In his Meditation XVII, known to most of us as No Man Is An Island, John Donne opined that any man’s death diminishes us all. As Mr. Donne preceded Jack Murtha by nearly four centuries he can be forgiven the broadness of this statement.
Jack Murtha was a profoundly destructive force in American politics. His legislative efforts were limited to lining the pockets of himself, his family, and assorted cronies. For all of his woofing about being sympathetic to the men and women of the Armed Forces he did not author a single piece of legislation in his career which did anything other than milk the Department of Defense for money.
Murtha did lead a charmed life. In Vietnam, as seems de rigeur among Democrat politicians who served there, he managed to acquire two Purple Hearts without spending a single day in the hospital. Likewise, he picked up a Bronze Star with V device as a battalion intelligence officer. As a member of Congress he was up to his eyeballs selling his influence to all comers and was captured on video by the FBI. For reasons that have never been real clear, Murtha was allowed to skate while he testified against two colleagues.
One would say that the real shame of Murtha’s congressional tenure took place in the past 6 years when he attempted to burnish his anti-war credentials for a run at a congressional leadership position at the expense of the men and women engaged in combat. He publicly declared the Marines charged with murder in connection with alleged killings at Haditha were guilty (they have since been acquitted or the charges have been dropped) and he described General David Petraeus as a political hack
All respect to Mr. Donne, none of us are diminished by the death of Jack Murtha. He was a man of few if any redeeming public attributes, he pillaged the treasury to enrich himself, he tarnished the reputation of good men, and he was a blight on the body politic. The nation is better off, not for his death but for his absence from its political life.
Steve Maley
KnightsofMalta
This about covers it. Well said. (nt)
Third Street (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 4:51PM EST (link)“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
We Forget So Quickly
winghunter1 Wednesday, February 10th at 11:29AM EST (link)The Rest of Murtha’s FBI Tape
ABSCAM tapes – Murtha: “Well, let me find out what is a reasonable figure that will get their attention,” said Murtha, “because there are a couple of banks that have really done me some favors in the past, and I’d like to put some money in….["]
http://spectator.org/archives/2006/07/12/the-rest-of-murthas-fbi-tape
Stick it to him: Marine files suit against Murtha
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/stick-it-to-him-marine-files-suit-against-murtha/
Murtha: You know who’s pretty racist? My constituents
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/15/murtha-you-know-whos-pretty-racist-my-constituents/
Jack Murtha: Veteran Ex-Marine Hero or Lying Cowardly Crybaby REMF?
http://wambulance.blogspot.com/2006/06/jack-murtha-veteran-ex-marine-hero-or.html
“Educate and inform the whole mass of the people…they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” – Thomas Jefferson
Prayers to the Murtha's...
IronDioPriest (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 4:57PM EST (link)That Jack made atonement before God prior to his passing, and that his loved ones left behind are comforted by their loss.
“If we finally fail in this great and glorious contest, it will be by bewildering ourselves in groping for the middle way.”
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On the other hand,
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 10:12PM EST (link)I trust that he will stand before the White Throne and hear “depart, I’ve never known you”. I also hope that if his family doesn’t have the common courtesy to apologize to the Haditha Marines and their families that they never have a moment of peace.
Yes. I have to say...
Charles Cianfrocca (Diary) Tuesday, February 9th at 11:16AM EST (link)Were I able to convince myself that such a man as Murtha could ever have atoned to the satisfaction of mankind’s Judge, I should be unburdened to the point of insouciance as to my own prospects for eventual salvation.
For the sake of all of us, may it be so.
“Get your hand out of my pocket. Ain’t nothin’ there that belongs to you.”
- Sonny Boy Williamson
mbecker908, this is wrong.
Cheetah772 (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 4:06PM EST (link)How do you know Murtha didn’t accept Jesus Christ as his personal Savior during his lifetime? White Throne Judgment is only for those who have rejected Jesus as their personal Savior.
Trust me when I say this, both liberals and conservatives alike will face Jesus at the White Throne Judgment. There are plenty of conservatives who have not accepted Jesus as their personal Savior, or are practicing the wrong kind of religion.
As for me, I would hope that even some of his closest family members and friends will finally reason that the only way to Heaven is through the precious blood of Jesus Christ who died for all of our sins and rose on the third day to defeat the power of death once for all.
Let’s not be bitter over this thing. Even the worst kind of enemy can turn out to be our greatest advocate — look at Paul who was a murderer, but converted to one of the chiefest apostles for Christ.
Don’t be surprised to find some people in Heaven that perhaps most of us thought would be in the everlasting Lake of Fire for one very simple reason: at one point during their lifetime, they decided to accept Christ as their personal Savior. Of course, it doesn’t mean a born-again Christian will lead a perfect Christian life free of reproach or bad testimony, but his place is assured in Heaven.
All born-again Christians will face the Judgment Seat of Christ, this is where we will receive rewards for our works on the Earth. All of us from the least to the great will be judged on the basis of how we walk in Christ during our lifetimes. I would urge you to be less bitter and consider this an important lesson in harboring love for all types of people, even those whom we despise the most.
Daniel 2:20 And he [God] changeth the times and seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding.
Cheetah, does it seem likely that a man who lied,
janis (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 4:39PM EST (link)cheated, and stole from his own countrymen was a man who accepted Jesus Christ as his Savior? Because my understanding of that process is that you make atonement for your sinful ways and then vow to walk in the footsteps of Jesus ever afterward.
So far as I know, that would not include deliberately lying about soldiers who served this country with honor, nor would it include sticking your fat snout in the public trough to suck up money you weren’t entitled to, nor would it include taking money from lobbyists to enact programs that enriched no one but yourself and the lobbyists.
Because if Jesus Christ was advocating that kind of behavior, well then, Murtha was just the bestest Christian that ever was. But if Jesus didn’t model that sort of thing, then Murtha obviously didn’t accept Christ as anything other than someone trying to harsh his mellow brand of larceny, libel and disgusting opportunism.
Janis, you ask a good question...
Cheetah772 (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 5:22PM EST (link)I don’t know about Murtha, but I’ve met a few born-again Christians who did lie to me for different reasons. There are plenty of born-again Christians who have committed adultery. In fact, I’ve met one born-again Christian who molested a child.
This is why Jesus admonishes us to be Christ-like in our way of life. Our flesh is crucified with Christ on the Cross, so we are to walk in the Spirit, producing good spiritual fruit.
There are two different words: the standing and the state of a Christian. The standing of a born-again Christian means he is assured a place in Heaven, no matter what he did on the Earth. The state of a born-again Christian means HOW he practices his faith on the Earth. Was he practicing good Christian testimony or not? So, if he did anything bad on the Earth, he will receive little or no rewards in Heaven, though his salvation in Christ is assured of.
Jesus did not encourage that kind of behavior. The liberty in Christ taken advantage of is frowned upon by God. Appropriate measures will be taken to correct this type of attitude. After all, salvation is not a license to sin exceedingly.
Maybe Murtha did reject Christ, then he will rot forever in Hell. But if he did accept Jesus as his personal Savior, then let Christ judge him at the Judgment Seat of Christ. Let Murtha receive his rewards (if any) in according to his works (which isn’t that much anyway) during on the Earth.
Look at two thieves who were crucified with Christ, one did not accept, while the other one did. That thief did not do anything good during his lifetime on the Earth, but at the moment of his death, he asked Christ for forgiveness and accepted Him as his personal Savior. To Jesus, that’s all matters the most.
The very first question Jesus will ask anybody who is alive or dead — have you accepted me as your Savior? Yes or no? Everything else is secondary to that question. So, if Murtha answered incorrectly, then well, he will suffer greatly in the Lake of Fire. On the other hand, if he answered correctly, then let him be judged by Jesus. No one escapes the judgment, no one.
Daniel 2:20 And he [God] changeth the times and seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding.
"No one escapes the judgment, no one."
mags Thursday, February 11th at 11:05AM EST (link)I believe God knows what perfect justice is for all of us. God and Murtha will have their own time together. For the rest of us, knowing that his being out of our lives because he is no longer a part of the political machine, should help motivate us to move forward and work to set things right in our country.
The laborers in the gospel who were paid a full days wages...
H (Diary) Thursday, February 11th at 12:32AM EST (link)even though they worked fewer hours than those who were selected by the master early, are a good representation of those who are saved at the time of death. C. S. Lewis talked about God having all of eternity to hear the split second repentance of a pilot going down in flames toward the ground. What awaits us in the next life is the most private and personal thing that exists – between us and our God. Once we’ve crossed over, it’s nobody business. And what was the Lord’s exclamation when his closest apostles bickered over the seeming unfairness of their foreseen individual fates when compared to each other? He said “And what is that to you?”
The disposition of Jack Murtha’s soul is none of our business.
As for “Once saved always saved,” I am working out my own salvation in the manner of St. Paul the apostle, to use his own words, “with fear and trembling.” That doesn’t sound like Paul believed in “Once saved always saved” to me.
And by what were those disciples in the parable n Matthew 25 saved or condemned? It was those who said “Lord Lord” who were told “I never knew you.” It was those who “did for the least of their brothers” who were saved.
The words “by faith alone” appear together only one time in the KJB. That would be in the Epistle of James (2:19), and they are preceded by the word “Not.” That’s not to say Grace and faith aren’t operative in salvation they certainly are. But it defies reason (and most Christian theologies) to believe that a youthful proclamation of faith would avert the eternal consequences for, say, the unrepented molestation and murder of a child later on in life. “Better that a millstone be tied to your neck” and all that.
St. Paul said that “Not all sins are deadly.” That would logically indicate that some actually are. I’m no theologian, but I’d hazard a guess that that’s where the “fear and trembling” comes in.
They say there is no such thing as an ex-Marine...
Vassar Bushmills (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 5:17PM EST (link)…but about Murtha, every Marine I’ve ever known, from four, no, five wars, say that Murtha was the exception that proves the rule.
I however do regret his passing…this way.
Semper F-U, as one jarhead told me. And rest in whatever level of Hades according to Dante best suits your choice of weather and social intercourse.
VB
Dante said the ninth level was reserved for traitors Vassar.
nessa (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 8:17PM EST (link)Some of the dwellers are Judas, Brutus and Cassius. Satan himself handles the torments in the ninth level. Kind of makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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well said Vassar -nt
Doc Holliday (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 10:02PM EST (link)nt
Molon Labe!
I agree w/Vassar...
jerseydevil Tuesday, February 9th at 5:47AM EST (link)you really have to go some to be “removed” from the rolls of the true elite! Jack Murtha’s name should be scrubbed from the ranks of THE FEW THE PROUD…his ashes scattered to the path where heroes trod and never again his name find form on the lips of those who “stand the wall”!
Chris
“The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either – but right through the human heart.”
Alexandr Solzhenitzyn
I highly
Wayne (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 5:27PM EST (link)doubt that Murtha will be guarding any of “heaven’s streets. Nor did he ever keep his honor clean. But, I subscribe to the adage that if you can’t say something nice, so I’ll stop now.
“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF
When he stood with the women of Code Pink....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 7:33PM EST (link)who in another time in our countries history would have hung for TREASON he then had made the final decision to sell this countries fighting men & women down the pike for his political benefit. His family has become rich beyond their wildest dreams off of the blood, sweat and tears of hardworking Americans. They set up companies that DID NOTHING and were rewarded handsomely. I shed no tears for this man. I would rather prefer that he had had quit Congress either way he is not ABUSING his position any longer.
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Here you go Jaded-
Scope (Diary) Tuesday, February 9th at 8:51PM EST (link)http://www.capveterans.com/anti_american_americans/id6.html
The Code Pink leader, Jodie Evans, has traveled to Afghanistan to meet with the Taliban. Jodie Evans is in support of the Iranian terrorists. On a Fox News interview, Jodie Evans admits to being a Communist. How many articles would you like me to link to to prove this. I can bring many.
I don't know Scope did I ask you for links?...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, February 9th at 10:17PM EST (link)“How many articles would you like me to link to to prove this. I can bring many.”
For some reason that particular sentence sounds like something one would say to someone who is arguing against something and I wasn’t and so your link is actually in agreement and if you wanted to help prove the point that Murtha was a POS you could certainly link hundreds I know I could. Very weird response to my particular comment.
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Karma can be a bitch.
Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 8:05PM EST (link)For example, this was not exactly commendable behavior.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Bob Beckel has an unintentionally hilarious paean to Murtha
Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 8:30PM EST (link)here on the Fox News website.
A few highlights follow, and he starts with a doozy.
Gosh, Bob, that isn’t my idea of what a representative is supposed to do. Where in the Constitution does it say, “Congressmen are supposed to expropriate as much wealth from other constituencies as they can get away with.”
Wow. Is that the best you can say about him? That he was a better thief than all the other thieves in Congress?
I suppose his family loved him, but it’s just a supposition. His family didn’t turn him in as Bernie Madoff’s sons did Bernie.
This is a man who should be quickly forgotten. The airport should NOT be renamed, however. It should carry the name “John Murtha” with it as it crumbles to dust. It should be a symbol for young Pennsylvanians to observe and ask, “Who was that Murtha guy?” The answer should be, “He was a shameful blot on the history of our state, a man for whom the pinnacle of greed was a goal to aspire to, a man who was unscrupulous in his dealings with our people and our government. He was a man who pandered to the most base instincts of the electorate to enable himself to feed at the public trough for far too long. In doing so, he let us demean ourselves as he demeaned our Constitution. That’s why this worthless airport has gone unfunded for lo these many years.”
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Flagstaff- Bob Beckel on Hannity
Scope (Diary) Tuesday, February 9th at 8:55PM EST (link)called Hannah Giles a “Ho.” Don’t know what Hannity’s response was, but, it doesn’t matter. He is still a regular on the Hannity’s show. So much goes for Hannity’s outrage at some other much smaller issues.
The Dems are all losing their good sense, if they ever had any.
Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, February 9th at 11:40PM EST (link)But “If Democrats had any brains, they’d be Republicans.”
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Beckel is an ignorant bloated no-class a-hole...
kyle8 (Diary) Friday, February 12th at 6:11AM EST (link)You would think that these people would be happy that they finally got into power, but they have gotten even nastier. It must be a miserable existence to be a progressive.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
It is a shame Murtha passed
Doc Holliday (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 9:56PM EST (link)It is also a shame he passed before giving the Marines and their families some relief by apologizing for his malicious lies. It is also a shame his constituents never did the honorable thing by removing him from office.
People are talking about who will run n PA12 and whom will we support. Of course life goes on but I am sitting that one out. I gave all I could last time around, PA12 is dead to me, no pun intended.
Molon Labe!
The real shame Doc is that he died before he
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 10:05PM EST (link)was indicted in the latest investigation.
I’d much rather he died in prison.
which is the latest Mbeck?
Doc Holliday (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 10:11PM EST (link)There were so many throughout his time in office. I will be honest, I actually feel sorry for him. I think he actually lost control of his own mind. To not be able to even admit that the Marines did not do it after they were exonerated is to slip into a realm of insanity. I am sure he died a very bitter man.
As a Christian, I can only feel sorry for the dead and his loved ones. But as I have mentioned, there are many things sad and painful about Murtha and they did not start today.
Molon Labe!
I haven't seen the details Doc
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 10:14PM EST (link)I’ve just seen a couple of general articles about him being investigated.
Frankly, in the world of the corrupt Murtha could give Dollar Bill Jefferson lessons.
so true Mbeck
Doc Holliday (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 10:17PM EST (link)I think I remember something about him strong arming some defense companies or something.
Molon Labe!
I'm a Viet Nam vet.
Viet71 (Diary) Tuesday, February 9th at 5:55PM EST (link)I have, therefore, some authority to speak as to Jack Murtha and John Kerry.
They were both opportunists and exploiters.
If you served in the Nam, you did your job, tried to survive a year, and get back. Your whole goal was to survive your tour.
Murtha and Kerry used Viet Nam as a platform.
I say, good riddance.
Im not sure who your speaking for but my brother-in-law was mostly in country from 66' to70' then
jayburd (Diary) Friday, February 12th at 6:00AM EST (link)then joined the Airforce and retired in 90′
One of my heroes- Ralph Smeed’s blog- http://smeedonstate-ism.com/index.htm
“What’s the matter? Don’t you want to win the war?” – Capt. John Birch
“If the Nation can issue a dollar bond it can issue a dollar bill.
The element that makes the bond good makes the bill good also. The
difference between the bond and the bill is that the bond lets the
money broker collect twice the amount of the bond and an additional 20%.Whereas the currency, the honest sort provided by the Constitution pays nobody but those who contribute in some useful way. It is absurd to say our Country can issue bonds and cannot issue currency. Both are promises to pay, but one fattens the usurer and the other helps the People.” – Thomas A. Edison
The concept of Murtha in heaven along with Ted Kennedy
Tbone (Diary) Monday, February 8th at 10:43PM EST (link)helps us comprehend the grace of God available to all of us.
OTH, the concept of Jack and Teddy in Hell let’s us enjoy the imperfection of our humanity.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Murtha had no honor. He will not be missed. nt
olsmithie (Diary) Tuesday, February 9th at 10:36PM EST (link)Will Murtha be buried in Arlington...
tankertodd (Diary) Tuesday, February 9th at 11:47PM EST (link)and will they find any Marines willing to be in his honor guard?
If they do bury him in Arlington, I would expect someone eventually to dig out the casket and set it in the Potomac where he belongs.
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The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race – Chief Justice Roberts
Where ever they bury him the
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 7:36AM EST (link)dishonor guard should be CodePink.
Murtha
spiff Wednesday, February 10th at 11:58AM EST (link)My comment on the article – Amen!
Spiff
There is an irony to the timing of his death.
Danielle Davis (ocleverone) (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 4:50PM EST (link)Murtha’s love of earmarks.
Requests for appropriations (read earmarks) are due to Congress around this time of the year. With his death, the Clerk of the House oversees the operations of his office in a caretaker/audit status until a new representative takes office. The Clerk, nor the office, during this time can push anything. In fact, the employess of the representatives office may only be there until the new Congress member takes office – employment is at the discretion of the new member.
Since Murtha’s replacement probably will not be there until May, the appropriations bill will be well underway and it isn’t certain whomever takes his place would even want those earmarks.
So his death just caused a major snafu with his earmarks possibly making them non-existent this year. Thus the irony. From excessive to nothing.
Energy needs to be focused on electing someone who will provide fiscal responsibility.
To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it. — Margaret Thatcher
Murtha is being buried in Johnstown PA
Scope (Diary) Thursday, February 11th at 10:43AM EST (link)thank you God, he will not be buried among hero’s in Arlington.