Politico Editor Hails Cheap Slander As “Heroic Internet Journalism.”


we are journalists and we are cool with killing American soldiers

I was intrigued

benpolitico RT @gabrielsnyder: Heroic internet journalism: http://www.collateralmurder.com/ Worth reading WaPo’s original report 1st: http://is.gd/bfW5h

http://twitter.com/benpolitico/status/11657189742

What could Politico’s Ben Smith have found that was so courageous?

Back in the summer of 2007, back when America still had a president that was proud of his nation, US troops were engaged in combat operations in Baghdad against the militia of Moqtada al-Sadr. The fighting was confused, as urban fighting tends to be. From the Washington Post :

BAGHDAD, July 12 — U.S. soldiers in eastern Baghdad clashed with Shiite militiamen on Thursday, leaving at least 11 Iraqis dead and an unknown number injured, including two children hit by shrapnel from a U.S. helicopter attack, according to American soldiers who took part in the mission.

The intensive six-hour operation began at 6 a.m., when 240 U.S. soldiers in 65 Humvees, several Bradley Fighting Vehicles and two Apache attack helicopters descended on the al-Amin neighborhood, along with a dozen Iraqi troops, in response to increasing attacks on American soldiers by members of the Mahdi Army, the Shiite militia loyal to cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.

During the fighting, an Apache helicopter fired bursts of 30mm rounds toward several people who had been directing machine-gun fire and rocket-propelled grenades at U.S. soldiers. The helicopter also fired on a silver Toyota minivan in the area as several people approached the vehicle, soldiers said.

Two of the civilians killed during the fighting were with the Reuters news service. Photographer Namir Noor-Eldeen, 22, and driver Saeed Chmagh, 40, were killed in what a preliminary Iraqi police report described as a “random American bombardment,” Reuters reported. The U.S. military said it has opened an investigation into the killings.

What has Ben Smith all gaga is the release of nearly 40 minutes video of uncertain provenance, I say uncertain not because it might be inauthentic but because the hosting website “collateral murder dot com” implies but doesn’t say it was leaked but Reuters has had a long standing FOIA request in for the same video, which shows the incident. A shortened version is below.

The hosting website huffs a lot about analysis and rules of engagement (ROE) and gives the impression that a heinous crime of some sort has been committed, covered up by THE MAN, and now revealed by the valiant Fourth Estate.

If you look at the video you see the two Reuters employees are embedded with a group of armed insurgents. One of the men is carrying a camera and another a cell phone. The gaggle mopes down a deserted street while, unbeknownst to them, they are under observation from at least two AH-64 Apache helicopters. The lead pilot confirms the group is armed (go to 3:30 to pick up the target identification images and audio), asks permission to engage which he receives as 4:50 leaving little more than hair, teeth, and eyeballs scattered on the street.

When viewed in any context, especially in the context of the rules of engagement in force at the time one is at a loss to understand the outrage that we are supposed to be witnessing.

The story is simple. A US news organization, Reuters, sent two of its employees out with the Mahdi Army to get video of American soldiers being killed to better carry out its editorial policy of hooting about US casualties in Iraq as a way of damaging the Bush Administration and to make some money in the process. Things didn’t work out very well for Reuters and their two guys got killed along with a dozen or so Mahdi thugs. Tough luck.

Now on to Ben Smith’s noxious tweet.

First, this is not journalism. In a best case scenario this is indistinguishable from a college kid posting an upskirt video on YouTube. In a worst case scenario, this video was released under FOIA and the site in question has done nothing other than post the fruits of someone else’s labor. Conveniently for us, inconveniently for them, they have also posted the ROE.

If anything the video demonstrates the extremes to which the pilots went to follow the rules of engagement. (Go to 7:40 and watch until about 8:50.)

Smith also tries to give the impression that the initial WaPo story was wrong. If anything, the video demonstrates how accurate their reporting was in this particular instance.

Contrary to what the press seems to want us to think, being a reporter doesn’t give you some kind of a magic shield that keeps you from being killed in a combat zone. Some of the reporters killed in Iraq have simply been stupid. Leaning out of a window, pointing a video camera at a tank is not a particularly good evolutionary strategy.

More to the point, the press in the Iraq War ceased to be chroniclers of events and undertook an active role on the side of the Mahdi Army and the insurgency. McClatchey deliberately skewed its reporting to hurt the war effort. The AP not only used fraudulent sources to report non-existent events but actually embedded its reporters with Mahdi Army hit squads. Some AP stringers have been tried as terrorists in Iraq.

The two men you see killed in the video were as much enemy combatants as the men carrying automatic weapons. They made a decision, ill advised as it turned out, that it would be a real adventure to accompany the Mahdi Army into combat and see some infidels killed.

There is a scandal here. The scandal is that Reuters blithely sent two employees into combat against American troops and got them killed. The scandal is that Reuters has the chutzpah to play the victim when they were the perpetrator of the event. The scandal is that guys like Ben Smith hail posting a YouTube video as “heroic internet journalism” without taking the time to either familiarize themselves with the story or to watch the video. The scandal is that young Americans have their lives put in jeopardy by these… these… whatever… who are so devoid of a sense of shame that they try to make a completely justified, and one might say restrained, use of force in a combat zone into an indictment of the Armed Forces.



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Well said. nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 10:22AM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 

markos moulitsas Unavailable for Comment?

jimmuy8 (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 10:23AM EST (link)

Surely, his eloquence would be fitting here?

Maybe, “I feel nothing for them, they’re mercenaries, F### ‘em?”

 

The tide in this country is turning....

The_Rebel (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 10:28AM EST (link)

and I believe the majority of Americans who see or hear about this will have little sympathy for these so-called journalists. Your diary, streiff, is evidence of the power of the new media.

 

I guess we're supposed to be outrageously outraged by that video...

Mary Beth (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 10:31AM EST (link)

…but I find myself incredibly proud of our guys. They did their job and they did it well.

It is not their fault that there were reporters embedded with the enemy…any more than it’s their fault the enemy brought children into the battle field.

I saw that bit at the end with the arrows pointing to the supposed children…but I didn’t notice them the first time and I doubt our guys did either. Neither did I see cameras strapped to the reporters…only a device with a strap. And since they were with terrorists, “device with a strap” = weapon.

So thank you, soldiers, for doing your job with honor, integrity and resolve.

And Ben Smith and all those like him can shove it.

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

 

Absolutely -nt

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 10:35AM EST (link)

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 

Yep, that is what happens in a war zone.

Tbone (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 10:43AM EST (link)

Perhaps one should stay out of them.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 

Looks Good To Me

tom246 Tuesday, April 6th at 10:45AM EST (link)

Hey from what I saw this is a good kill, what’s the problem? Oh I know it isn’t as sanitized as the Bleeding Hearts think it should be. The saying that sums up my feelings is “Once armies are engaged war is total -or should be”. Here’s another way of putting it “KILL ‘EM ALL, LET GOD SORT ‘EM OUT!! But then I’m second generation retired Military in case you couldn’t tell.

We all of course "regret bitterly the necessity for taking human life,"

weatherford Tuesday, April 6th at 2:42PM EST (link)

but better theirs than ours.

I dont play video games, and those on line under fire are not playing at anything.

General Lee pretty much got it down to one sentence: “It is well that war is so terrible, else we would grow to fond of it.”

 
 

Excellent Streiff

fpete13527 (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 11:27AM EST (link)

Thanks for showing the complete scum that Politico, Smith, and all the state-run media are by endorsing this as “heroic journalsim.” I would better characterize the journlists as slime mold fungus.

In the early days of the Iraqi invasion, al-Sadr turned what could have been a hard, but doable, rebuilding of Iraq into an eight-year blood bath.
Almost singlehandedly, and with military assistance from Iran, al-Sadr was more responsible for both the long delay and American casualties in Iraq than any other single factor, IMO.

For these news organizations (infestations) to relish going in to a battle with Sadr’s terrorists to oppose US Forces (basically to show that the US are bad guys), and to be proud of it, makes me want to throw up. I had many friends there who were either seriously injured or killed because of scum al-Sadr. I gurantee you that there is no good side about him. He is pure cowardly scum.

I truly hope that all the news organizations (infestations) involved here are exposed and humiliated…..although they probably won’t be.

It has been more than clear for a long time that the state run media in this country want the US to fail and to turn 100% socialist. However, for them to actually go into a fight against US forces on the ground, and high-five it, is beyond all forms of humanity.

The state-run media in this country, in this case starting with Ben Smith and the progressive Politico, need to hang their heads in disgrace. The American state-run media are truly the lowest form of life on the planet right now.

Thanks again Streiff for bringing this out. A lot of guys paid a high price to confront Sadr in the early days of OIF in a no win scenerio…..because of the cowardly, pahtetic, US state-run media. The pathetic state-run media has now gotten even worse. I didnt think that was possible. It clearly is.

 

Would the AP have embedded staff with the Germans or Japanese

renny (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 11:44AM EST (link)

during WW II?

Maybe we could take a time machine back and place the entire MSM on some quiet place like Iwo Jima and then let the Marines do their job.

There are plenty of WWII journalists who wouldn't have been nearly so patriotic

Achance (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 12:00PM EST (link)

had Germany not invaded the Soviet Union. Until June 22, 1941, most of the media and the elites were either isolationist or pro-German since Germany and the USSR were allies. Unions and other leftwing groups in Europe were actively sabotageing and thwarting British and French war production. Then overnight when Barbarossa began, they all shouted in unison, “Second Front Now” and began criticizing The West for not doing enough to help the Soviets.

So, factor in that much of the elite and media support for WWII was support for communism and the Soviet Union. It should also be noted that the USSR only declared war on Japan at the very end and there is a good argument that Soviet territorial grabs were a strong motivator in the US desire to end the war with Japan as quickly as possible.

In Vino Veritas

Crispy Critters, anyone? nt

weatherford Tuesday, April 6th at 3:10PM EST (link)
 
 

Treason reaches into every...

Kudzu (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 11:46AM EST (link)

facet of American life.

I am tired of the leftists attacks on my comrades and myself, its disgusting and makes us cringe with disdain for the very people we’re supposed to defend. This video, just bypass the articles associated with it, shows an engagement that had already begun as the Apaches arrive on scene to provide close air support. It shows them discussing the very ROE and restraint that we have imposed on us in counterinsurgency, the very same that I exercised more than once. Its confusing and with troops in contact its life threatening. Actions must be taken to ensure American lives are not lost, not even at the expense of a mistake, despite the morale and morally crushing consequences they may have.

The left thinks we kill indiscriminately and has always thought that. Harry Reid thought. Barak Obama thought it. John Murtha thought it… you name any prominent Socialist Party politician and they assume we’re a bunch of blood thirsty mongrels or worse that we’re incompetent naive and just confused human beings barely worth feeding a scrap of meat to.

This article, its supporters, and everyone associated with passing this off as “creditable” journalism are guilty of treason by giving aid and comfort to the enemy and doing so in a time of war.

It always did take two of you to take down one of me. – Jo Bob Priddy, North Dallas Forty.

Now on at http://kudzu630.wordpress.com/

 

Sorry for them, they knew the risks.

svenhoek Tuesday, April 6th at 11:53AM EST (link)

It’s not like the Servicemen in that video had our little arrows, pointing out who was a terrorist and who wasn’t. All they saw was a strap with something nearly weapon sized attached to it. I mean one of the terrorists had an RPG for God’s sake, I could see it plainly in the video before they even pointed it out on their comm. What were they supposed to do? Go away? Let ground troops come in and make sure that everyone is who they say and look like they are before firing a round? Does the left just misunderstand the whole concept of war?

Trying to understand their outrage is trying to rationalize an irrational person’s logic. They see what they want to see, and nothing more. Before they even saw this video they had their mind made up on it. Of course they will try and twist the images and context to fit their psyche’s idea of what happened. We are evil, whether they have RPGs and weapons or not.

Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
-Benjamin Franklin

 

Same old, same old

RedBeard Tuesday, April 6th at 12:13PM EST (link)

Another leftie with a forum, enjoying the opportunity to denigrate our military. Too bad Smith couldn’t get a comment from Jack “Cold Blood” Murtha to round out his gleeful presentation.

Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.

 

Yeah, I'm a knuckle dragging neanderthal who makes our ranks look bad.

The_Gadfly (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 12:45PM EST (link)

But I wouldn’t be shedding a tear for those so-called journalists even if it had been clear they were unarmed. Fellow travelers of terrorists deserve the same as the terrorists, even when they are “providing an unbiased view.”

 

It's a little detail, I know, but...

USNJIMRET (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 1:34PM EST (link)

ROI is generally the abbreviation for Return on Investment, a Financial term.
ROE is the abbreviation for Rules of Engagement.
As I said, a small detail, but proper ‘reporting’ is comprised, IMO, of all the details being accurate.
As for reporters, journalists, stringers, camera folk and everyone else associated with the LSM and their transparent efforts to damage the war effort…..I feel no sympathy for any of them killed or injured ‘covering’ a war. As svenhoek noted, there are ‘risks’ associated with all aspects of combat. Seems to me that embedding yourself with the less capable military force just uncreases the risk.
But, as they say, “It’s a free country”. Make all the damn stupid decisions you want. Just don’t expect sympathy from some of us when the near certain consequences arrive.

we fired all the proof readers in a cost cutting move

streiff (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 1:40PM EST (link)

so I can’t blame anyone but myself for that boneheaded mistake. I really do know better.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

 
 

Huh.

DefendUSA (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 2:05PM EST (link)

War is hell and thank God for our guys sending terrorist gut into the mist. They got what was coming to them. Period.
They wanna play with the big guns, and don’t like the consequences , they can go cry to the 77 virgins.

*starred thought*
To be a leader is to do the uncomfortable thing. Man up, Mr. President.

 

Ben Smith and Politico

Adjoran (Diary) Tuesday, April 6th at 4:32PM EST (link)

are a bunch of anti-American leftist hacks.

The “journalists” killed were in an area fully controlled by al Sadr’s militia. They could only be there if they were cooperating with the militia.

You lay down with dogs, don’t complain about the fleas.

 

In modern journalism...

daendda Tuesday, April 6th at 9:32PM EST (link)

Watching an 8 minute FLIR video makes you an expert in Law of War and the Iraq War. Why aren’t these guys on the front lines fighting for us? They should be more concerned about why the “journalists” chose to associate with these thugs who are marked for death by simply carrying RPGs in this area.

There is no doubt in my mind that was an RPG. That is exactly the tactic insurgents in “9 Nisan” used. Every RPG shot I was involved with was fired down a side street from behind a corner about 200m away. A buddy of mine had to pay the death gratuity to this so called “journalist’s” family. It was more than they deserved.