a drive for a Constitutional Convention and supported an amendment to the Constitution support traditional marriage. He fought the good fight.
For some people to be so consumed with Romney hatred that they cant even recognize the supremacy of Constitutional rights over legislation is sad, just sad.
True
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:10AM EST (link)I was in the trenches with Romney during the gay marriage fight; he fought the good fight. Back in 1994, when he ran for senate, gay marriage wasn’t even on the table. Its shameful to imply otherwise.
And I think its ironic that so many people want to go back ten years to dig up pro-choice stories on Romney that everyone learned about in 2008. Yet, Romney ran as a pro-life candidate in 2008, but in 2008 it was Rick Perry who shunned Fred, Huckabee and McCain to support the only social liberal in the race; the NARAL award winning Rudy Guiliani. That was just three short years ago. Hmm.
better to lose in 2012?
bennymoten Thursday, November 3rd at 1:44PM EST (link)“One of the worst fates that could befall conservatism is that in January 2013 we find ourselves with President Mitt Romney and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell…And McConnell isn’t going anywhere.”
It’s a very short step from that argument to this one:
“With Romney as the nominee, the GOP would be better off to lose in 2012. Then, it would be crystal clear that the only way forward for the party is to nominate a True Conservative.”
So in 2007 many said, "better to lose in 2008".
NightTwister (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 1:58PM EST (link)This was due to the dislike of McCain. Now, we’re in 2011, and many are saying “better to lose in 2012″ than get stuck with Mitt Romney.
Let me guess, in 2015 when you don’t like the knife fights in the primaries and your preferred candidate isn’t chosen, you’ll say, “better to lose in 2016.”
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say it’s the same people saying it every time too.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
we supported McCain in 2008
streiff (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:12PM EST (link)we didn’t like him but we believed on most things, other than Campaign Finance, that he had good instincts and was colorably conservative.
I don’t know what the site will do in 2012 if Romney is the nominee. I suspect we’ll support him with less enthusiasm than we had for McCain.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
I'm not talking about the site in general
NightTwister (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:20PM EST (link)I’m talking about people that said we’d be better off with 4 years of Obama rather than get McCain. Now people are saying we’d be better off with another 4 years of Obama than Mitt.
Say what you will about MItt, he’d still be better than a term-limited Obama, just as McCain would’ve been better than first-term Obama.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
I am prepared for Nominee Romney.
acat (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:22PM EST (link)Mew
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acat, best to order a bunch of those...
onemovoter (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:26PM EST (link)and make a bundle reselling them for a profit.
At least up until the non-romney wins nomination.
“Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do.”- Benjamin Franklin
“I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.”- Will Rogers
acat, I really enjoy your posts
Ryan Larsen (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 1:40AM EST (link)even when I disagree. Thank you for being a contributor here!
“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
Cats lick their own butts
Tbone (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 2:03AM EST (link)or weren’t you aware of that Ryan?
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
I just don't know that a President McCain
streiff (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:39PM EST (link)and a Democrat Congress would have been any better for us than what happened. McCain was an “my turn” candidate like Bob Dole. He wasn’t going to fight over anything. We’d probably have fewer regulations but can you imagine the psychic energy it would have taken for the right blogosphere to get up each day and defend McCain?
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Fewer regulations would mean more jobs.
NightTwister (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 3:39PM EST (link)That would mean a lot to people that lost everything. I still would’ve happened to some, but not as many.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
McCain has a better record on spending
thirstyboots Friday, November 4th at 12:58AM EST (link)than most conservatives in and out of Washington DC.
The problem most had with McCain was more his opposition to many of the Bush policies (namely how he went after the grossly incompetent Rumsfeld) and his willingness to compromise in the Senate with Democrats.
There's a strong argument for never
jakeofalltrades (Diary) Saturday, November 5th at 12:09AM EST (link)voting for a liberal Republican. If it were anyone but Obama II we’re talking about, I would say it’s a great opportunity to teach the establishment a lesson. Unfortunately he is so toxic to the country that it is every American’s patriotic duty to vote against him.
Would Romney be better than Obama?
bonnman Friday, November 4th at 12:37AM EST (link)Probably. But would Romney be better for the conservative message? Doubt it. And that I think is the problem. Committing to Romney isn’t just for the next four years but potentially the next eight and so do we really want Romney as the top conservative voice for almost an entire decade? That question makes lots of conservatives very very nervous.
Agreed.
thirstyboots Friday, November 4th at 1:00AM EST (link)It’s still a lot better than any of the alternatives though.
It’s a lesson for those who pushed Pawlenty out and didn’t fight for Daniels or Christie to enter the race because they were happy with the “red-meat” know-nothings like Perry or Bachmann.
Red-meat know-nothings
jrmax13 Friday, November 4th at 1:10AM EST (link)thirstyboots, I love that name red meat know nothings. Clever.
Perry/Keyes 2012 ?
Erick Erickson supported Romney over McCain in the primary
thirstyboots Friday, November 4th at 12:54AM EST (link)Same is true for the majority of the front-pagers and the large majority of the readers.
that really isn't the argument
streiff (Diary) Thursday, November 3rd at 2:09PM EST (link)which is contained in the part of my graf you decided was too much trouble to cut and paste.
The argument is that if we can win the Senate we would have to deal with a weather vane in the White House and a Senate Majority Leader who is basically hostile to conservatives.
It isn’t about a “true conservative”, I don’t even know what one is. It is about having the White House and the Senate controlled by people who dislike conservatives.
With Obama in the White House, McConnell has an interest in at least appearing conservative.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Romney is the best hope we have for
iidvbii Saturday, November 5th at 4:25AM EST (link)a third party to enter the race. I mean there isn’t an inch of daylight between Romney and obama on any of the major issues.
Governments role in the economy:
Governments role in healthcare:
Government entitlements:
Judicious Appointees:
Cap and Trade:
Regulatory Philosophy:
The Homosexual Agenda:
Abortion On Demand:
Pick any issue and compare non presidential candidate Romney’s positions with those of Rick Perry and Barack Obamas .
Honestly (that’s the tricky word for Romney supporters) who does he match up closer to? On most issues Romney could write obamas teleprompter script right out of his own statements.
I for one dont see a vote for Romney as a vote against what Obama stands for. It’s hypocrisy and frankly racist (It’s ok for the white guy to have these beliefs) . Yeah I said it. LOL….
In the final analysis will our children praise or curse our actions this day?
The Appeasement Vote
MrTom Sunday, November 13th at 10:16PM EST (link)Romney gets the appeasement vote. There are always some people that believe giving in to the enemy will bring you some peace. Google “Neville Chamberlain + leadership” to see some examples of the popularity of appeasement.
But if Republicans want any kind of future, they will choose a man like Herman Cain or Newt Gingrich. These are really the choices that will become obvious in the coming months.