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		<title>By: sarge324</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2557</link>
		<dc:creator>sarge324</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he is a hate monger.he knows nothing but to stir up the left.its a shame he is a jouralist with no morals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he is a hate monger.he knows nothing but to stir up the left.its a shame he is a jouralist with no morals</p>
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		<title>By: astrolite</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2547</link>
		<dc:creator>astrolite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush did it---Bush did it----Bush did it-------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush did it&#8212;Bush did it&#8212;-Bush did it&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: yoyo</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2546</link>
		<dc:creator>yoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and by extension, who cares what he thinks?  Unless he is a 3 or 4 Star, currently on the ground, muddy boots and all, he should not second guess something that he knows nothing about.

[Although, I bet he would say the same thing about me... &quot;Who is Yoyo, and I don&#039;t care what he thinks.&quot;]  

However, I am not writing Opeds, either.  And I try to make sense when I speak.  And I served my country by volunteering to work on the greatest Acre-and-a-Half, Pointy-End-of-the-Spear workspace known to Modern Man.

If the General says, &quot;I need 40,000 more troops, or else.&quot; I say give them to him.  He sure knows better than I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and by extension, who cares what he thinks?  Unless he is a 3 or 4 Star, currently on the ground, muddy boots and all, he should not second guess something that he knows nothing about.</p>
<p>[Although, I bet he would say the same thing about me... "Who is Yoyo, and I don't care what he thinks."]  </p>
<p>However, I am not writing Opeds, either.  And I try to make sense when I speak.  And I served my country by volunteering to work on the greatest Acre-and-a-Half, Pointy-End-of-the-Spear workspace known to Modern Man.</p>
<p>If the General says, &#8220;I need 40,000 more troops, or else.&#8221; I say give them to him.  He sure knows better than I.</p>
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		<title>By: Adjoran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adjoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. . . aren&#039;t all public speeches by flag staff vetted by the White House as a matter of course?  Was the same procedure not followed in this case?

Of course it was.  And the answer the General gave to the question he was asked was, as stated in the original post, in support of Obama&#039;s official policy.

Does the radical left expect the General to anticipate Obama turning yellow and cutting and running from Afghanistan before Obama himself can bring himself to do what we all know he wants to do, all his contrary statements notwithstanding?

We&#039;ll be lucky if we can get this turkey out of office before he completely disarms the USA and destroys our economy while allowing every totalitarian rogue regime on the planet to go nuclear on his watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . aren&#8217;t all public speeches by flag staff vetted by the White House as a matter of course?  Was the same procedure not followed in this case?</p>
<p>Of course it was.  And the answer the General gave to the question he was asked was, as stated in the original post, in support of Obama&#8217;s official policy.</p>
<p>Does the radical left expect the General to anticipate Obama turning yellow and cutting and running from Afghanistan before Obama himself can bring himself to do what we all know he wants to do, all his contrary statements notwithstanding?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be lucky if we can get this turkey out of office before he completely disarms the USA and destroys our economy while allowing every totalitarian rogue regime on the planet to go nuclear on his watch.</p>
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		<title>By: throwback59</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2544</link>
		<dc:creator>throwback59</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generals would just &quot;shut up and salute.&quot; Oh, yes World War Two. The army wore field gray and the generals were very reluctant to tell the commander in chief that his policies were leading to defeat. We all know how well that worked out. Well, it worked out ok for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generals would just &#8220;shut up and salute.&#8221; Oh, yes World War Two. The army wore field gray and the generals were very reluctant to tell the commander in chief that his policies were leading to defeat. We all know how well that worked out. Well, it worked out ok for us.</p>
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		<title>By: rec0n</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2543</link>
		<dc:creator>rec0n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugene is a jackass and I didn&#039;t miss missing his article - but I laughed out loud at your first &#039;category&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugene is a jackass and I didn&#8217;t miss missing his article &#8211; but I laughed out loud at your first &#8216;category&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2542</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now since it looks like you have bid us adieu, I will reference a Chicago Broke-Times article of March 12, 2008, which pertains to this:

&quot;Obama lamented the early retirement of Admiral William Fallon, who has clashed with the Bush administration over its policies toward Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan.

&quot;I think it&#039;s a loss,&quot; Obama said. &quot;I think he provided a balanced view of the region. I&#039;m sorry to see him go, but I guess I&#039;m not surprised.&quot;

Obama said that while President Bush has said that he follows the advice of his generals regarding Iraq, when they give the president advice he doesn&#039;t like -- cautioning against the War in Iraq, for example -- Bush doesn&#039;t listen to them.

&quot;There were generals at the beginning of the conflict that said this is going to require many more troops, will cost us much more ... those generals were pushed aside,&quot; Obama said.&quot;

Mmmmm, mmmmmm, mmmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now since it looks like you have bid us adieu, I will reference a Chicago Broke-Times article of March 12, 2008, which pertains to this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama lamented the early retirement of Admiral William Fallon, who has clashed with the Bush administration over its policies toward Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s a loss,&#8221; Obama said. &#8220;I think he provided a balanced view of the region. I&#8217;m sorry to see him go, but I guess I&#8217;m not surprised.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama said that while President Bush has said that he follows the advice of his generals regarding Iraq, when they give the president advice he doesn&#8217;t like &#8212; cautioning against the War in Iraq, for example &#8212; Bush doesn&#8217;t listen to them.</p>
<p>&#8220;There were generals at the beginning of the conflict that said this is going to require many more troops, will cost us much more &#8230; those generals were pushed aside,&#8221; Obama said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mmmmm, mmmmmm, mmmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Streiff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2541</link>
		<dc:creator>Streiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1, This isn&#039;t about my position on the subject. It is about Robinson&#039;s mendacity and the alacrity with which he changes his view depending upon who is in the White House.

2. If you are interested in my views, I&#039;ve probably writted 30 stories on the subject of civil-military relations since 2003 and you&#039;ll see I&#039;ve been consistent.

3. The generals who disagreed with Bush were never subjected to the White House sending out attack Yorkies to the media.

4. The key words with Shinseki are &quot;out of his lane.&quot; His off the wall response, which has been discredited by the facts on the ground, was made in response to a question he was asked unrelated to his testimony. The CSA is not involved in war planning, per se, beyond providing trained and equipped forces to the combatant commander. The fact that Shinseki, who is now grossly mismanaging the VA, wanted to use that hearing to carry out a cheap vendetta against the SecDef who&#039;d essentially fired him  should be a badge of shame that he carries till his dying day.

4. Read the articles. McChrystal was defending Obama&#039;s March 27 Afghanistan strategy If the White House has a problem with that maybe they should start attaching a date-time stamp to their policies so everyone knows what the strategy is.

5. Bye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1, This isn&#8217;t about my position on the subject. It is about Robinson&#8217;s mendacity and the alacrity with which he changes his view depending upon who is in the White House.</p>
<p>2. If you are interested in my views, I&#8217;ve probably writted 30 stories on the subject of civil-military relations since 2003 and you&#8217;ll see I&#8217;ve been consistent.</p>
<p>3. The generals who disagreed with Bush were never subjected to the White House sending out attack Yorkies to the media.</p>
<p>4. The key words with Shinseki are &#8220;out of his lane.&#8221; His off the wall response, which has been discredited by the facts on the ground, was made in response to a question he was asked unrelated to his testimony. The CSA is not involved in war planning, per se, beyond providing trained and equipped forces to the combatant commander. The fact that Shinseki, who is now grossly mismanaging the VA, wanted to use that hearing to carry out a cheap vendetta against the SecDef who&#8217;d essentially fired him  should be a badge of shame that he carries till his dying day.</p>
<p>4. Read the articles. McChrystal was defending Obama&#8217;s March 27 Afghanistan strategy If the White House has a problem with that maybe they should start attaching a date-time stamp to their policies so everyone knows what the strategy is.</p>
<p>5. Bye.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2540</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need a link or some quotes. And FWIW, if that did happen I am sure George W. Bush listened, because he doesn&#039;t....searching for a term here....&quot;loathe&quot; the military like Obama and his lefty surrender wanks do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need a link or some quotes. And FWIW, if that did happen I am sure George W. Bush listened, because he doesn&#8217;t&#8230;.searching for a term here&#8230;.&#8221;loathe&#8221; the military like Obama and his lefty surrender wanks do.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2539</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your knowledge of history is small.  There is a long history of the military trying to influence policies in this roundabout way. 

It would go too far if he were insubordinate or trying to rally political opposition to Obama, But he has done neither.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your knowledge of history is small.  There is a long history of the military trying to influence policies in this roundabout way. </p>
<p>It would go too far if he were insubordinate or trying to rally political opposition to Obama, But he has done neither.</p>
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		<title>By: hickorystick</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>hickorystick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commander of NATO troops in Afghanistan.  This  gives him the right to speak about strategy because Afghanistan has been turned over by President Bush to NATO.  Pres. and Citizen of the World Barack is only a bit player  in this war.  He is no bigger or better than the President of Bolivia.  If you keep speaking Eugene I will begin to think you are an Imperialist aggressor wanting to continue the failed policies of the past.  
P.S. your want him to stuff a sock in his mouth; why? so you can pour water over his head? enhanced interrogation techniques, NeoCon world view? what, do you wan&#039;t the President to fail too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commander of NATO troops in Afghanistan.  This  gives him the right to speak about strategy because Afghanistan has been turned over by President Bush to NATO.  Pres. and Citizen of the World Barack is only a bit player  in this war.  He is no bigger or better than the President of Bolivia.  If you keep speaking Eugene I will begin to think you are an Imperialist aggressor wanting to continue the failed policies of the past.<br />
P.S. your want him to stuff a sock in his mouth; why? so you can pour water over his head? enhanced interrogation techniques, NeoCon world view? what, do you wan&#8217;t the President to fail too?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McChrystal hasn&#039;t been trying to criticize in a bad way but to show him what we can do. Bush always seem to understand those that criticize him did in a corrective way. O has done nothing but blow them off. I think you might want to look at it again, Troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McChrystal hasn&#8217;t been trying to criticize in a bad way but to show him what we can do. Bush always seem to understand those that criticize him did in a corrective way. O has done nothing but blow them off. I think you might want to look at it again, Troll.</p>
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		<title>By: cpe1704tks1</title>
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		<dc:creator>cpe1704tks1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The military is a chain-of-command organization. Lower ranking soldiers can gripe and complain and second guess all they want in private, but they are not to criticize their commanders. The Generals who did so under Bush were wrong to do so, as is McChrystal. 

And for the record, Robinson has been right down the center on this. Just check his statements. You can put any spin on them you want, but the facts are the facts. The key word in the Shinseki criticism is &quot;testimony&quot; as he was before a Congressional panel at the time, unlike McChrytstal who was trying to make policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The military is a chain-of-command organization. Lower ranking soldiers can gripe and complain and second guess all they want in private, but they are not to criticize their commanders. The Generals who did so under Bush were wrong to do so, as is McChrystal. </p>
<p>And for the record, Robinson has been right down the center on this. Just check his statements. You can put any spin on them you want, but the facts are the facts. The key word in the Shinseki criticism is &#8220;testimony&#8221; as he was before a Congressional panel at the time, unlike McChrytstal who was trying to make policy.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2535</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that sounds like a dangerous mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that sounds like a dangerous mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Spartan4Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartan4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprised by the lack of noise on such an important issue. I would think they would be wholeheartedly screaming for withdrawal. Where are the protests? Where is the outrage?

I think this is Obama between a rock and a hard place. Is there any doubt that their hearts(and Obama&#039;s) are on the side of pulling out? What they are having to ask themselves is whether they want to saddle Obama with another defeat, especially given his, er, track record so far. If they do the right thing and give the generals the resources they need it will definitely leave less resources for green jobs(hahahahahaha) and the like.

I think Obama is struggling for three reasons. The cupboard is already bare. The world is alot more complicated than he counted on. We will not sit idly by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprised by the lack of noise on such an important issue. I would think they would be wholeheartedly screaming for withdrawal. Where are the protests? Where is the outrage?</p>
<p>I think this is Obama between a rock and a hard place. Is there any doubt that their hearts(and Obama&#8217;s) are on the side of pulling out? What they are having to ask themselves is whether they want to saddle Obama with another defeat, especially given his, er, track record so far. If they do the right thing and give the generals the resources they need it will definitely leave less resources for green jobs(hahahahahaha) and the like.</p>
<p>I think Obama is struggling for three reasons. The cupboard is already bare. The world is alot more complicated than he counted on. We will not sit idly by.</p>
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		<title>By: illinois</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2533</link>
		<dc:creator>illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the same old liberal line:  any dissent w/ Obama&#039;s policies is dismissed as racist so we should all shutup and sing along with the Obama propaganda children&#039;s songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the same old liberal line:  any dissent w/ Obama&#8217;s policies is dismissed as racist so we should all shutup and sing along with the Obama propaganda children&#8217;s songs.</p>
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		<title>By: anotherindyfilmguy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/10/06/eugene-robinsons-dishonest-attack-on-general-mcchrystal/#comment-2532</link>
		<dc:creator>anotherindyfilmguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in Afghanistan is a boost for everyone who hates the US. The only real problem the O is facing is how to deflect blame while bringing about defeat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in Afghanistan is a boost for everyone who hates the US. The only real problem the O is facing is how to deflect blame while bringing about defeat&#8230;</p>
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